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  1. #1

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    Default Performance improvements - older MBP vs new model

    Hi,

    I'm wondering what the performance improvements are going to be with a new MBP over my older spec'd machine (listed below):

    Potential new machine: (priced off apple online store today - $3,249.00)
    Specifications
    2.8GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 4.0GHz
    16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
    512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
    Intel Iris Pro Graphics and NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M with 2GB of GDDR5 memory
    Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide

    I upgraded the old spinny hard drive to a Mercury EXTREME Pro 6G SSD Media a couple of years back which greatly improved performance.

    It just seems to be getting a bit laggy now with Yosemite.
    Mainly use for Microsoft Office, Final Cut Pro X, I do a lot of .pdf creations bringing together a variety of document formats into contiguous .pdf's for presentation to clients, etc.

    Looking for some advice as to wether the price is justified - is it worth the additional $70 to include the NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M with 2GB of GDDR5 memory as well? Don't play any games on this computer.

    Thanks..

    Existing MBP specs below:
    Hardware Overview:

    Model Name: MacBook Pro
    Model Identifier: MacBookPro8,2
    Processor Name: Intel Core i7
    Processor Speed: 2.2 GHz
    Number of Processors: 1
    Total Number of Cores: 4
    L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
    L3 Cache: 6 MB
    Memory: 8 GB
    Boot ROM Version: MBP81.0047.B27
    SMC Version (system): 1.69f4


    Available: 57.54 GB (57,536,675,840 bytes)
    Capacity: 238.83 GB (238,826,422,272 bytes)
    Mount Point: /
    File System: Journaled HFS+
    Writable: Yes
    Ignore Ownership: No
    BSD Name: disk1
    Volume UUID:
    Logical Volume:
    Revertible: Yes (no decryption required)
    Encrypted: No
    LV UUID:
    Logical Volume Group:
    Name: xxx
    Size: 239.2 GB (239,197,650,944 bytes)
    LVG UUID:
    Physical Volumes:
    disk0s2:
    Media Name: Mercury EXTREME Pro 6G SSD Media
    Size: 239.2 GB (239,197,650,944 bytes)
    Medium Type: SSD
    Protocol: SATA
    Internal: Yes
    Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
    Status: Online
    S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified

    AMD Radeon HD 6750M:

    Chipset Model: AMD Radeon HD 6750M
    Type: GPU
    Bus: PCIe
    PCIe Lane Width: x8
    VRAM (Total): 1024 MB
    Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
    Device ID: 0x6741
    Revision ID: 0x0000
    ROM Revision: 113-C0170L-573
    gMux Version: 1.9.23
    EFI Driver Version: 01.00.573
    Displays:
    Intel HD Graphics 3000:

    Chipset Model: Intel HD Graphics 3000
    Type: GPU
    Bus: Built-In
    VRAM (Total): 512 MB
    VRAM (Dynamic, Max): 10
    Vendor: Intel (0x8086)
    Device ID: 0x0126
    Revision ID: 0x0009
    gMux Version: 1.9.23

    Memory Slots:

    ECC: Disabled
    Upgradeable Memory: Yes

    BANK 0/DIMM0:

    Size: 4 GB
    Type: DDR3
    Speed: 1333 MHz
    Status: OK
    Manufacturer: 0x80AD
    Part Number: 0x484D54333531533642465238432D48392020
    Serial Number:

    BANK 1/DIMM0:

    Size: 4 GB
    Type: DDR3
    Speed: 1333 MHz
    Status: OK
    Manufacturer: 0x80AD
    Part Number: 0x484D54333531533642465238432D48392020
    Serial Number:

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    Mactracker is really good for this kind of stuff. Apart from full specs, it includes GeekBench 2 scores for each model. The MacBook Pro (15-inch, late 2011) 2.2GHz scores 10,006, while the current model 2.8GHz scores 14,049. So, about 40% faster, which is usually quite noticeable. Yours will be faster than average 2011 MBPs because of the SSD, but you'll still get better disk speed in the new model because it's PCIe rather than SATA.

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    Thanks Soulman,
    Installed MacTracker - interesting comparing the 2 models.
    now need to work out if it is worth paying the price for speed benefits.....
    Silly question probably everyone asks, r there any noticeable updates coming up???

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    According to the MacRumors Buyer's Guide, rMBPs are closer to the end of a cycle than the beginning, so I would probably wait if I could. Then again, there will always be something faster/better/shinier around the corner, so if you need it now, buy it now. I recently grabbed a refurb current model like the one you're looking at for my business partner and it is seriously fast. Really. Very. Powerful.

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    Not in a screaming hurry at the moment - thanks again soulman - I completely forgot about the product cycle as well.
    Will wait a bit to see what new shiny comes up - speed bump etc for same pricing would be a better incentive.

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    Well, the decision was taken away from me at 11am this morning.
    My existing MBP developed the same GPU problem it experienced in Feb 2013 (which cost me $700 to replace motherboard back then)...
    So, bought new MBP 15", 2.8GHz, 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM - it is seriously quick - back home to restore from SuperDuper backup - back in the office at 2:15pm continuing on with work... make sure you do regular backup ppls
    Apple store guy said there is now an official motherboard replacement program for my problem, so to book it in (NB: Apple may even refund me my intial $700 outlay from 2 years ago and replace faulty motherboard now) - will wait to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffP View Post
    Apple may even refund me my intial $700 outlay from 2 years ago and replace faulty motherboard now...
    That would really sweeten the whole thing. Enjoy your new shiny!

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    Default Performance improvements - older MBP vs new model

    EDIT: I see you are.

    Are you aware of the Apple repair extension on faulty Macbook Pros?

    If yours is covered then you should be able to get it repaired for free and also get a refund for your previous repair.

    https://www.apple.com/au/support/mac...o-videoissues/
    Something about Jimby.

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    Thanks Leon.
    And yeppers, that's what the apple store guy told me yesterday as well.
    Have booked a genius bar appointment for next wednesday - will update with results of meeting.
    NB: Thanks for the link - it says what they said - so I should get a refund as well..

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    Oh that would be an excellent outcome, indeed. No doubt about Apple. We whinge and whine about them from time to time, but generally, they do the right thing.

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    Well happy dayzzzz,

    The Genius bar appointment on Sunday went well - they tested my old MBP and confirmed the GPU had crapped itself - again...
    The motherboard will be replaced for free under the "MacBook Pro Repair Extension Program for Video Issues" - many thanks Leon for posting the link to this above

    Secondly, quick chat with Apple support today followed up with a couple of emails - they have authorised a full refund of the $709.50 I paid in Feb 2013 to replace the motherboard with the failed GPU.
    NB: This refund will pay for my car rego

    Now I have to decide what I will do with the repaired 15" MBP.
    Will either upgrade my wife's 13" MBP and sell that, or if she wants to keep the smaller form factor, I will sell the repaired 15" MBP.
    Not a bad time to sell it either, brand new motherboard and increased pricing across will help.

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    and received an email from Apple this morning confirming they will transfer the money within 15 days

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    i Hope that sorts the problem out. I had the motherboard replaced 3 times in my MBP before Apple agreed to replace the whole machine. It's a 2010 model, and it still freaks out if I try to edit video in iMovie. Hopefully with the new models Apple will have learned about overheating GPUs.
    Macintosh SE (OS 7.1); 15" MBP Intel Core i5 2.4ghz (Snow Leopard); too many iGadgets

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    Awesome news. People can say what they want about Apple, there aren't many companies that have awesome customer service stories like this.
    People reckon I'm too patronising (That means I treat them as if they're stupid)

    Macbook Air 11", Mac Mini, iPhone 5, Apple TV 3rd Generation.

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    Great news!!

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    Well, refunded money is now in my account AND picked up my repaired MBP with a new motherboard.
    Going to sell this as my wife prefers to keep her small form factor MBP.

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