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    Default OSX Accounting software

    OK....Im frustrated!!!

    Whats the best simple accounting software for currently available for mac?

    Let me say straight away that I HATE MYOB in all its forms. Ive used it due to lack of anything else but its interface sucks as does the support. Its clunky and so totally un mac I cant believe it. It actually makes any Microsoft product look classy.

    Moneyworks seems like a MYOB rip off and Quicken is still in the dark ages back in USA with no Oz support as well.

    SO what to do????????
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    Depends what you need it for?

    I'm stuck with MYOB on peecees at work as it's pretty much the standard.

    Liquid Ledger looks pretty Mac-native although I haven't tried it.
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    iBank (banking) or iBiz (business)
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    Numbers or Excel.

    Seriously.

    I hate all accounting software I've used. I'd much rather have a simple spreadsheet. Bjango is run from Numbers. I'm sure bigger businesses need something more integrated and individuals who have studied accounting might be able to make better use of more specialised software though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tazgtz View Post
    iBank (banking) or iBiz (business)
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    Downloaded iBank and had a quick look. Kind of messy UI but definately OSX savvy. I need to investigate how the account list could be setup..plus the suitability for the ausst. market...GST BAS etc.

    I am only a small business...freelance and I employ my wife on occasions if I earn anything substantial....that sort of thing.

    Thanks for the suggestion.:laugh:
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc View Post
    Numbers or Excel.

    Seriously.

    I hate all accounting software I've used. I'd much rather have a simple spreadsheet. Bjango is run from Numbers. I'm sure bigger businesses need something more integrated and individuals who have studied accounting might be able to make better use of more specialised software though.
    I use/have numbers but hate spreadsheets and the configeration issue...will check out Bjango.

    From what I can see there is a huge gap in the market for someone to write a simple, beautiful OSX UI accounts package that slips seamlessly into iCal and address book etc.
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    Perhaps a look at Bento would be useful?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silversurf2002 View Post
    will check out Bjango.
    Sorry, I think wasn't clear enough! Bjango is my company. We use Numbers for all bookkeeping.

    What are you after specifically? Just a way to track expenses etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc View Post
    Sorry, I think wasn't clear enough! Bjango is my company. We use Numbers for all bookkeeping.

    What are you after specifically? Just a way to track expenses etc?
    Oh...not simple bookkeeping, more a basic account package to give to our accountant. I guess something about the scale of MYOB FirstEdge.

    Thats weird re Banjo...I found it and saw your apps and bookmarked Jobs to buy...it looks good, but couldnt find Banjo as an account package...ha...now I know why.

    Ive looked at everything now and just may have to stick with FirstEdge...like I said, I couldnt be bothered building something with Numbers.

    I have so far reviewed iBank, Liquid Ledger, Quicken 2007, Moneyworks Express, Moneydance and MYOB. Dont like any of them for one reason or another.

    PS Why dont you write an account package?...you seem to have the right style. I mean MYOB have NO idea about adapting the OSX UI at all!! If you look at something like Contactizer Pro you can see how it should be done. Function and style combined..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutze View Post
    Perhaps a look at Bento would be useful?
    That would mean I have to build the program, like Numbers. I cant get my head around that at all....besides, theres something about Filemaker I dont like, even tho I cant say what.

    Is there something already out there as a Bento template anyhow?
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    Yes there are no good Accounting packages at all on the Mac.

    Marc I think if you could get together with some good accountants ready to step in and help you create a Accounting package you could do a damn good job and make lot's of $$$ on the way.

    I was trying to do this about 3 yrs ago with some programmer friends but had no luck with them. My mother is a accountant and she brought to my attention first how bad even accounting software is on he PC as well. Probably one of the best easy to use and packages which is on the PC is Cashflow. The only real problem with this is it is not a good package for a business which requires smarts like stock control.

    I do not like Quicken but Quicken (on PC) it is a lot better then MYOB what is a evolution of MS access to me lol. I think actually if anyone could make a serious accounting package they could use Filemaker as a good bases. This would give you Windows and Mac support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silversurf2002 View Post
    That would mean I have to build the program, like Numbers. I cant get my head around that at all....besides, theres something about Filemaker I dont like, even tho I cant say what.

    Is there something already out there as a Bento template anyhow?
    Bento2 has templates for:

    Time billing
    Event planning
    Inventory
    Contacts
    Expenses

    There are other, user made, templates available.
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    I am a qualified accountant and looked into what software could run on my MAC at home and as mentioned earlier there was only MYOB/First Edge that offered a true double entry accounting system. It also allowed small accounting firms to receive information to complete tax returns for clients. I believe there is a gap and no real competitor to MYOB.

    When looking into what was available I even tried GNU Cash running Linux on my MAC via emulation. It worked but I really wanted to have something to run natively.

    If there was a real alternative I believe you would have a reasonable market.

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    Yep, I run a small business and unfortunately for me, MYOB first edge is really the only accounting package that fits the bill. It really is a slut of a program and sitting down to do my books every night is a horrible way to finish my working day. I hate it.
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    Accounting is one of my pet hates for the Mac. Our company wanted to change to a Mac accounting system and there was just nothing that cut it (we needed multi-user also). As much as I hate it, we ended up going with MYOB Enterprise running via terminal services on a PC Server.

    The other issue is accountant compatibility. Even though I used AccountEdge personally, I had major issues getting the files readable by my accountant and had similar issues getting them back onto the Mac. It would be even more of an issue with a non-popular program.

    Having said al that, if you want a really nice, OSX feeling small accounts package look up Accounts. It's nice, simple and clean but I'm a bit concerned it hasn't been updated since Dec 2007.

    If you want something a bit more advanced and up to date, try Luca. I haven't looked at Luca for a while and just looking again it looks great - it can be used single or multi user and is backed by either MySQL, PostrgeSQL or SQLite. Don't let this worry you if you're not a db expert. It 'just works' with SQLite but the option to move to an industrial strength db is compelling. The web site hints at it being free but I'm not sure.

    Luca really looks the goods.

    Personally I'd love to see something like this take off. It probably won't have the GST bells and whistles but that's not to say they can't be requested or added later. Given the accessibility of the DB backend, it's probably quite feasible to write a GST reporting backed directly from the data.

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    Would you consider a Software as a Service offering? I have not tried it, but have heard good things about Saasu.com | easy online accounting
    They are Sydney based too.
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    Does it really matter how good your accounting software looks? As long as it works and does what you need it to do. MYOB AccountingEdge is definitely not the worst OS X UI ever, and it is an incredbily solid program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdude View Post
    Does it really matter how good your accounting software looks? As long as it works and does what you need it to do. MYOB AccountingEdge is definitely not the worst OS X UI ever, and it is an incredbily solid program.
    It's not only the looks - MYOB as a company sucks rocks - their 'customer service' is laughable and the products overpriced. They also have that ridiculous registration system where I have to keep validating my company file - and half the time the validation fails over the web. The Mac version is a poor cousin at best.

    Not since Quark circa 2000 have I seen such arrogance in a company. Sadly, they're essentially a monopoly for Aussie Mac accounting software so there's not a lot of choice.
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    As a small company, we recently purchased MYOB AccountEdge. At $500 it seemed a great little product at a reasonable price...BUT, prospective buyers beware, all is not what it seems...

    When it comes to tax table update time, you can't load your own tax tables, and you are then forced to buy their "annual support" at exorbitant costs to get these tax tables. In reality this is simply some data they load into their product with minimal time and effort but the result of this is they milk their customers for $450, nearly the cost of a new package. Of course, for this price you get telephone support (what if you don't want this?), reduced price training (what if you're already trained?) and discounts on a whole lot of things you probably don't want or need, or that make MYOB more money anyway. Whilst other packages out their bill 17-20% for software updates, MYOB are ripping off their customers who are generally locked into the product and the lack of manual upload prevents the customers using alternatives.

    For anyone looking at any of the MYOB products, I heartily suggest you steer clear and look at alternatives.
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