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    Default Logic Studio Production Questions

    Hi all, now with the new iMac updates i'm able to finally purchase my first Apple computer.

    I've been doing some research during the wait and i thought where better to find information about Logic Studio than from a Mac source.


    So my questions are:

    1. I want to be able to create music from scratch and the target genre is Techno/Trance/House. I have had other software where you would piece bits of sound together, which i hear is also in Logic Studio. Will Logic studio be able to create music from scratch effectively?
    2. Are there add ons for Logic to put in more sound pieces?
    3. Would Logic Studio or Logic Express be better suited?
    4. Any other software that would be equal or better in creating music to look at?


    Much appreciated if anyone who uses Logic could answer my questions.
    Cheers.

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    I use it, the "foundations" are trance/techno I guess with what I write.. and yes.

    1. YES
    2. YES
    3. Logic Studio has better value IMHO
    4. The way I currently got it set up is that Logic Studio + Ableton Live 6 rewiring each other (Logic as the host). Laptop the same, but primarily I use Live 6 live for gigs.

    Would love to talk more about this privately if you need pointers/help. Always awesome to see more mac musicians in here especially!

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    hey,
    by scratch im asuming you mean serrato scratch live ,yes?
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    Solois: what mechcon said, times 100. Logic Studio is IT. It is more intuitive and flexible than Cubase/Nuendo, faster than Fruity, and is making Digidesign Pro Tools lovers switch over in droves. And the value-for-money in the full Logic Studio is unparalleled. Not only do you get a huge sample library, the provided softsynths, samplers and effects are all top notch, and there are plenty of quality AudioUnits and VSTs available that work well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brains View Post
    Solois: what mechcon said, times 100. Logic Studio is IT. It is more intuitive and flexible than Cubase/Nuendo, faster than Fruity, and is making Digidesign Pro Tools lovers switch over in droves. And the value-for-money in the full Logic Studio is unparalleled. Not only do you get a huge sample library, the provided softsynths, samplers and effects are all top notch, and there are plenty of quality AudioUnits and VSTs available that work well.
    +1

    You can't beat Logic Studio in terms of value for money. It comes with just about everything you need to get started in your genre & Midi handling in Logic is still by far the best around.

    Plenty of add-ons available once you're bored with the included stuff.

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    Another +1 for Logic Studio.

    1. Logic is what all the big and small names are using for the best house production. Anyone who uses anything else for production seems to end up on a Mac using Logic at some point, no matter where they started, because it is the best and most powerful way to create and compose electronic music. If by "from scratch" you mean using in build synths and samplers/samples, then absolutely.

    2. You can easily add samples. You can easily add purchased and free softsynths and other effects plugins. These can only be in Audio Unit format, not VST (unless you use FXpansion's wrapper).

    3. Logic Studio is stupidly cheap now. Definitely go all the way if you can afford it. It comes with 40gb+ of samples!

    4. Better is subjective. Ableton Live is probably quicker for knocking out ideas, but the sound quality of Ableton's mix engine is no where near as good as Logic's, and Logic's in built effects are hard to beat. ProTools has a mix engine and automation that's as good, if not slightly better than Logic, but it's next to useless for MIDI and composing/producing/arranging. And the other apps on the market suck

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    Thanks for the input guys !! Will be going down the Logic Studio road.

    Cheers again.

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    Awesome, good luck with it Solois!

    Marc, Ableton Live is great for laptop gigs if it's improv/on-the-fly or dj'ing. I expected Mainstage to be like that too. maybe it will, I need to play with that more methinks :P Have you had a pissfart around with it?

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    Just ordered my Mac this week, so i'm now looking to buy Logic Studio this week.

    Can anyone inform me of a place to purchase Logic Studio for the cheapest price? I'm also a student and qualify for the student discount if that helps. Also if there is any limitations on the Education Individual versions?

    So far:
    Apple AUS Site: (Edu price) $598

    Thanks heaps !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solois View Post
    Just ordered my Mac this week, so i'm now looking to buy Logic Studio this week.

    Can anyone inform me of a place to purchase Logic Studio for the cheapest price? I'm also a student and qualify for the student discount if that helps. Also if there is any limitations on the Education Individual versions?

    So far:
    Apple AUS Site: (Edu price) $598

    Thanks heaps !!
    As far as I know, the edu version can't be upgraded, other than that there are no restrictions. You can't of course use it to make money.

    You should be able get the full version for the price you listed (or close to it), just shop around a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seagate View Post
    As far as I know, the edu version can't be upgraded, other than that there are no restrictions. You can't of course use it to make money.

    You should be able get the full version for the price you listed (or close to it), just shop around a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachie View Post
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    Oops. only just now noticed the date...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seagate View Post
    As far as I know, the edu version can't be upgraded, other than that there are no restrictions. You can't of course use it to make money.

    You should be able get the full version for the price you listed (or close to it), just shop around a little.
    I only just learnt this difference between the education packages and the regular packages. What would I be missing out with these updates? Are they bug fix/patches 'n things? I was looking to get a Final Cut Studio package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatamidoing View Post
    I only just learnt this difference between the education packages and the regular packages. What would I be missing out with these updates? Are they bug fix/patches 'n things? I was looking to get a Final Cut Studio package.
    You are locked out of upgrading to the next major version you still get all the updates coming through SU

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    Quote Originally Posted by seagate View Post
    You are locked out of upgrading to the next major version you still get all the updates coming through SU
    Are these updates free ..?

    *edit - oh wait, I just worked out what you meant by "su". I assume it's free then. What kind updates do you get with Logic (or FCS if you happen to know).

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatamidoing View Post
    Are these updates free ..?

    *edit - oh wait, I just worked out what you meant by "su". I assume it's free then. What kind updates do you get with Logic (or FCS if you happen to know).
    Incremental updates, mostly bug fixes, but Apple has been known to add a feature or two to Logic with the free updates. Sorry, no idea about FCS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seagate View Post
    Incremental updates, mostly bug fixes, but Apple has been known to add a feature or two to Logic with the free updates.
    They've also been known to charge for point updates (7.0 to 7.1, 7.1 to 7.2 etc).

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    Thanks y'all. I'm in a better decision-making position, at least I have an idea what the price difference involves now.

    Do you guys have the full package or the education packages yourselves? Or have you found the non-update edu packages were worth the cheaper price?

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    Full version here...
    You'll pay more in the long run for the Edu packages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seagate View Post
    Full version here...
    You'll pay more in the long run for the Edu packages.
    I've got one more question - do the Express versions (eg Logic Express, Final Cut Express etc) contain significantly less tools, or are they sort of sufficient as standalones? I realise this likely comes down to a personal perspective. I went to Borders and spent a few minutes flipping through the contents page of the help books of the full versions and the express versions but couldn't really see how each version differs. I guess what I'm asking is, would you feel significantly held back with an express version, or do the express versions contain enough basic tools to work your way around, albeit through more time and/or effort?

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