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    I've been having massive arguments online about iOS 8 device support. Its pretty obvious that it won't run on the iPhone 4.. but people claim there is no reason whatever for it to run on the iPad 2. I think there is.... eg. They sold it up to recently, it is probably the iPad with the greatest installed base, it runs iOS 7 fine(and iOS 8 probably won't be a big change) and they're still selling almost every other A5 device and thus support is pretty much guaranteed for them, so it is pretty much certain that they would have to support the iPad 2 if they support the others.
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    If they don't support the iPad 2 there will be a shitload of people complaining about that.I would like to see how many have actually been sold.

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    That was October 2013..... and considering apple themselves said that 50 percent or maybe more iPad Air users have come from non Apple devices, i would suggest that there are still a lot of iPad 2s in the wild, and plus they sold them up to March, so there was another 5 months of sales after that graph.

    If they didn't support it there would be a lot of complaints. I'm wondering if the iPhone 4 will get it as well? They only just finished making it for India and a few other markets and its still very used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldmacs View Post
    I'm wondering if the iPhone 4 will get it as well? They only just finished making it for India and a few other markets and its still very used.
    I doubt that the iPhone 4 would receive another major iOS update, seeing as 7 didn't yield much in the way of performance.

    Keep in mind, the markets you mention - in general - wouldn't be primarily concerned with "the latest" iOS updates, rather, just being able to use a smartphone and have access to mobile internet. These are Apple's "expansion" markets, if I'm not mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lawrencium View Post
    I doubt that the iPhone 4 would receive another major iOS update, seeing as 7 didn't yield much in the way of performance.

    Keep in mind, the markets you mention - in general - wouldn't be primarily concerned with "the latest" iOS updates, rather, just being able to use a smartphone and have access to mobile internet. These are Apple's "expansion" markets, if I'm not mistaken.
    If iOS 8 is not a massive change, who knows? iOS 7.1 runs pretty well on my iPhone 4. The other thing is that Apple may not choose to support a device purely on how well it will run (Eg iOS 4 on the 3G) but how many people use it/how long its been since discontinuation etc.
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    Figures from March 2014:

    Top on 2014-03:
    Apple: 100.0%
    Device models

    Top on 2014-03:
    iPhone 5: 13.4%
    iPhone 4S: 13.0%
    iPad 2: 12.2%
    iPhone 4: 11.1%
    iPad Mini: 10.6%
    iPhone 5S: 9.1%
    iPad 4: 6.4%
    iPad 3: 4.9%
    iPod Touch 4th: 4.5%
    iPod Touch 5th: 4.0%
    Others (click to show): 10.7%

    (Unity Mobile Specs)

    If the iPad 2 and iPhone 4 are both dropped, like many people are suggesting, that is 23 percent of Apple's installed user base gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldmacs View Post

    If the iPad 2 and iPhone 4 are both dropped, like many people are suggesting, that is 23 percent of Apple's installed user base gone.
    I don't think the iPhone 4 will see another major iOS update, however the iPad 2 would most likely be supported due to Apple selling them until late-2013 (as well as it having almost the same internals as the first iPad mini).

    However, I can't see iOS 8 being too taxing on "older" devices in comparison to how iOS 7 is/was.
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    But is Apple willing to ignore that massive iPhone 4 user group?
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    I agree, however I'm only going on what Apple have done in the past.

    How about when they dropped support for the original iPad? You could say that iOS 5 compared to 6 would be, in a way, similar to iOS 7 to 8. That didn't stop them from dropping support for a fairly recent device at the time.

    Essentially, the iPhone 4 is four years old and is in the same generation as the (unsupported) 4th iPod Touch.
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    Yeah I know, it would make no sense based on recent patterns, but keep in mind that the iPad 1 had very low usage by the time it was dropped, and so did the 3GS. The iPhone 4 is still in massive usage. The iPhone 4 also handles iOS 7 reasonably, but the iPad 1 didn't even handle iOS 5 well. Its quite interesting actually, because I think there are a number of aspects to Apples decisions on what to run. If iOS 8 is not a massive upgrade i can see them offering it to iPhone 4 users. It would be a first to offer a 4th OS upgrade on the 4, but theres always a first. Remember when everyone was surprised that the 3GS got iOS 6? I remember people being surprised it even got iOS 5!

    I could see the iPhone 4 getting a really limited release, it would keep people in the ecosystem, and give another year for people to save for newer iOS devices.

    Having said that, I think that iOS 8 will be iPhone 4S and up, iPad 2 and up and iPod Touch 5th gen. I'm also thinking that some A5 devices *may* see iOS 9. Considering it sells the iPod touch 5 as its premium iPod (Not like the iPhone 4S and iPad Min 1 where they are the cheap options) and I would assume it will do so up to October this year, by the time WWDC 2015 swings around, there will be owners of the iPod touch 5 who bought them under a year ago, and to drop support for them would be dodgy.
    Last edited by Oldmacs; 26th May 2014 at 01:31 PM.
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