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MTBlogBot2000
10th March 2010, 11:18 AM
<img src="http://www.mactalk.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/manhattan2.png" alt="manhattan2" title="manhattan2" width="300" height="186" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-5584" />First of all, I just wanna say a huge <strong>thank you</strong> to everyone who has wished me well and shown their support for this crazy idea either on Twitter, via email, or on the forums. Makes me feel a little less nutso. Many people have said that they wish they could go, so hopefully, they can live a little through me and Pete and I can make the journey interesting enough :)

I've booked a hotel and adjusted our flights out of NY to the 4th of April, giving Pete and I a full day of iPad shopping. It made a big dent in the costs (an extra $200 per person to pay for the flight change and an extra night of accommodation), which hits a bit harder, particularly when this is coming all out of our own pockets. But it'll be worth it to fulfil our nerd tendencies, and to see what is apparently, the most amazing city in the world.

There's also been a lot of questions asked towards me, that I think are best answered all at once up here on the blog instead of me answering everyone individually, which gets a bit tiring. <!--more-->

<strong>When do you plan on lining up for the iPads at the 5th Avenue Store?</strong>
It mainly depends how other fellow Apple nerd wants to handle it - I want to be first, but I'm not going to spend a week on the street. Most I'll sleep out is one night <em>(so Friday 2nd April night - iPad goes on sale Sat 3rd of April)</em>. Hopefully I don't run up against <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Packer">Greg Packer</a>, professional liner-upper guy.

<strong>How will you be able to buy so many iPads - what if Apple puts a limit on how many you can buy?</strong>
It really depends again, on how Apple want to play this. We're hoping Apple will be kind and let us buy perhaps 5 each, from each store. The plan is to hit up 5th Ave store first, then the Upper West Side store, then the West 14th Street store, then the SoHo store. There's noises of Best Buy and other Apple resellers having the iPad on launch day, so we can scout out those locations as well. The main thing we need to do is be on the Apple website on the 12th of March to reserve the iPads.

Hopefully due to it not being released anywhere but the US, stock isn't a problem and all the Apple stores in NY aren't sold out of iPads within an hour. I guess we'll just have to wait and see!

There are going to be a few other MacTalkers in NY at the same time, that will hopefully be able to help out. If you're gonna be in NY on the 3rd of April and wanna help us snag some iPads for Apple loving Aussies, or even just to say hi, <a href="http://mactalk.com.au/iwannatalktoanthony">let me know.</a>

<strong>What's the deal with Customs? Won't bringing in so many iPads into Australia look suspicious? You wanna end up on Border Security dude?!</strong>
I called up Customs to check what their stance is and they said that as long as I pay the duty (5%) and GST (10%) that they won't have any problems. Their main concern is restricted & illegal items - iPads are harmless in the scheme of things. I will have all the receipts for the items purchased as well.

<strong>Where are you staying in NY?</strong>
Pete hasn't found his accommodation yet (so any cheap tips for him are welcome). I am staying at the <a href="http://www.hudsonhotel.com/">Hudson Hotel</a> in the Upper Westside of Manhattan. Let it be known that Manhattan hotels are not cheap :(

<strong>Is there still space in your baggage for an iPad to be purchased for me?</strong>
Yes! So far 13 people have paid, so the sooner you pay, the earlier up the list you go. Just <a href="http://mactalk.com.au/iwannatalktoanthony">send me an email</a> and I'll reply back with the info.

<strong>You aren't gonna get your passport in time son!</strong>
I know I'm cutting it close, but if I pay the priority processing fee (meaning my passport will be close to $300, ugh!), I should have it well before I leave Melbourne on the 26th of March. I boned up my appointment yesterday by leaving the original copy of my brith certificate on the photocopier (for about 20 minutes I was freaked out and ready to cancel all my bank accounts and credit cards, hah), so I'm going back in today (in about 2 hours actually), and hopefully have it all sent off ASAP.

<strong>New York is an amazing city, make sure you see the city, not just the Apple Stores!</strong>
I'll have a solid 6 days to explore NYC as much as I can, I promise it won't all be Apple related (though there will be a lot of that). If you have any tips for things to see and do in NYC, please let me know!

<strong>Enjoy the LAX to NYC transfer.</strong>
Stop scaring me :(

<strong>Get travel insurance and baggage insurance - don't want those iPads to break!</strong>
Luckily, my credit card has some quite good insurance for flights purchased with it. I've looked at the T&C's for the insurance (a fun read, I assure you) and it seems like if anything happens to the luggage, I'm covered and if I'm in an emergency, I'll be covered well too. There's actually a lot of surprising things in there, like if the flight is delayed more than 4 hours, I can claim up to AU$200 for a hotel, food, etc.

<strong>When are you leaving/arriving?</strong>
Here's my flight itinerary for those interested: http://grab.by/2WS9 - feel free to say bon voyage at the airport, heh.

<strong>I wanna help you out - what can I do?</strong>
If you know someone in the media, or have a blog or Twitter account, let people know about the trip, that would help immensely :)

My next post in a few days time will be about any iPhone apps I'm using and tech stuff I'm taking with me. If you have any ideas or suggestions, pop a comment up on the forums! There will also be a quick post by <a href="http://twitter.com/fulltimecasual">Pete</a> to explain himself and what he's doing.

El Guardo
10th March 2010, 11:38 AM
Talk about taking one for the team. Godspeed gentlemen. ;)

gikku
10th March 2010, 11:53 AM
sensational effort. :)
you'll get a huge buzz out of NY, amazing city, the pace, the energy, the people, the activity, the size of the joint blows you away. and then you think just to get there I had to transfer through LA also, wow!
It really just helps to put Sydney and Melbourne into perspective.

pic of NY is more than 9yrs old, just saying. :(

decryption
10th March 2010, 11:57 AM
sensational effort. :)
you'll get a huge buzz out of NY, amazing city, the pace, the energy, the people, the activity, the size of the joint blows you away.
It really just helps to put Sydney and Melbourne into perspective.

pic of NY is more than 9yrs old, just saying. :(

I liked the skyline better with the WTC in it :(

QueenOfSwords
10th March 2010, 12:08 PM
Pete - I stayed at the Pod Hotel in 07, it was relatively cheap, clean and non-scary. Check it out - its reasonably close to the Apple Cube.

kevinnugent
10th March 2010, 12:53 PM
A, if you haven't already paid for the Hudson then check out airbnb.com
you guys could get a 2 bed apartment for that money. The Hudsons location is brilliant though.

tcimac
10th March 2010, 12:58 PM
Pete may have made an in joke at my YMCA comment on the "Fat Kid" post, but in all seriousness it is a cheap option.

Single bed room with a semi private bath is about $115 per night or a shared bath (cubicle type showers & toilets on the one floor of the hotel - just like at a caravan park) is about $92 per night. Admittedly I stayed there 10 years ago, but it was clean, mostly other travelers on a budget, cable tv, air con, and it is in a great location. Just next to central park on the upper west side, near the Lincoln Center.

Believe me - all you will do there is sleep, in fact you will do that at any hotel you stay at. There is too much to do in NYC to waste hanging out at your hotel.

Check it out (http://www.ymcanyc.org/west-side/guest-rooms/accommodations/)

EDIT: I just realised the YMCA West Side is about 5 blocks from the Hudson, so basically same location. Bear this in mind 1 block in NYC especially between numbers (62nd to 63rd) is about the same distance as between Bourke & little Bourke Street in Melbourne

ozerus
10th March 2010, 01:10 PM
Don't worry about the LAX transfer, LAX isn't that bad and they should tell you on the plane where you'll need to go also. If you just take your time and make sure to ask people where your going you'll get there fine.

dictate
10th March 2010, 01:16 PM
NYC tip.

Catch a limo everywhere. You will see them outside offices/hotels hanging around for their bosses, offer them some cash and you can go by limo around the city instead of cash.

archi
10th March 2010, 01:21 PM
Wow this is Awesome. I hope you both have a great time. Will be interesting listening to the stories when you get back. Hope you are not too much out of pocket Anthony!

bennettnz
10th March 2010, 01:41 PM
New Yorkers are loud but that doesn't mean they are trying to get in your face or being aggressive - it's just the way they are... takes some getting used to. The NY subway is a quick way to get around... the tough looking gang kids are not for laughing at... unlike in Australia. The kind of humour we use in the south pacific will not generally be understood over there so don't use too many "cuss-words" or "use the lords name in vain". LAX is not that terrible but it is possibly the worst welcome you'll receive in any foreign country but once you're through cutsoms it's like any big airport - just don't dilly dally and make sure you know where your departure gate is - hint it may not be very close by (they sometimes put you on busses to get there). Don't forget to tip the hotel staff, taxi drivers, hair dressers, especially bar/restaurant staff. If you think you are a little overweight now just wait until you spend 6 days eating the huge portions of crap that cost next to nothing over there. You'll need to book an extra seat for your USA sized arse. Otherwise you will love it.

thats awesome
10th March 2010, 02:50 PM
Remember to take off your shoes and bend over at LAX. I'm only joking about one of those things.

empire state observatory - amazingly beautiful.

MOMA & national history museum - best you'll ever visit.

Guggenheim - one of the most beautiful architecture pieces i have ever laid eyes (and hands and feet) on.

Enjoy the trip

wolfie
10th March 2010, 03:07 PM
Is the 3g version available to buy when your there? Or wifi models only?

birdseed
10th March 2010, 03:08 PM
I understand the draw to the NY store, however did you not consider a shorter trip to Hawaii? They have three Apple stores and a few half decent beaches.

Could have saved yourself a bit of money....

Just a thought.

decryption
10th March 2010, 03:08 PM
Is the 3g version available to buy when your there? Or wifi models only?

Wi-fi only. 3G model doesn't come out until late-April.

drzeus
10th March 2010, 03:24 PM
Wi-fi only. 3G model doesn't come out until late-April.

Anthony, I've got a feeling you will keep your wifi iPad for a few weeks and then decide that you want the 3G version as well :) he he he you know the nerd in you will agree :p

kevinnugent
10th March 2010, 03:33 PM
I understand the draw to the NY store, however did you not consider a shorter trip to Hawaii? They have three Apple stores and a few half decent beaches.

Could have saved yourself a bit of money....

Just a thought.



This is more a pilgremage than a shopping trip. And there's no messy sand in NYC. ;)

mallo
10th March 2010, 03:40 PM
I understand the draw to the NY store, however did you not consider a shorter trip to Hawaii? They have three Apple stores and a few half decent beaches.

Could have saved yourself a bit of money....

Just a thought.

i think i remember ant saying elsewhere that when investigating, MELB to LA was cheaper than MELB to HAWAII (his orig destination was going to be LA).

Not sure if NY is still cheaper...

MrJesseRoss
10th March 2010, 03:43 PM
I understand the draw to the NY store, however did you not consider a shorter trip to Hawaii? They have three Apple stores and a few half decent beaches.

Could have saved yourself a bit of money....

Just a thought.


i think i remember ant saying elsewhere that when investigating, MELB to LA was cheaper than MELB to HAWAII (his orig destination was going to be LA).

Not sure if NY is still cheaper...

iPad availability is also bound to be greater in New York than Hawaii.

decryption
10th March 2010, 03:55 PM
Yeah, Melb to LA is cheaper than Melb to Hawaii. Melb to NY is a bit more (about $100 each way) expensive than LA.

Alessiman
10th March 2010, 04:07 PM
Anthony,

Have you used Hotwire and betterbidding to book your hotel?

I got the Sheraton Times Square for $US117 a night last year, and using the two websites I've been 6 for 6 on hotel before payment

iJohn
10th March 2010, 04:31 PM
Good work Anth

visional_studios
10th March 2010, 04:43 PM
Buy your accommodation using priceline.com (bid on hotels) and betterbidding.com (tells you what the going rates are) - you'll save an absolute fortune on accommodation.

kevinnugent
10th March 2010, 04:55 PM
A couple of housekeeping questions that will be critical to the
success of this mission:

Based on previous launches, what time will Apple open up the website for pre orders and reservations on the 12th? 12.01am Cupertino time?

And what time will the NYC stores be opening on the 3rd?

Comet
10th March 2010, 06:07 PM
I seriously would recommend that you search outside of Manhattan for cheaper/reasonable accommodation. I heard the holiday inn just on the other side of east river is quite good and reasonably priced. I just checked in its about $151/night for 2 queen beds and is only a block away from the subway station. I'm sure you'll find something cheaper on priceline for the same hotel

Holiday Inn LONG ISLAND CITY Hotels &#124; L.I. CITY-MANHATTAN VIEW &#124; Welcome (http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/pc/1/en/hotel/lgali?rpb=rate&ias=y)

You can also look on the other side of the Hudson.

jeremy_warnock
10th March 2010, 06:12 PM
Mr D make sure you & fulltime take a night chopper flight over the city.

And instead of going to ellis island just catch the statton island ferry it cost less then a dollar and you get a much nicer view of the lady

decryption
10th March 2010, 06:21 PM
Mr D make sure you & fulltime take a night chopper flight over the city.

Oh shit yeah!
Just like in GTA4.

Have you done it?

bluedog242
10th March 2010, 08:44 PM
I can't believe that you not going check Apple HQ and SF on the way NYC

Peter Wells
10th March 2010, 10:12 PM
Pete may have made an in joke at my YMCA comment on the "Fat Kid" post, but in all seriousness it is a cheap option.

Hey, yeah, i just couldn't help but go for the YMCA joke. But I am considering it. I was in NY last September and saw a few places... Just trying to decide whether i can afford a decent hotel, or whether i should do the Hostel option.

I was planning on staying at the Chelsea backpackers, but they're already booked out! Shame, cos everyone I met raved about it:

Chelsea International Hostel Backpacker Hostel in New York – USA – North America (http://www.hostelnewyork.com/availability.php/HostelNumber.801)


If i can handle a hostel, i'll stay with Jazz Hostels, which were really clean and friendly.

Jazz Hostels in New York City, Miami, Montreal - South Beach and New York Hostels (http://www.jazzhostels.com/)

Anyhoo, i'll read the rest of the thread now... :)

dolbinau
10th March 2010, 10:25 PM
I am going to NY April 2nd but I have an hour between my LAX and NY flight - from the same terminal. Should I be worried?

Devil
10th March 2010, 11:23 PM
What happens if Apple doesn't deliver on time? What if they delay it by a week last minute? I'll stress about that for you even though I can't see it happening :-)

Alessiman
11th March 2010, 12:20 AM
Just had a look at the dates for your trip.

Club Quarters in SOHO (near the other apple store) is 126 a night for the time your there

It's 3.5 stars and gets good reviews on TA

Clean, affordable and convenient - Review of Club Quarters Downtown, New York City, NY - TripAdvisor (http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g60763-d217623-r55126491-Club_Quarters_Downtown-New_York_City_New_York.html#CHECK_RATES_CONT)

I love CQ (stayed in CQ midtown in 2007).

Thats just one of many options you have for NYC

happyfrappy
11th March 2010, 03:17 AM
What a crazy travel decision to buy iPads. If you do plan to shop, I'd suggest traveling light and buy certain items when you arrive(ex: soap, shampoo, etc). Better to cut down the amount of unpacking when you get into the hotel room. For tech gear shop at J&R, they carry almost anything you can think of... including firewire memory card readers :)

hmm, quite tempting to visit NYC to take pictures of Anthony waiting in line for an iPad and drooling while I eat a tasty chicken parm sub ;)


The kind of humour we use in the south pacific will not generally be understood over there so don't use too many "cuss-words" or "use the lords name in vain".

That applies more for south of the Mason Dixon Line as they'd wash your mouth out with soap and hand you a bible :laugh:
Northerners are less sensitive about swearing.

Macjorsh
11th March 2010, 07:16 AM
Dont forget to visit Nintendo World.
Nintendo World Store (http://www.nintendoworldstore.com)
10 Rockefeller Plaza
New York

decryption
11th March 2010, 08:17 AM
NYC tip.

Catch a limo everywhere. You will see them outside offices/hotels hanging around for their bosses, offer them some cash and you can go by limo around the city instead of cash.

Will keep that in mind :)


Wow this is Awesome. I hope you both have a great time. Will be interesting listening to the stories when you get back. Hope you are not too much out of pocket Anthony!

Thanks!


New Yorkers are loud but that doesn't mean they are trying to get in your face or being aggressive - it's just the way they are... takes some getting used to. The NY subway is a quick way to get around... the tough looking gang kids are not for laughing at... unlike in Australia. The kind of humour we use in the south pacific will not generally be understood over there so don't use too many "cuss-words" or "use the lords name in vain". LAX is not that terrible but it is possibly the worst welcome you'll receive in any foreign country but once you're through customs it's like any big airport - just don't dilly dally and make sure you know where your departure gate is - hint it may not be very close by (they sometimes put you on busses to get there). Don't forget to tip the hotel staff, taxi drivers, hair dressers, especially bar/restaurant staff. If you think you are a little overweight now just wait until you spend 6 days eating the huge portions of crap that cost next to nothing over there. You'll need to book an extra seat for your USA sized arse. Otherwise you will love it.

Some good tips there, particularly for the subway ;)


Buy your accommodation using priceline.com (bid on hotels) and betterbidding.com (tells you what the going rates are) - you'll save an absolute fortune on accommodation.

I used priceline to get the hotel I'm staying at


What a crazy travel decision to buy iPads. If you do plan to shop, I'd suggest traveling light and buy certain items when you arrive(ex: soap, shampoo, etc). Better to cut down the amount of unpacking when you get into the hotel room. For tech gear shop at J&R, they carry almost anything you can think of... including firewire memory card readers :)

hmm, quite tempting to visit NYC to take pictures of Anthony waiting in line for an iPad and drooling while I eat a tasty chicken parm sub ;)



That applies more for south of the Mason Dixon Line as they'd wash your mouth out with soap and hand you a bible :laugh:
Northerners are less sensitive about swearing.

Feel free to come and say hi!


Dont forget to visit Nintendo World.
Nintendo World Store (http://www.nintendoworldstore.com)
10 Rockefeller Plaza
New York

Ooh, thanks for that, I will visit and bring back some Nintendo stuff for my partner :)

iJohn
11th March 2010, 08:20 AM
Dont forget to visit Nintendo World.
Nintendo World Store (http://www.nintendoworldstore.com)
10 Rockefeller Plaza
New York

How coool.... looks like an apple store decore

scar68
11th March 2010, 08:33 AM
A lot of people spend a LOT of time lining up to get up the top of the Empire State Building. It can take literally hours to get to the 85th floor observation deck.

If you can get there when it opens, you will have less of a wait.

An alternative especially at night is to go to the "Top of the Rock" at Rockefeller Plaza.

TOP OF THE ROCK (http://www.topoftherocknyc.com/)

In my experience it takes far less time and still gives stunning views. The best time is late evening because you get to see the Empire State all lit up as well as all the other amazing sites. You can also pre-book for a specific time which means even less waiting.

If you haven't ever been outside of Aus before Decryption, your head may well explode.

NYC is an astounding experience.:cool:

walexx
11th March 2010, 03:57 PM
I was in NY a few week ago, I soo wanna go back. A mate of mine is gonna be there launch weekend, so Im thinking of pre-ordering and then just getting him to collect it for me.

Hmmmmm Im actually off that weekend...... Damn, I wanna go too now lol........

decryption
11th March 2010, 03:59 PM
Hmmmmm Im actually off that weekend...... Damn, I wanna go too now lol........

The more the merrier!

tcimac
11th March 2010, 06:47 PM
17,000 klms to buy an iPad... you may as weel do something just as crazy and check out this great Melbourne band while you are there

ELECTRIC MARY (http://www.myspace.com/electricmary)
29/03/2010 8:00 PM
ARLENE’S GROCERY
95 Stanton Street, MANHATTAN, New York
Cost: T.B.C
SHOWCASING ELECTRIC MARY

leon
11th March 2010, 07:14 PM
What happens if you get robbed/mugged and lose all of the iPads? Will travel insurance cover you?

snark
11th March 2010, 07:23 PM
What happens if you get robbed/mugged and lose all of the iPads? Will travel insurance cover you?

Yes, I was wondering the same thing. Do you have a plan for storing / securing your goodies? You wouldn't want to have your loot nicked while you were sleeping / sightseeing / partying.

decryption
11th March 2010, 07:25 PM
What happens if you get robbed/mugged and lose all of the iPads? Will travel insurance cover you?

I have insurance for up to $2,500 for things I have purchased with the card and have lost or had stolen.

I have insurance for everything else - I wonder if there is specific insurance for lost/stolen/damaged items (up to around $30,000).


Yes, I was wondering the same thing. Do you have a plan for storing / securing your goodies? You wouldn't want to have your loot nicked while you were sleeping / sightseeing / partying.

The hotel room is pretty safe - I plan on buying iPads, then dropping them off at the hotel, then buying more, dropping them off, etc. I fly out the day after I buy them.

fompsweeva
12th March 2010, 06:25 AM
Eat a lot of pizza. (it's cheap.)

Go to Krif Dog and have a bacon wrapped hot dog.

Beware of sidewalk giros - I was very sick from one vendor.

u98925
12th March 2010, 09:54 AM
How about a visit to M&M World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M&M%27s_World)?

decryption
13th March 2010, 12:13 AM
I've reserved 16 iPads (2 at each Manhattan store, for Pete and I).
Need to get my hands on a few more though. I wonder if the Apple resellers and department stores will be selling them on April 3rd?

foovo
13th March 2010, 08:12 AM
You could always reserve at the Greenwich CT store - its only a block from the station and about 57 mins each way by train from Grand Central in Manhattan. Would take 3 hours out of your day though. Classy neighbourhood.

kevinnugent
13th March 2010, 09:22 AM
Reservations need to be picked up between 9am and 3pm on the 3rd. I hope the boys can get served in 4 different stores and get between the stores in 6 hours.

Let's hope Apple go for a midnight opening.

decryption
15th March 2010, 10:47 AM
David Flynn over at APC did a little write up on my excursion :)

Melbourne Mac fan flies to US to bring back the first iPad in Australia (http://apcmag.com/melbourne-mac-fan-flies-to-us-to-bring-back-the-first-ipad-in-australia.htm)

Paris
19th March 2010, 02:48 AM
Apple will probably track the 2 per customer restriction when you checkout, make sure you have enough different email addresses and credit cards (as they attach the address to the card)...