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    Default My brother is going to get the new Iphone 3GS ... should he add it under my Itunes ac

    Hi guys.

    Please help a couple of confused brothers.

    I have an Iphone 3G which is attached to my Itunes account

    My brother is going to get the Iphone 3GS.

    When he plugs it into his computer ... can he add it under my account?

    Or does he have to make a new account?

    If he can add it under my account, then we will be able to share Apps or no?

    We care about sharing GAMES :-)

    Is this possible? And is there any Pros/Cons of 2 accounts versus 1 account if this is possible??

    Please let me know. We are very confused!!!

    ALSO, WE HAVE PERSONAL COMPUTERS (PCs) ... NO MACS. (does this make a difference?)

    THANKS SO MUCH GUYS AND GIRLS!!

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    The con would be that you would both share the same contacts, emails and music, if you choose to sync those.
    Otherwise, I can't see any other cons to it.
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    Hi - No Cons at all - don't have to share same emails and contacts - just setup two groups in your address book - one for your brother and one for you - then just syc only that group - - you can both choose completly diferent setups for your phones - sync whatever differently from itunes - it's treats them as seperate ipods/phones etc...i do the same for my wife and i - best part is you only pay once for each app..

    Have fun

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    Or use Google Sync to sync contacts and calendars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BowieNIN View Post
    Hi - No Cons at all - don't have to share same emails and contacts - just setup two groups in your address book - one for your brother and one for you - then just syc only that group - - you can both choose completly diferent setups for your phones - sync whatever differently from itunes - it's treats them as seperate ipods/phones etc...i do the same for my wife and i - best part is you only pay once for each app..

    Have fun
    2 groups in address books? d'u mean the address book in Ms Outlook?
    and when u say "completely different setups for you phones", is it the setup in iTunes or in the iPhones?

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    Can I ask why you dont just get 2 iTunes accounts, how many $ in games have you got?.

    I dont think the 5 devices is really intended for different people but rather different devices for the same the person

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    If we use two separate accounts then don't u need to copy things manually ?? And then the apps can't automatically update or something??

    Also I have a question

    I don't knwo iTunes that well. If we share one account and we both are at college away from each other ... Then does iTunes tie apps to the account or to one computer ... Like will we be able to share over the Internet . Will one of us just have to redownload the app that the other brother bought ?? Or is it even just updated automatically on both computers???

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    Let me see if I can explain this.

    You have two seperate computers and two seperate iPhones, they will act entirely independantly and sync with each computer, so there is no issues with sharing contacts or anything else.

    If you both log into the same account all costs will come out of that one account, be it iTunes cards to off a credit card. You just need to authorise both computers to use that account (so you will be using 2 of the 5 activations). It seems you only authorise computers, not devices, so you can each hook up your iPhone along with your 12 other iPods without issues :P

    Anything one person buys will ONLY be downloaded to that ONE computer, but if the second person tries to buy the same item it will be downloaded for free (since the account already owns it). At least for games, not sure for movies and music.
    In short there is no auto sync that makes both machines download everything.

    What you should do is agree than anything you individually purchase you either email to each other or put aside in a folder to give the other person when you meet up (or mail a USB stick to each other once a month).

    It will work, but then I don't know that it's the way it is supposed to work.
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    Thank you everyone for your help.

    To the poster above me:

    If we share one account... w/ one computer at my house and one computer at his house... do we still need to "e-mail, USB" files

    ... or can it be like this:

    1.) I login to my iTunes account on computer
    2.) I buy "Game1" and download to my computer
    3.) I sync the game to my iPhone
    4.) Brother logs into my same iTunes account but 100 miles away on his computer
    5.) Brother searches for "Game1"
    6.) Brother tries to download "Game1" (I assume it will say "You already own this would you want to re-download it again for free")
    7.) Brother downloads Game1 for free to his computer 100 miles away (but same iTunes account as me)
    8.) Brother syncs the game to his iPhone
    9.) Both brothers have Game1?

    (Everything done w/o a USB / e-mail)

    Or are my steps not possible???

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    I am not going to touch the legalities of this....but....

    I have 2 iPhones and 2 computers. The same iTunes account is used for both computers. The iPhones have different contacts since they sync to different computers & settings are way different. Anyway, I download applications on one computer, my main computer, then drag them across my network or use a portable harddrive to update the apps on the other computer roughly once per month. Do not just drag the applications into the same folder as the applications already on that computer. Instead, I import the applications via iTunes. I do this for applications that are not 'important' and have to be on the other iPhone immediately. If you were to drag them to the folder then you can end up with duplicates.
    If I want an iPhone app on the second iPhone but don't want to transfer them all manually then I just search for the app in iTunes on that computer and, like you were asking, it allows you to download it again for free.
    Application updates also work from both computers.

    PM me if you need more info than that.

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    Wouldn't this be conspiracy to commit fraud/theft?
    If you both want an app, then you should both pay for it. It's the right thing to do. Just because there's a loophole, doesn't mean that it isn't illegal or unethical. Paying for it ensures that more apps are made.

    I would highly suggest that you both get separate iTunes accounts and do the right thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by help1 View Post
    Thank you everyone for your help.

    To the poster above me:

    If we share one account... w/ one computer at my house and one computer at his house... do we still need to "e-mail, USB" files

    ... or can it be like this:

    1.) I login to my iTunes account on computer
    2.) I buy "Game1" and download to my computer
    3.) I sync the game to my iPhone
    4.) Brother logs into my same iTunes account but 100 miles away on his computer
    5.) Brother searches for "Game1"
    6.) Brother tries to download "Game1" (I assume it will say "You already own this would you want to re-download it again for free")
    7.) Brother downloads Game1 for free to his computer 100 miles away (but same iTunes account as me)
    8.) Brother syncs the game to his iPhone
    9.) Both brothers have Game1?

    (Everything done w/o a USB / e-mail)

    Or are my steps not possible???

    Legalities aside, yes you can currently do exactly that, unless of course apple change the way things work. Remember there was talk of them charging for redownloading from the handset....
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    Quote Originally Posted by macrich View Post
    Wouldn't this be conspiracy to commit fraud/theft?
    If you both want an app, then you should both pay for it. It's the right thing to do.
    What if you own both the phones? Would you want to pay for an application twice?

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    I guess that would depend on whether you were using both handsets. If they were both yours and you alone used them both, then no, you shouldn't have to pay for the same app twice.

    What I'm talking about is if you and a friend, partner, brother, stranger decided you both wanted an app, then you should both pay for the app.

    My fear is that if people do abuse the system, then Apple will clamp down on it, and it will become a nightmare for the rest of us who do the honest and right thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macrich View Post
    I guess that would depend on whether you were using both handsets. If they were both yours and you alone used them both, then no, you shouldn't have to pay for the same app twice.

    What I'm talking about is if you and a friend, partner, brother, stranger decided you both wanted an app, then you should both pay for the app.

    My fear is that if people do abuse the system, then Apple will clamp down on it, and it will become a nightmare for the rest of us who do the honest and right thing.
    You make a good point. I will now go out any re-purchase any CDs that I have ripped to iTunes, that my wife also listens to on her iPhone. Thanks for making things clearer for me! Will iTunes let me rip the same CDs twice?
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    Obviously if you want to be sarcastic about it, yes, legally you commit infringement of copyright if you copy music and give it away to other people. The same goes for DVD's. Why do you think that they put in copyright protection on DVD's? For fun? They even tried it with CD's at one stage (didn't go too well for Sony).
    There's nothing stopping you from listening to a CD, LP, Tape, or watching a DVD, Video, 8mm at home with friends.

    You of course can't charge any of them for coming over to see or listen, but that's the way the law is written. We're not talking about music here though, we're talking about Apps, more importantly we're talking about finding a way of getting an App for free for two Phones miles apart from each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by help1 View Post
    When he plugs it into his computer ... can he add it under my account?
    yes.

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    I believe that fair use would extend to my wife and I, both whom live in the same house (funnily enough) both installing the same apps and using the same music/movies from the one iTunes account on our respective iPhones (and Apple TV for that matter).

    I don't think they would be nearly as happy for brothers to be sharing apps the way the OP is asking. So while technically possible, it's not exactly kosher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macrich View Post
    Obviously if you want to be sarcastic about it, yes, legally you commit infringement of copyright if you copy music and give it away to other people. The same goes for DVD's. Why do you think that they put in copyright protection on DVD's? For fun? They even tried it with CD's at one stage (didn't go too well for Sony).
    There's nothing stopping you from listening to a CD, LP, Tape, or watching a DVD, Video, 8mm at home with friends.

    You of course can't charge any of them for coming over to see or listen, but that's the way the law is written. We're not talking about music here though, we're talking about Apps, more importantly we're talking about finding a way of getting an App for free for two Phones miles apart from each other.
    So.. my wife lives with me *gasp*, we use the same PC, and we use the same installation of iTunes. In a week, we will have two iPhones (her 3G, my 3G S). What do I do? You know, morally.
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