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  1. #1

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    Default Posting from a centris 650

    Hi all- I am postinf this to you from a 1993 Centris 650 !!!!!
    It is running netscape 3
    Thanks to LC GUY- I finally got around to installing open transport and the internet finally works
    Pictures will come later
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    Awesome! How? I wonder if my SE would do it...?
    Macintosh SE (OS 7.1); 15" MBP Intel Core i5 2.4ghz (Snow Leopard); too many iGadgets

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    I have an 8100/80av (running 7.5.5) set up with IE4 that has internet connectivity. Not at the moment, since all I have in terms of internet is a wireless modem.

    That said, I don't think I've gotten a 68k machine on the net. I might have gotten one my LC475 or Quadra 700 to go, but I can't remember...
    Last edited by neoxide; 9th October 2012 at 12:49 PM.

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    Pics or it didn't happen

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    They are coming.......
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    I suppose your SE could do it! - Do you have an ethernet card- I have an ethernet card in my Centris and used a Airport extreme set up to extend the network to connect the machine. I copied the TCP/IP settings from the network settings in Mountain Lion on my Macbook pro.
    I found that the only way to have some sort of reasonable experience was at minimum using Netscape 3 and disabling Java- you need 9MB of free RAM just to Run netscape 3. I had a better experience in Netscape 4 web wise, however it was more resource intensive. Most Web pages look completely different to on a new web browser. Despite this I was able to post to this site and Facebook :P

    Also make sure to install open transport
    Plus, IIci, IIsi, LC, LCII, LC III, CC, LC475, LC630, Centris650, 6100, 8100, 5260, 7220, 7600. PB: 100, 150, 160, 165, 540, 190, 5300, 1400. Lombard, iMacG3, iBookG3, iBookG4, PBG4, eMac, iMac G4, PMG4, MiniG4, iMacG5

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    IMG_1168 by oldmacs, on Flickr


    IMG_1166 by oldmacs, on Flickr


    IMG_1170 by oldmacs, on Flickr


    IMG_1164 by oldmacs, on Flickr
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    Aiieee. My eyes!!!

    Good work though.
    Grrrr, Arrrrghhh!!!
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    So I challenge anyone else to post to Mac talk on a Mac older than my Centris 650 and show pictures to prove it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldmacs View Post
    So I challenge anyone else to post to Mac talk on a Mac older than my Centris 650 and show pictures to prove it
    Not older than a Centris 650 but prettier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldmacs View Post
    I suppose your SE could do it! - Do you have an ethernet card- I have an ethernet card in my Centris and used a Airport extreme set up to extend the network to connect the machine. I copied the TCP/IP settings from the network settings in Mountain Lion on my Macbook pro.
    I found that the only way to have some sort of reasonable experience was at minimum using Netscape 3 and disabling Java- you need 9MB of free RAM just to Run netscape 3. I had a better experience in Netscape 4 web wise, however it was more resource intensive. Most Web pages look completely different to on a new web browser. Despite this I was able to post to this site and Facebook :P

    Also make sure to install open transport
    Homework assignment: What's the earliest mac you can run Open Transport on?

    And another: Where do you get SE PDS ethernet cards from? (you'd also need a torx screwdriver and possible an AUI adapter, becuase not many of them have 10BaseT capability without one)
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    Just out of curiosity, I looked on eBay for SE PDS ethernet cards - there was one for around $82, and another installed in a michine (in the US) going for over $500 US. These things are getting kinda pricey, but I guess that these people are targeting the legacy support market as opposed to collectors.

    If anyone wants to try getting an SE online and needs a card - ask me. If I've got one spare (I'm not sure I do, but I have do lots of junk) then I'll send it to you for postage cost. Viva Hobbyists!

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    Open Transport is designed to work on portable and desktop Apple Macintosh or Mac OS compatible computers with a Motorola 68030 or 68040 family microprocessor, or a PowerPC 601, 603(e), or 604 microprocessor.

    So it would be the 1988 Macintosh IIx
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    Have you tried running some older versions of iCab? I believe it will render pages a little nicer than Netscape of that era.

    68k link iCab - Downloads
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    I have tried iCab.... It doesn't start up for some reason- Gives an error number. Internet explorer 4 renders better but is slow as all get out. Netscape seems to run reasonably well!
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    Netscape (Mozilla) always has tended to be a bit more compliant than everything else and more capable, back when ActiveX plugins were all the rage Netscape was the only browser that could deal with it on a Mac. That and it generally sticks to being HTML compliant to the letter rather than breaking things the way IE did particularly back then. The only real reason IE became popular is because it was hard coded into Windows 95b, otherwise Netscape (Firefox) would have taken the market much sooner than what it did. God I feel old now.
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    Good to hear you finally got it working! Yes...Netscape 4 does render modern websites just a tad better than Netscape 3, given that it supports CSS and Netscape 3 doesn't...at the same time however...its not exactly what you'd call "fast".

    As for the browser wars in the mid 1990's...yep, I remember them too. Was a Netscape man all the way to the bitter end. In 2002 I finally went from Netscape 4.8 to Mozilla. Then in 2004 I went from Mozilla to Firefox, which I've used pretty much ever since. Orestes is right, really - if it wasn't for the fact that IE was included with Windows 95B, and then made a major component of the OS in Windows 98, I think Netscape would have won.
    Good. Fast. Cheap. Pick two...

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    I always have been a Netscape man and Netscape did win... At least I classify it as a win being a Netscape user when Firefox became more popular than IE. It's swung around a bit now with Chrome and the uptake of mobile devices, but we're getting a little way from the topic.
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    We were with netscape up until around 2002 when we went to internet explorer for some reason. Then we went to Safari in 2004 or 5? I remember hating it so much for such a long time- I kept using Internet explorer for a fair time then in 2006ish I tried Safari again and loved it ! I have used a combination of safari and Chrome since. I stopped using Chrome a year or two ago but on my vintage machines I use firefox. I really like firfox but the sleekness of safari now is hard to ignore....
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    Its always been the range of plugins that have kept me on Firefox.
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