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    Default Hackintosh in the real world (to me in Melbourne)

    Note: Please don't discuss how to obtain or implement Hackintosh here in this thread.

    It has been with curious interest that I now have encountered 2 people giving Hackintosh a good go.

    Of note I learnt today, one of them is a friend, and sometime soon I will pay him a visit and see what all the fuss is about.

    My position has always been...

    1) I support Apple hardware. (That's all I have had for many, many years.)

    2) I support Apple Operating Systems.

    3) Apple don't always make the hardware that I and others want at times, and I think Apple should just make the best Apple hardware, but also sell the Apple Operating System to anyone that wants to run it on an Apple specified level PC.

    Let's have choice.

    Just what is the count of people, say in Melbourne, giving Hackintosh a good go?

    Now I duck and cover for when Brains comes in on one of the few topic we disagree on.

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    What do you want to know exactly?
    How many people in Melbourne are using a Hackintosh?

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    Whilst I (and lots of others here and elsewhere) would dearly dearly love Apple to come out with a mini-tower, the chances of it actually happening are nil and buckley's. Geeks love to tinker, even at the hardware level, but Apple's whole methodology is to keep everything closed, so there's a permanent case of loggerheads there. If Apple decided to sell Mac OS X bundled with a bare motherboard with a socket for a Core2Duo or Quad and a couple of PCI-E slots, I'd be all over it, as would thousands of others.

    As for allowing OSX to run on non-Macs: I disagree, because this will open up MacOS to driver pollution and the steady eradication of one of Apple's key selling points, the stable operating system.

    These issues have been discussed ad nauseum here on MTAU, so have a search and a good read.

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    As a Hackintosh user myself, I can tell you that there are 2,784 people in Melbourne who use Hybrid Macs at the last count.

    Interestingly this is more than Sydney at 1,923. Wonder why Sydney-siders don't use Hybrids as much as Melbournites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by decryption View Post
    What do you want to know exactly?
    How many people in Melbourne are using a Hackintosh?
    Yes, generally speaking, just how widespread is it here, not elsewhere?

    I suppose one does not have to limit it to Melbourne, but what about just Oz?

    Edit: Beaten, just saw my answer above

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Coxy View Post
    As a Hackintosh user myself, I can tell you that there are 2,784 people in Melbourne who use Hybrid Macs at the last count.

    Interestingly this is more than Sydney at 1,923. Wonder why Sydney-siders don't use Hybrids as much as Melbournites?
    Did you pull these out your arse or are they real? If they're real, where did they come from?
    Don't tell me there's some sort of social networking aspect that reports back to your little seedy clubhouse so you can keep track of your hackintosh l33tness

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    Quote Originally Posted by decryption View Post
    Did you pull these out your arse or are they real? If they're real, where did they come from?
    I say bullshit soon find out if they have sources...

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    Okay.

    When I got my iphone i fell in love with the device. I had a few friends with Macs and had a bit of a play with them and liked what I saw. I thought I wanted one, but it was a pretty big leap for me to make to shell out even for a Macbook (which was basically the form factor I wanted).

    So I figured i'll give it a try, on my Dell 8600.

    Well on my four year old Dell OSX ran just fine thanks, apart from some hardware issues like no sleep/hibernate/whatever. It only had 1.25gb of RAM and a crap graphics card and even that worked fairly well as far as Expose, spaces, the Dock animations etc. I figured a real Macbook would be awesome, and the one I have now is.

    Anyway I ran this up until the announcements of the new Macbooks, decided they were too expensive and so thats when I purchased my white 2.1 Macbook (combo drive). I've since sold the Dell to a friend (and yes i wiped OSX off it it's back to Windows again).

    I couldn't be bothered trying again on a PC because of all the hardware issues/incompatibilities. I love my Macbook. I still have a Mac capable PC in the house but why bother when I've got a real Mac? The Mac capable PC runs Vista as a HTPC and that's fine.

    Personally I think as was my experience that Hackinosh is really just likely to make someone want the real thing even more.

    In the eyes of the purists I'm probably a heathen still but hey I've now spent over $3000 on Apple Products in the last two years so I figure I'm in the clear now

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    My next desktop would most defiantly be a hackintosh, except for snow leopard. Apple are surely going to break osx86 with it aren't they?
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    Opening up OSX to non-Apple computers would just cause it to get bloated, buggy, cause a decline in the quality of support, and just generally take on all the problems of Windows.

    It would be silly for Apple to just destroy one of the biggest benefits of OSX.

    Quote Originally Posted by Piratbyran View Post
    My next desktop would most defiantly be a hackintosh, except for snow leopard. Apple are surely going to break osx86 with it aren't they?
    As far as I'm concerned 10.6 would fix OSX86 by stopping it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoRicen View Post
    Opening up OSX to non-Apple computers would just cause it to get bloated, buggy, cause a decline in the quality of support, and just generally take on all the problems of Windows.
    I did say that Apple would set a minimum level for their OS to work on. Meaning anything outside that would be enough for them to say "Too bad", and therefore they won't have let OSX become bloated & buggy.

    BTW I should add that my friend that has gone Hackintosh, has a good history of buying Apple hardware (desktop/laptops), but also has a lot of PC experience and PC hardware as well.

    Maybe this is the clue?

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    snow leopard already works on any pc that leopard runs on. i think its pretty safe to say that anything that will run on an intel mac can be messed with to run on PC.

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    An interesting note is that the lock in between software/hardware will not be enforceable if Apple ever become a monopoly in the desktop space (difficult to imaging given their current business practice).
    This opinion intentionally left blank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Coxy View Post
    As a Hackintosh user myself, I can tell you that there are 2,784 people in Melbourne who use Hybrid Macs at the last count.

    Interestingly this is more than Sydney at 1,923. Wonder why Sydney-siders don't use Hybrids as much as Melbournites?
    Let the holy war begin...



    Quote Originally Posted by Piratbyran View Post
    My next desktop would most defiantly be a hackintosh, except for snow leopard. Apple are surely going to break osx86 with it aren't they?
    For a few weeks.
    If it can be imagined, their is already porn based on it.

    The Rudd/Conroy Internet Censorship Plan is political censorship.

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    The oft-stated point to Macs is that everything "just works". Hackintosh is the opposite of this philosophy, so I'm not even slightly interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcn33 View Post
    The oft-stated point to Macs is that everything "just works". Hackintosh is the opposite of this philosophy, so I'm not even slightly interested.
    Fair comment, but there is a fun factor in it if it's done on a non-critical machine.
    If it can be imagined, their is already porn based on it.

    The Rudd/Conroy Internet Censorship Plan is political censorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Coxy View Post
    As a Hackintosh user myself, I can tell you that there are 2,784 people in Melbourne who use Hybrid Macs at the last count.

    Interestingly this is more than Sydney at 1,923. Wonder why Sydney-siders don't use Hybrids as much as Melbournites?
    LOL. Does a hybrid Mac have a smug cloud hovering over it?

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    I've built a couple for friends...

    --neg

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    Quote Originally Posted by neg2led View Post
    I've built a couple for friends...

    --neg
    Thought criminal! On a serious note, are they serving well and running generally reliably? Done any laptops?
    If it can be imagined, their is already porn based on it.

    The Rudd/Conroy Internet Censorship Plan is political censorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decryption View Post
    Did you pull these out your arse or are they real? If they're real, where did they come from?
    Don't tell me there's some sort of social networking aspect that reports back to your little seedy clubhouse so you can keep track of your hackintosh l33tness
    It's the secret social networking site that you get an invite to if you install from one of the osx86 distributions.


    Quote Originally Posted by mitty View Post
    LOL. Does a hybrid Mac have a smug cloud hovering over it?
    Some do, actually. Personally I am not against Macs per se, and while I recommend Hybrids to tech enthusiasts I can understand why people would just buy a real Mac instead.

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