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    Default Best Laptop Ever: 12" G4 PowerBook or the 13" MacBook Pro

    A friend and I were having this nerd-debate earlier today. He thinks that the 12" G4 PowerBook is superior to the 13" MacBook Pro. I think that while the 12" PowerBook was a great laptop and still beats almost every non-Apple laptop, the 13" MacBook Pro is a classier machine in general.

    What do you guys think?

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    12" Powerbook, dimensions are so much better aesthetically.

    Perfect keyboard, better than the chiklets imo, a bit thick but a very nicely formed machine. It is so much smaller (like you need to handle both to appreciate) to put in a bag as well.

    Obviously for using, the intel and wide screen are a godsend, but to look at I can't go past the 12".

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    G4 for sure.

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    I have both.

    And the 12 inch G4 PowerBook wins hands down.

    At the time it was released, it ticked so many boxes. It was the ultimate portable notebook by a huge margin.

    The 13 inch MBP is a great machine, but didn't really push the boundaries too much.

    For the almost identical weight, the 12 inch PB G4 carries much better in the hand.
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    13" MBP for sure, I love it.
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    PowerBook G4'. Never had such power come from such a little machine. This was 2004 remember and this formfactor was never really adopted by Wintel PCs.

    Still would love a unibody MBP 12" at a very nice screen resolution- now that would be a sweet portable.
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    The thing is, as many of you have already somewhat hinted - it's all relative.

    The 12" PowerBook was a STUPENDOUS machine for it's time.

    The 13" MacBook Pro is also a STUPENDOUS machine at the moment.

    Unfortunately, the measure of stupendous has to go to the 12". I know Apple geeks who would still covet one today, as Intel-less as they are.

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    12" despite it's low resolution and hardware problems wins everytime.
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    12" for sure, seemed so much smaller and cooler (typed on a 13" macbook pro)

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    I have a 12" G4 Powerbook 1.33GHz, 13" Macbook 1.83GHz Core Duo and the wife has a 13" Macbook Pro 2.26GHz.

    I can honestly say that the 12" is (1) followed by the MBP and then the Macbook.
    It is amazing just how much smaller in footprint the Powerbook is compared to the Macbook. As others have indicated, the 12" is much thicker than the newer Macbooks, but it is footprint that most concerns me.

    I find the 12" is easier to carry around and still looks hot 6 years on.

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    Whilst an older model now, the 12" PB also performs the same or better than the slew of netbooks released today. Similar footprint, amazing quality, perfect keyboard - and a built-in optical drive tops it off.

    Going back, the Powerbook 2400c is another good'un - considerably older, but same footprint as the 12" PB, and with a slew of connectivity options and upgrades that put comparable notebooks of the day to shame.

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    I've owned both.

    My SO says the MBP, then the 12", just.
    I say the MBP, then the 12", just.

    It's a very close call. The footprint is better on the 12", but the MBP is lighter, and a hell of a lot less flexy. Love the unibody.
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    That raises a good point; how does a 12" Powerbook compare (size, performance, current price/value) to a modern netbook?

    Any proper comparisons done?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogus Jimmy View Post
    That raises a good point; how does a 12" Powerbook compare (size, performance, current price/value) to a modern netbook?

    Any proper comparisons done?
    Based on me previously owning a 12" PB (1.5ghz) and currently owning a netbook (eeepc 10", 1.6ghz atom) I'd say a 12" running Tiger offers the better performance with the same or comparable portability...today....despite it being 5 years older and running on a G4.

    The perfect Apple "netbook" would be a 12" PB with intel guts and modern screen...no doubt that would make it thinner as well but the 12" G4 is more than portable as-is.
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    Contradicting what I posted before - the 12" (let's say the 1.5Ghz model) provides comparable raw performance to a 1.6Ghz Intel Atom notebook, but the lack of optimisation with PPC apps, and the crappy PPC implementation of Flash bogs it down for net use.

    My MSI Wind U100 network outperforms my 1.5Ghz G4 Cube in everything - especially for web browsing, except for graphics performance which isn't stellar (GMA950 vs. Geforce 6200).

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    PowerBook G4 12" is the second best laptop computer of all time, ever, by any company. In third place is the black MacBook 13", with the aluminium-body MacBook 13 and current MBP 13 just behind it in fourth.

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    As a machine, I preferred the 12 inch PB 867 I had for 5 years. I've only had my 13 MBP since release, so what 9 months - maybe a little early to make the call?

    The only other thing I'd mention is that I paid $4000 (yep) for the 12 inch, and $1600 odd for the 13 inch. Even with currency change etc, I prefer what I paid for the MBP.

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    Neither of the two is the best laptop, their screens are just to… small. Between them I much prefer the 13" MBP. The 12" G4 was cool in its day but is a clunky brick in comparison. Not to mention its horrible ultra low-res screen. I gave mine to my mother-in-law...


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    I still use my 1.5Ghz 12" G4 PowerBook including for SD video editing and have always loved it. It was way too expensive and the screen is pretty low-res by today's standards, but I'm reluctant to let go of the PB because I just love it so much!
    But have any other PB owners experienced the heat-related body warp?

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