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Devil rolla
14th April 2010, 12:34 PM
Aussie e-tailer offers iPad pre-orders
By Negar Salek
Apr 7, 2010 3:01 PM
Tags: 1saleadaycom | ipad | australia | melbourne
Flouts Apple's rules in one day sale.

Melbourne-based ecommerce shop 1saleaday.com.au is taking orders for the 16GB version of the Apple iPad, in direct violation of the vendor's policy.

The site, which advertises "new deals at midnight everyday", is offering the iPad 16GB for AU$799 with 12 months warranty in a sale that closes at midnight tonight.

Simon Mochkin, director of 1saleaday, told CRN that any iPads ordered today will be delivered to the customer within seven days.

full story
Aussie e-tailer offers iPad pre-orders - Hardware - Technology - News - CRN Australia (http://www.crn.com.au/News/171429,aussie-e-tailer-offers-ipad-pre-orders.aspx)

Balthazar
14th April 2010, 12:41 PM
shameless grab for hits, they wont sell any iPads for that price

Fedgrub
14th April 2010, 12:47 PM
shameless grab for hits, they wont sell any iPads for that price

Disappointingly, I think they will sell some. There are some desperate, desperate people here right now.

Not me personally.

Devil rolla
14th April 2010, 12:47 PM
people are paying 750-800 on ebay..

Balthazar
14th April 2010, 12:52 PM
people are paying 750-800 on ebay..

I stand corrected

Mickytk
14th April 2010, 12:54 PM
And it was a week ago, too.

dawsman
14th April 2010, 01:00 PM
Is $750-800 really too much? I paid $780 plus shipping on eBay for the 16GB. It is likely to be only $100 - $150 more than the Australian RRP (I'm guessing $649). I'm happy with that considering you get it 2-3 weeks early and avoid the risk of a delayed release.

Devil rolla
14th April 2010, 01:04 PM
499USD = 535AUD, so for a US iPad, no matter what the AUDM iPad price will be, 265 is a Large markup to me.

Fedgrub
14th April 2010, 01:09 PM
Is $750-800 really too much? I paid $780 plus shipping on eBay for the 16GB. It is likely to be only $100 - $150 more than the Australian RRP (I'm guessing $649). I'm happy with that considering you get it 2-3 weeks early and avoid the risk of a delayed release.

Good value is only up to the person spending the money dude :)

Devil rolla
14th April 2010, 01:13 PM
265 is a Large markup to me.

like i said.

Fedgrub
14th April 2010, 01:21 PM
Precisely.

dawsman
14th April 2010, 01:24 PM
If someone walked up to you right now with a boxed 16GB iPad, how much would you be willing to pay for it?

That's the position I was in on Monday. An iPad came up in Brisbane, 1 day auction, offering express post. I got it this morning.

TheKeddi
14th April 2010, 02:33 PM
Only the person spending the money can say weather its worth it or not..

If you don't think it's worth it then that's your opinion. If you do then Thats your opinion too.

I paid $800 for mine and have had it a week now and it's worth every penny!!!!!!

OziMac
14th April 2010, 03:59 PM
499USD = 535AUD, so for a US iPad, no matter what the AUDM iPad price will be, 265 is a Large markup to me.

Fair enough. But IMHO, AUD 535 is a spurious comparison point that simply doesn't reflect what the iPad actually costs to obtain.

If by markup you mean what they make off the top, then it's nowhere near $265. They'll be paying for shipping, sales tax, possibly customs duty and GST, and unless they're also into hedging, a penalty on the currency conversion. Without going into laborious detail, those alone put the price of the 16GB above AUD 700.

If you mean a markup on the price it's available to you through other means, then currently the difference is small to nothing - given you'd be paying most of the same associated costs to get it here, or a similar price on eBay. If you wait a few weeks, you may get it at around $649 (which is a far more reasonable starting point than $535, which simply is not going to happen), so you do pay a $150 convenience premium.

But TheKeddi pretty much summed up the situation - in the end, it's worth what anyone is willing to pay for it. :)

azultrahur
14th April 2010, 04:32 PM
Would it really hurt people to show some restraint and wait? It's going to be here officially in about three weeks. Although it's undoubtably cool, it's just a mass market consumer device that will be available everywhere and made obsolete in no time.

I've waited five months to get a working iMac (2 machines, 2 repairs) and today when I went to finally pick up a working computer my car was totalled by an Australia Post truck. It did not stop. When I went in our other car to pick it up it was also involved in a hit-and-run.

I am alive and uninjured and my iMac made it home. There truly are more important things in life to get worked up over.

younge
14th April 2010, 04:57 PM
Something is telling me azultrahur, that you weren't meant to have that iMac!!!

Seriously, hope things improve...

dawsman
14th April 2010, 05:32 PM
I've waited five months to get a working iMac (2 machines, 2 repairs) and today when I went to finally pick up a working computer my car was totalled by an Australia Post truck. It did not stop. When I went in our other car to pick it up it was also involved in a hit-and-run.

I am alive and uninjured and my iMac made it home. There truly are more important things in life to get worked up over.

So, you're content with having a working iMac despite also having two wrecked cars? Talk about thinking positively! Glad to hear you're okay.


Would it really hurt people to show some restraint and wait? It's going to be here officially in about three weeks. Although it's undoubtably cool, it's just a mass market consumer device that will be available everywhere and made obsolete in no time.

Back on topic.... while the iPad (like the iPhone) might be a "mass market consumer device", it is also unique and the first of its kind (like the iPhone was). It will likely only be made obsolete by new revisions of itself (like the iPhone). Other manufacturers may try to enter the market with similar devices, but if the iPhone is anything to go by then the other products will be inferior.

Did I say iPhone enough?

ipwn
14th April 2010, 05:53 PM
Guys, It seems there is a $300 gap or 25% more between the US site and the Au site on the new macbooks

999 macbook - 1299 au
1199 13" pro - 1499 au
This is the low end and most recent prices.

so that means

iPad could be between

$300 more than US
WIFI $799 16gb $899 32gb $999 64gb
WIFI/3g $929 16gb $1029 32gb $1129 64gb

25% more Than US + GST
WIFI $689 16gb $829 32gb $969 64gb
WIFI/3g $869 16gb $1010 32gb $1139 64gb

So I would budget between these prices which is about $50 except for the 16gb

LithgowLights
14th April 2010, 06:02 PM
Guys, It seems there is a $300 gap or 25% more between the US site and the Au site on the new macbooks

999 macbook - 1299 au
1199 13" pro - 1499 au
This is the low end and most recent prices.

so that means

iPad could be between

$300 more than US
WIFI $799 16gb $899 32gb $999 64gb
WIFI/3g $929 16gb $1029 32gb $1129 64gb

25% more Than US + GST
WIFI $689 16gb $829 32gb $969 64gb
WIFI/3g $869 16gb $1010 32gb $1139 64gb

So I would budget between these prices which is about $50 except for the 16gb

Based on those prices I'd probably not bother. I dont believe they are even close to good value for money at that price.

TheKeddi
14th April 2010, 06:06 PM
They are more than good value at those prices. Unless you can't afford one. Until you actually have one or used one you have no way to judge its value.

Wait till it comes out before judging it's value.

Mine is worth every penny!

amstrad_mac
14th April 2010, 07:06 PM
Well if the ipad base model is 699 or over ill just order one via priceusa... Seriously id rather save myself $100 or therebouts or get the 32gb version for the same price..

Jinkst
14th April 2010, 07:22 PM
I just got mine and it's amazing so far. I had the money to splash so I got a 64gb and I do not care about if it was worth it or not. I'm happy and that's what counts :p

iphonedev
14th April 2010, 07:39 PM
I am loving it,I got mine delivered on Monday and no regrets at all

Cheers

Vojtin
14th April 2010, 08:02 PM
what sellers?

LXBren
14th April 2010, 08:03 PM
499USD = 535AUD, so for a US iPad, no matter what the AUDM iPad price will be, 265 is a Large markup to me.

That's if you can get it yourself from US. lets face it, it's not going to be $535AU in aussie stores.

Cybix
14th April 2010, 08:08 PM
iPads could officially be here in a week and a half, maybe two weeks. Both versions no doubt. 3G model thanx. I'll wait.

nando
14th April 2010, 09:09 PM
some ppl have families and mortgages..(ie more important stuff) some other ppl dont have or are very very rich...to me a $800 ipad is like hmmm in the ouch side...and have to think twice ... whats the ROI?? dont know what an iPad's ROI would be at that price

nightelves
15th April 2010, 12:41 AM
iPads could officially be here in a week and a half, maybe two weeks. Both versions no doubt. 3G model thanx. I'll wait.

You better make that late May ;)

bljpoad
15th April 2010, 01:24 AM
499USD = 535AUD, so for a US iPad, no matter what the AUDM iPad price will be, 265 is a Large markup to me.
That's if you can get it yourself from US. lets face it, it's not going to be $535AU in aussie stores.That's if you can get it yourself from US. lets face it, it's not going to be $535AU in aussie stores.

I just moved to the States, and I can tell you that $499 is not what you will pay for the base iPad, at least not in California. All prices I have encountered so far do not include the state sales tax, which is about 9%, or a recycling fee for electronics. So by the time you add in tax you are looking at $550 over the counter price, shipping and insurance would be of the order of $50ish to ship to Australia giving you a grand total of around US$600. I guess that works out at around AUD$650 going by google's exchange rate.

So it is looking like a $150 markup they are doing, which still seems steep.
- Berwyck

LithgowLights
15th April 2010, 03:39 AM
All prices I have encountered so far do not include the state sales tax, which is about 9%, or a recycling fee for electronics. So by the time you add in tax you are looking at $550 over the counter price,

Yeah thats something that always bugged me with the US's prices. What they advertise is NOT what you pay as it does not include various local and state taxes (which vary from state to state!), may often include other hidden charges, and then depending on what you are getting (such as a service like a meal etc, you are expected to tip somewhere between 10 and 20%, or more.

Here a $200 item costs $200. A $30 steak at a restaurant costs $30 and thats it. So much easier :)

bljpoad
15th April 2010, 05:27 AM
Yeah thats something that always bugged me with the US's prices. What they advertise is NOT what you pay as it does not include various local and state taxes (which vary from state to state!), may often include other hidden charges, and then depending on what you are getting (such as a service like a meal etc, you are expected to tip somewhere between 10 and 20%, or more.

Here a $200 item costs $200. A $30 steak at a restaurant costs $30 and thats it. So much easier :)

Tell me about it! A number of times I have gone to pay for something and been taken aback when they told me it was $XX more than I was expecting. Still, it won't stop me buying a Mac Mini when my next paycheque (as opposed to paycheck...!) comes in :)

colbris
15th April 2010, 06:46 AM
The prices stated in USA on any product DO NOT include local and national sales tax once converted to Aus dollards add 10% plus small up charge for freight etc and it should be close

kevinnugent
15th April 2010, 07:49 AM
Tell me about it! A number of times I have gone to pay for something and been taken aback when they told me it was $XX more than I was expecting. Still, it won't stop me buying a Mac Mini when my next paycheque (as opposed to paycheck...!) comes in :)

I love how some restaurants include a 18% "service charge" on the bill and yet still expect a tip.

DanGleibitz
15th April 2010, 08:07 AM
I paid $800 on ebay for the 16GB model which was already in Aus. I think it's incredible value at that price and couldn't be happier. :)

mcargy08
15th April 2010, 08:34 AM
I paid $800 on ebay for the 16GB model which was already in Aus. I think it's incredible value at that price and couldn't be happier. :)


+1. Paid $796.50 for mine ! Especially now that the international release has been delayed for another month!

DanGleibitz
15th April 2010, 08:43 AM
And when people ask "did you get it for a good price?" I reply "Heck no, I paid $150 more than it will sell for here."
"Oh. Okay. So... how much? If it's not a rude question?"
"Eight hundred dollars."
"Serious? Is that all? Can you get me one?"

If this thing retails for $650, it's going to be really, really big.

digoxin
15th April 2010, 09:04 AM
I was fortunate enough and got mine for $560 on ebay early on. The real killer is postage. $55 which I guess is like paying GST.

led-zep
15th April 2010, 09:57 AM
for those that purchased on ebay, what sellers and do you have any links? im after the 16gb wifi version

DanGleibitz
15th April 2010, 10:28 AM
No, my seller is all sold out.

iTy
15th April 2010, 10:37 AM
+1. Paid $796.50 for mine ! Especially now that the international release has been delayed for another month!

Fark! Makes me think that buying my 32 Gb for $850 AUD inc postage was a bargain.

ipwn
15th April 2010, 10:59 AM
Based on those prices I'd probably not bother. I dont believe they are even close to good value for money at that price.

If you compare that to the price of outright iPhone's its great value.

Balthazar
15th April 2010, 11:04 AM
I know this forum is not a good cross section of the public but going on this thread alone youd expect everyone is curled up in the featal position like a crack addict coming down thanks to the delay,

It will be here soon guys, patience!

You will feel at least a little bit silly spending so much in a month and a bit when it arrives and is only $650 (or maybe less looking at the mbp price drops recently)

Edit
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I would, not sure about the rest of you

DanGleibitz
15th April 2010, 11:56 AM
You will feel at least a little bit silly spending so much in a onthand a bit when it arrives and is only $650 (or maybe less looking at the mbp price drops recently)

Why? I've waited 25 years for this device, and miracle of miracles, now it's finally here. I want it. I wouldn't care if it cost $2,000, I would still buy it, and wouldn't feel the least bit silly for doing so. So why would I feel silly for not waiting 2+ months to save $150?

$150! That's a couple of hours overtime... I'd feel a bit pathetic if I was so tight I'd wait. Not to mention crying about it on the internet. ;-P

You folks do have jobs, right?

colbris
16th April 2010, 10:08 PM
499USD = 535AUD, so for a US iPad, no matter what the AUDM iPad price will be, 265 is a Large markup to me.

$499 DOES NOT include Tax add 10% then $50 uplift charges ie customs freight etc and you are close to $649

Jinkst
17th April 2010, 06:30 AM
I paid $800 on ebay for the 16GB model which was already in Aus. I think it's incredible value at that price and couldn't be happier. :)

I paid $850US for my 64Gb. $910AU on the days exchange. And there were other auctions just after finishing around the $800US. Took 6 days to get here but can live with that. Still feel like you got incredible value?

Either way though you being happy with the purchase is what counts:)

Curious though, did you buy yours immediately after release?? I think prices dropped a lot after buyers found out Apple stores weren't selling out so by me waiting a few days before my auction I got a better deal.