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    Hi all,
    Im looking for a cocoa developer to help out with a small project.
    Ive got most of the code ready but i need a few things changed which i don know how to do.
    Let me know if you think you might be able to help

    Thanks

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    Originally posted by iSlayer@Aug 22 2005, 04:56 PM
    Im looking for a cocoa developer to help out with a small project.
    What's Cocoa?

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    There is a member here called either 'edeards' or 'drinahn'.... he knows a fair bit of cocca...

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    Originally posted by hawker@Aug 22 2005, 05:50 PM
    What's Cocoa?
    OS X native programming.

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    Originally posted by marc@Aug 22 2005, 05:23 PM
    OS X native programming.
    Ah. Hmm, why don't they just call it "OS X developer" :P

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    =), Cocoa is a set of kind of tools that apple gives developers to help them supercharge their apps. Examples of this are the venerable font chooser and color picker that are in so many good OSX apps. Most of these applications have been written using Cocoa.

    The method OS X developers can use to create apps is called "Carbon" but this is usually used to convert applications from OS 9. Its clunky and procedural and does not take advantage of all of Cocoa's coolness.

    iSlayer is looking for a programmer that is familier with Cocoa, because the project must be pretty snazzy and modern.

    I am not a Cocoa programmer, but I am learning.

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    Originally posted by hawker@Aug 22 2005, 05:54 PM
    Ah. Hmm, why don't they just call it "OS X developer" :P
    I guess one could also ask why they call C, Java, Python, Perl, Pascal, Haskell, etc the names they do.

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    Isint Cocoa Apple's API for objective C ?

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    Something like that.

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    You can use Cocoa with Java, too.

    iSlayer, you'll probably get a better response if you can outline what field (at least) it's related to (Cocoa developers tend to specialise a whole lot).

    Another thing to try is macpeopledownunder.net (possibly .com), where you can post job offers for Mac developers.

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    It's in relation to a widget we're developing. He just needs a tiny bit of advice as he's already nailed most of it

    Hopefully we'll be able to show you all what it's about in a week or so.

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    I figured it would be widget-based.

    But I was more referring to the field it would require (Firewire/webcam, USB interfacing, document processing, image manipulation, etc.), since people tend to specialise somewhat in the field that they most heavily associate with (if I was learning Cocoa, I'd be planning to learn rich text processing and file I/O, since that's an application I have that requires developing, and I could then help people in that field better.

    If he's only got a small query, I'd advise him to have a good look on Apple's developer site in the example code for the application he's developing. It's got pretty much everything you could ever expect to need from a program.


    Sorry if I come off like a know-all; I am, in fact, a know-nothing, but I'm learning (slowly) :P.

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    Yeah. I am learning (slowly) too. I'm getting good with C before I graduate to Objective-C Cocoa.

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    I know C/C++, but I've found Objective-C is quite difficult to move to... It has very unusual syntax.
    I also know PHP, VB (6 & .NET), Java, and Unix scripting, and none of them has made Objective-C that much easier. I know all the theory, but getting the syntax is proving difficult. Maybe if I quit my crappy job and spend a few weeks on it...

    Actually, I've found coding on the mac is kinda difficult... Does anyone run an instructor-led course or something? Once I can make basic apps in a language I have no problems doing other stuff.
    And these Objective C books don't help all that much when they were written for OS 10.3
    ...because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

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    Which books are you using dangelovich? I've been looking around for some books but there are a fair few out there. Which ones are good and which ones are just plain crap in your experience?

    Nobody seems to have any in stock to look through in the places I've been to so I'll probably have to order in (or use amazon) to get my hands on something site unseen :S
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    thanks for all the responses.
    I have a developer working on the project for me and its going fantastically.

    thanks for all the offers here and via pm's and emails

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    Apparently, Programming in Objective-C by Stephen Kochan
    is pretty fantastic. I bought a copy off eBay but it hasn't come yet.

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    I've got the Learning Objective-C book from O'Reilly... it needs an update though - everything is for Project Builder... I think that's what it's called... Whatever was before Xcode anyway.
    I'll have to have a look at that Stephan Kochan book.
    ...because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

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    Project Builder was Jaguar and earlier.

    I find learning things online is significantly simpler than outdated books, and for that I've amassed a little Cocoa reference section in Safari (mostly 100% basic):

    http://maczealots.com/articles/development
    http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?HowToProgramInOSX
    http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/ct/37
    http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/HTMLEditorX/index.html


    They've pretty much all got further reading too. CocoaDev is great. I'm with dangelovich though, I need simple examples to get my head around the new syntax so I can start doing things my own way. Which is why those pages are good. So are Apple's sample programs that fill the Developer folder with stuff .

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    Originally posted by kit@Aug 22 2005, 06:21 PM
    You can use Cocoa with Java, too.
    is that mocha?
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