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Janty
27th February 2010, 07:24 PM
A few people have mentioned it. I think its com up once or twice on the podcast too, the idea of getting a mifi and a wireless iPad instead of getting a 3G iPad.

Any one have much info on these devices? Whats available in Australia? Where? etc... any and all information would be great appreciated.

Thanks Guys.

kyte
27th February 2010, 07:34 PM
A few people have mentioned it. I think its com up once or twice on the podcast too, the idea of getting a mifi and a wireless iPad instead of getting a 3G iPad.

Any one have much info on these devices? Whats available in Australia? Where? etc... any and all information would be great appreciated.

Thanks Guys.

Internode were selling, so are Virgin... but I don't know if you can buy one without also committing to a plan with those companies.

I was thinking about importing from OS, to get a NextG compatible model. But I am not now totally devoted to being with Telstra for mobile BB

decryption
27th February 2010, 07:41 PM
Internode were selling, so are Virgin... but I don't know if you can buy one without also committing to a plan with those companies.

I was thinking about importing from OS, to get a NextG compatible model. But I am not now totally devoted to being with Telstra for mobile BB

Dunno why you need to buy from overseas to get a NextG one? As far as I know, as soon as the 3G models are available, they'll be sold directly in the usual Apple channels, unlocked and outright - slide in your own SIM.

Janty
27th February 2010, 08:19 PM
I think Kyte was referring to a mifi dongle not an iPad.

decryption
27th February 2010, 08:20 PM
Ahhh, don't I like silly now, hah

Novatel to makes an 850mhz version. (http://www.novatelwireless.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=298:mifi-2372-intelligent-mobile-hotspot-for-hspa-networks-for-north-america&catid=75:mifi&Itemid=622)

But it's close to $500 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Novatel-Wireless-MiFi-2372-Mobile-Hotspot-For-UMTS-HSPA_W0QQitemZ120535623651QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item1c107ba7e3#ht_4275wt_941) :(

Janty
27th February 2010, 08:29 PM
Hmph... well thats annoying..

Are there many other options... Im currently in tokyo, but leave on Monday. Maybe I can pick something up here.

decryption
27th February 2010, 08:35 PM
Hmph... well thats annoying..

Are there many other options... Im currently in tokyo, but leave on Monday. Maybe I can pick something up here.

You can get one here in Australia for $199 from Virgin (http://www.virginmobile.com.au/Shop/ProductSummary/4170/Prepaid-Mobile-Broadband-WiFi-Modem), but it's locked to Virgin and their shitty Optus network.

Internode (http://www.internode.on.net/residential/broadband/3g_wireless/nodemobile_data/hardware/mifi/) sell one unlocked, that will work on 2100mhz networks (Optus, 3, Vodafone), it is $349.

Beware that what you purchase in Japan, probably won't work in Australia. It needs to support UMTS & HSPA on the 850Mhz (Telstra) or 2100Mhz (everyone else) or networks.

matthew858
27th February 2010, 08:44 PM
Well as long as you buy the MiFi 2372 from Japan you're fine, but the 2352 you can buy in Australia.

marc
27th February 2010, 09:07 PM
I'm also interested in MiFi. Sounds like a handy thing to have, even to give access to a couple of laptops.

kevinnugent
27th February 2010, 09:23 PM
There's a few unlocked ones on eBay. UK models.

kyte
28th February 2010, 07:33 AM
Ahhh, don't I like silly now, hah

Novatel to makes an 850mhz version. (http://www.novatelwireless.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=298:mifi-2372-intelligent-mobile-hotspot-for-hspa-networks-for-north-america&catid=75:mifi&Itemid=622)

But it's close to $500 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Novatel-Wireless-MiFi-2372-Mobile-Hotspot-For-UMTS-HSPA_W0QQitemZ120535623651QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item1c107ba7e3#ht_4275wt_941) :(

Damn. That model would be more useful because it covers both the networks I am interested in: ie Telstra and Voda, (and Voda is looking like the best option at the moment, depending on overall reliability)

DeKa
28th February 2010, 08:40 AM
covers both the networks I am interested in: ie Telstra and Voda, (and Voda is looking like the best option at the moment, depending on overall reliability)

Sort of ... sure, it'll work really well with Telstra NextG, given it's got 850mhz UMTS but it doesn't have 900mhz UMTS which you need for Vodafone outside the capital cities.

http://www.novatelwireless.com/pdf/MiFi2372Datasheet.pdf

The MiFi2372 has:
Tri-band HSUPA/HSDPA - 850/1900/2100 MHz (Telstra NextG, 3 (3GIS), Optus (mainly CBD), Vodafone (mainly CBD)).
Quad-band GPRS/EDGE - 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (Telstra have Edge nationwide, as do Vodafone in the country, wherever they have 900mhz UMTS).

kyte
1st March 2010, 05:17 AM
Sort of ... sure, it'll work really well with Telstra NextG, given it's got 850mhz UMTS but it doesn't have 900mhz UMTS which you need for Vodafone outside the capital cities.

http://www.novatelwireless.com/pdf/MiFi2372Datasheet.pdf

The MiFi2372 has:
Tri-band HSUPA/HSDPA - 850/1900/2100 MHz (Telstra NextG, 3 (3GIS), Optus (mainly CBD), Vodafone (mainly CBD)).
Quad-band GPRS/EDGE - 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (Telstra have Edge nationwide, as do Vodafone in the country, wherever they have 900mhz UMTS).

Given various threads on vodafone at whirlpool, I think I am going to be giving it a miss. Telstra it is, when the time comes... I'm still undecided about whether to do iPad or keep my netbook. (or do both, of course, in which case MiFi is an essential, for flexibility)

Devil
2nd March 2010, 11:15 AM
I've heard that there is an HTC handset that can provide the same functionality as the MiFi and is available on Telstra. Would it drop the internet connection if the phone rings?

Can a jailbroken iPhone give me MiFi functionality? I wouldn't want to hack an iPhone normally, but if I get a new iPhone, the old one could be dedicated to this purpose?

kyte
2nd March 2010, 06:01 PM
Can a jailbroken iPhone give me MiFi functionality?

Don't think so but I haven't been keeping track. If so... I won't bother with mifi either, since I've been jailbreaking since day 1

DeKa
2nd March 2010, 07:09 PM
I've heard that there is an HTC handset that can provide the same functionality as the MiFi and is available on Telstra. Would it drop the internet connection if the phone rings?


Lots of Nokias can too, on 3, using an 3-supplied app called 3Spot: Three - Mobile Broadband - Modems - Modems - Mobile as a modem - 3Spot Application (http://www.three.com.au/3spot)
It's a customised version of JoikuSpot (http://www.joikuspot.com/aboutJoikuSpot.php)

I used to use it with my wife's Nokia, and our two laptops when we were travelling. It was great!

kyte
20th March 2010, 07:06 AM
Given that I have a netbook, I decided to spend some dosh, get a usb dongle (not mifi) to see how the various networks are performing in Newcastle. Went to an allphones because it was closest geographically to me, and find to my delight, that Virgin Broadband appears to have lifted its game somewhat. I say somewhat because there are still congestion issues at times, but I can't actually think of a time that it will matter. In the evenings, I'm home and on my ADSL. In the daytime there doesnt seem to be a problem.

The upshot is that I am thinking, all things being equal, I probably won't go with Telstra for access after all. Its going to be a MiFi, and purchased from Virgin. $199 plus a recharge in excess of $80 gets the unlock, as far as I can see it costs the same for unlock whether its a dongle or a mifi.

Perhaps the cost would be the same, if I bought a 3G iPad, but the mifi is going to let me make the decision about which bit of kit to use. iphone, netbook, ipad... a 3G model is self limiting and I'll still have to have data for the other items.

MiFi all the way, IMO.

ozron
20th March 2010, 09:03 AM
Keep in mind that the wi-fi only iPad, from what I've read, will not have the GPS functionality. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that will only be enabled in the GPS iPad. I can see that could be very useful with Google maps, let alone TomTom etc.

Cybix
20th March 2010, 10:36 AM
I have the Virgin (huawei) 3G/wifi device, and it's brilliant. It works on 900/2100Mhz, so it's ideal for the Optus network.

I think saying 'the optus network is shitty' is a bit steep, it's improved remarkably in the last 12 months, and seems to be only getting better. I regularly get 4Mb/s download speeds with my device on the network, in most metro areas. Sure if you are travelling country, you are probably better off with NextG.

The device is easy to use, lasts 4-6hours on a charge, and happily sit's in your bag/pocket/whatever while you connect to the net and do your thing.

I was only going to get the wifi iPad myself, but now I'm not sure. As mentioned above, I think I'd like GPS functionality in my iPad. I'll need to decide if I'll use it or not.

I paid $199 for the Huawei device, and topped it up with a 10GB ($150) recharge, then unlocked it. It now works on any compatible network. (have tested). I think you can re-charge it with $80 and obtain an unlock code. Was hard to beat 10GB for $150, with 365 day expiry.... I was just so sick of managing recharges, etc all the time.

Very happy with the performance of the network here (W.A)

I used it recently about 300km east of perth (wheatbelt) and managed 2Mb/s download speeds (I assume on 900Mhz), as my iPhone (2100Mhz) couldn't get 3G at all.

kyte
20th March 2010, 05:07 PM
Keep in mind that the wi-fi only iPad, from what I've read, will not have the GPS functionality. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that will only be enabled in the GPS iPad. I can see that could be very useful with Google maps, let alone TomTom etc.

I don't see that as a limitation. I've got my iphone and can't see a need for GPS in the iPad if you already have iPhone with it. Am I wrong?

kyte
20th March 2010, 05:13 PM
I paid $199 for the Huawei device, and topped it up with a 10GB ($150) recharge, then unlocked it. It now works on any compatible network. (have tested). I think you can re-charge it with $80 and obtain an unlock code. Was hard to beat 10GB for $150, with 365 day expiry.... I was just so sick of managing recharges, etc all the time.


Thats exactly my plan. I'm still going to unlock the dongle because I also want to test vodafone in this area... slightly better value if it works, does rollover like Telstra does (Virgin expires at 30 days with no rollover, doesnt it?) and also includes some free texts as well. The 365 day option is 12G for $149. another significant difference which might be a consideration is that both Telstra and Virgin count data use in 1k increments, Vodafone counts in 1Mb increments and good old Optus counts in 10Mb increments. Thats why T and V are topping my list at the moment.

hobbsy101
20th March 2010, 08:02 PM
Can a jailbroken iPhone give me MiFi functionality? I wouldn't want to hack an iPhone normally, but if I get a new iPhone, the old one could be dedicated to this purpose?

Yes there is. It's called MyWi and I have it on my 2G which I will use for my WiFi iPad when I get it. I've already used it for my eee and it works fantastic

Wally
21st March 2010, 10:09 AM
Thats exactly my plan. I'm still going to unlock the dongle because I also want to test vodafone in this area... slightly better value if it works, does rollover like Telstra does (Virgin expires at 30 days with no rollover, doesnt it?) and also includes some free texts as well. The 365 day option is 12G for $149. another significant difference which might be a consideration is that both Telstra and Virgin count data use in 1k increments, Vodafone counts in 1Mb increments and good old Optus counts in 10Mb increments. Thats why T and V are topping my list at the moment.


eBay has some cheap unlocked Huawei Mifi (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220571558290&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT) devices, you do need windows to first upgrade the firmware to get a web interface, however that was fairly simple. I however thought I bricked mine, but its now working great!

laughingbird
21st March 2010, 10:14 AM
Can a jailbroken iPhone give me MiFi functionality? I wouldn't want to hack an iPhone normally, but if I get a new iPhone, the old one could be dedicated to this purpose?

Yes, indeed. It is a little app called MyWi. It costs $9.99 from Rock Your Phone (http://www.rockyourphone.com/) and its details can be found here (http://www.rockyourphone.com/index.php/mywi.html?feat=y).

I've had it on my phone for some time, and it works perfectly.

eddale
21st March 2010, 09:19 PM
I just got an 850mhz unlocked version to use on Next G and to say its unreal is an understatement - here's the thing - the upload speeds are not handbraked - Im getting 2-3mb up - two to three times faster than my adsl 2 landline.

I'm not sure on the forum rules but I took some speedtest screen shots if anyone wants to see them.

Ed

scritch
27th March 2010, 04:55 PM
The MiFi 2372 has me interested, but I want to see what price the NetComm equivalent (http://www.netcommlimited.com/products/hspa-3g-routers/3g24w) called the "MyZone" comes to market at.

Regards,
Shane.

davidw89
28th March 2010, 12:29 AM
Considering the cost, you might as well fork out the extra on a 3G iPad.

scritch
28th March 2010, 07:16 AM
Considering the cost, you might as well fork out the extra on a 3G iPad.

You're assuming People only want it for the iPad. Having it for any wifi devices you have whilst travelling or on the road for work makes a MiFi-like device more versatile.

Regards,
Shane.

bullrout
28th March 2010, 07:43 AM
Having it for any wifi devices you have whilst travelling or on the road for work makes a MiFi-like device more versatile.

Regards,
Shane.

And all at the same time.

iTy
28th March 2010, 05:38 PM
The MiFi 2372 has me interested, but I want to see what price the NetComm equivalent (http://www.netcommlimited.com/products/hspa-3g-routers/3g24w) called the "MyZone" comes to market at.

Regards,
Shane.

This looks like its going to be the most useful device I buy this year :cool:

Any idea on when this will be available?

carveman
29th March 2010, 11:58 AM
You're assuming People only want it for the iPad. Having it for any wifi devices you have whilst travelling or on the road for work makes a MiFi-like device more versatile.

Regards,
Shane.

That's precisely why I have ordered a MiFi 2372. I have a Next G data plan that's paid for by work, I also have a data plan on my iPhone so I really wanted to avoid a third data plan when I get the iPad. That way I can use the Next G plan on my work laptop, my iPad, my wife's laptop, and even our iPhones for data/VoIP if we're out of Optus Coverage but in Next G range.

harrisonx
29th March 2010, 02:12 PM
The MiFi 2372 has me interested, but I want to see what price the NetComm equivalent (http://www.netcommlimited.com/products/hspa-3g-routers/3g24w) called the "MyZone" comes to market at.

That MyZone looks great. I was planning on getting their Travel Router (http://www.netcommlimited.com/products/hspa-3g-usb-routers/3gt1wn), as I already have a 3G modem. Last I checked (http://www.getprice.com.au/Netcomm-3GT1WN-Router.htm), it was about $150 - probably a little less than the 3G upgrade of the iPad, but not much.

Jaste
29th March 2010, 04:09 PM
Don McAllister has an interesting post over on his blog. He was tossing up getting a wifi vs 3G iPad so he took his 1st gen iPhone (no GPS) driving with his mifi to see if the mapping function worked. It does! Apparently the mifi has a gps in it that passes the info to the iPhone. More info on his blog (http://themacscreencastguy.com/blog/2010/3/24/mifi-gps-the-ipad.html).

iphonedev
2nd April 2010, 11:32 AM
Guys just a quick heads up.

Virgin MyFi now available for 179 comes with 2Gig Data 30 days expiry.

Tempting!

Cybix
2nd April 2010, 12:04 PM
thats a killer deal... I'd be all over it, but I already have one :)

Jesus it's handy on the train.. turn it on, leave it in my bag or pocket, use my 13" MBP, brilliant.

I've also noticed that it consumes way less MBP battery using the wifi instead of having a 3G USB dongle plugged in to the MBP directly... more power, more computing, more joy.

I suspect this would most certainly also apply to any ipod/iphone/ipad. Using 3G on these devices REALLY sucks the juice. Turn off your 3G and use WiFi only and watch your batt life :)

TieNN89
2nd April 2010, 01:09 PM
You can get one here in Australia for $199 from Virgin (http://www.virginmobile.com.au/Shop/ProductSummary/4170/Prepaid-Mobile-Broadband-WiFi-Modem), but it's locked to Virgin and their shitty Optus network.

$179 from Virgin atm with 1GB + 1GB Bonus

I'm pretty sure you can unlock it after you recharge $80

TieNN89
2nd April 2010, 01:11 PM
Guys just a quick heads up.

Virgin MyFi now available for 179 comes with 2Gig Data 30 days expiry.

Tempting!

Dam you beat me to it lol

iphonedev
2nd April 2010, 03:08 PM
Dam you beat me to it lol

:))

iphonedev
2nd April 2010, 04:08 PM
Guys just a quick heads up.

Virgin MyFi now available for 179 comes with 2Gig Data 30 days expiry.

Tempting!

Ordered mine.

kt_kez
2nd April 2010, 05:23 PM
3.75G HSPA Mobile Hotspot Novatel MiFi 2372 for Telstra - eBay 3G, External, Modems, Computers. (end time 27-Apr-10 04:36:19 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3.75G-HSPA-Mobile-Hotspot-Novatel-Wireless-MiFi-2372_W0QQitemZ160417911557QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ201 00329?IMSfp=TL100329211001r12250)

The GPS function is very tempting on this thing! But the Virgin one seems best value at the moment!

TieNN89
2nd April 2010, 09:02 PM
3.75G HSPA Mobile Hotspot Novatel MiFi 2372 for Telstra - eBay 3G, External, Modems, Computers. (end time 27-Apr-10 04:36:19 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3.75G-HSPA-Mobile-Hotspot-Novatel-Wireless-MiFi-2372_W0QQitemZ160417911557QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ201 00329?IMSfp=TL100329211001r12250)

The GPS function is very tempting on this thing! But the Virgin one seems best value at the moment!

That looks like the same unit Internode has on offer

Internode :: Residential :: Broadband :: 3G & Wireless :: NodeMobile Data :: Hardware :: MiFi (http://www.internode.on.net/residential/broadband/3g_wireless/nodemobile_data/hardware/mifi/)

chaosboi
2nd April 2010, 09:49 PM
That looks like the same unit Internode has on offer


The internode one doesn't have 850 for Telstra.

iphonedev
3rd April 2010, 11:15 AM
Guys just a quick heads up.

Virgin MyFi now available for 179 comes with 2Gig Data 30 days expiry.

Tempting!

Hi Guys,

Here's how you could get a better deal.

Harvey Norman is running special today on literally everything in their stores.

I asked for a best price and got one of these WiFi for $169,Could'nt have asked for a better deal than this.

Hope this helps

Cheers

adrianlloyd
4th April 2010, 08:59 PM
T slightly better value if it works, does rollover like Telstra does (Virgin expires at 30 days with no rollover, doesnt it?) and also includes some free texts as well. The 365 day option is 12G for $149. another significant difference which might be a consideration is that both Telstra and Virgin count data use in 1k increments, Vodafone counts in 1Mb increments and good old Optus counts in 10Mb increments. Thats why T and V are topping my list at the moment.

I think Virgin pre-paid does roll-over.

I'm actually using Exetel (resold Optus) in my Huawei E5832 (unlocked from Virgin). It is $5/month plus usage (at $15/GB charged per kb) which suits my intermittent usage patterns extremely well.

Been mostly happy with the Optus coverage and speeds - the Huawei actually makes it more useful compared to a USB dongle as you position the unit independently of your other devices (eg in the window) in order to get the best reception.

iTy
4th April 2010, 09:32 PM
3.75G HSPA Mobile Hotspot Novatel MiFi 2372 for Telstra - eBay 3G, External, Modems, Computers. (end time 27-Apr-10 04:36:19 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3.75G-HSPA-Mobile-Hotspot-Novatel-Wireless-MiFi-2372_W0QQitemZ160417911557QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ201 00329?IMSfp=TL100329211001r12250)

The GPS function is very tempting on this thing! But the Virgin one seems best value at the moment!

So what's the verdict? This Novatel, the Netcomm MyZone or the Virgin model?

Which one has the longest battery life, 802.11n, supports all telcos and can connect to the most devices?

THe Netcomm looks the best but is it the best performing? Thoughts? :cool:

TieNN89
4th April 2010, 10:28 PM
I'm actually using Exetel (resold Optus) in my Huawei E5832 (unlocked from Virgin). It is $5/month plus usage (at $15/GB charged per kb) which suits my intermittent usage patterns extremely well..

Did you notice the $0 a month plan? same deal 1.5c per MB
Except with $0 a month instead of $5
It does say "For Use In Mobile Hand Set Only" not sure why though :confused:

Paris
5th April 2010, 02:55 AM
Just reporting that I'm using my iPad WiFi with my Nexus One (via a WiFi hotspot the Nexus One is creating). Everything is working flawlessly, it's as if I have a 3G iPad.

Those planning a MiFi or similar are in for a treat!

TieNN89
5th April 2010, 09:25 AM
Between the 3g and wifi only iPads is the only difference gps and 3g
Everything else is still the same?

Paris
5th April 2010, 09:30 AM
Between the 3g and wifi only iPads is the only difference gps and 3g
Everything else is still the same?

Correct. The WiFi even still has the compass.

dwarde
5th April 2010, 04:36 PM
I recently bought an unlocked Novatel MiFi 2372 to use with my Telstra Next-G mobile broadband card ($19/month for 1gig data on Business Member Plan - 24 month contract). The performance was awesome so I upgraded to a 3gig/month for $29 so I can do more Skype, YuTube, Podcasts etc. My other SIM (Vodafone) achieves only a fraction of the Telstra speeds and latencies (even in urban HSDPA coverage areas). The Telstra 850MHz band is also long-wave enough to "blanket" and penetrate spots that the 2100MHz bands can't (those used by Optus & Vodafone for example - though they are now trying to make inroads in rural areas by rolling out their 900MHz networks).

I bought my unlocked MiFi from:*jetroam Shop - Welcome (http://shop.jetroam.com) though you can now also get similar prices from eBay. Either way, expect to pay around $300 AUD for this, which in my mind is worth the cost due to the convenience. The MiFi also has GPS hardware built-in, but I haven't personally tried to tap into that functionality yet.

If you buy, just make sure you choose the right model:

For Optus/Virgin or Vodafone: The*MiFi 2352 (uses 900 and 2100MHz for high-speed 3G)*
http://www.novatelwireless.com/pdf/MiFi2352Datsheet.pdf

For Telstra Next-G: The MiFi 2372**(uses 850 and 2100MHz for high-speed 3G, though Telstra seems to use predominantly the 850MHz band)
http://www.novatelwireless.com/pdf/MiFi2372Datasheet.pdf

The "MiFi" sold by Virgin at Dick Smith uses the 900 and 2100MHz bands and is therefore suitable for Optus & Vodafone. 3-Australia had now merged with Vodafone so I don't know what towers they use in rural areas for data (they previously roamed on Telstra's Next-G, but they may have a new deal with Vodafone now.. needs checking).

The Virgin MiFi is a lite cheaper, but it allows less concurrent users (3 compared to 5 with the Novatel MiFi) and has less security options than the Novatel. The latter is also a very handsome device, but I declare to being biased, now that I own one!!

Lastly, I found that I could attain marginally faster "real-world" data speeds by using Telstra's "Elite" USB modem, and I have tried sharing that connection via "ad-hoc" Wi-Fi sharing from a Mac, but nothing seems to beat the simplicity and convenience of the MiFi.

Hope this helps!

Ed (Melbourne, Australia)*

carveman
9th April 2010, 01:53 PM
Well the MiFi 2372 arrived safely from the Ukraine - PHEW!

My Next G SIM is at home so I haven't tested that yet, but I did put in my Optus iPhone SIM. Rudimentary testing shows that it works as advertised, and interestingly, using the Speed Test app on the iPhone, the speed was about double using the MiFi 3G modem and Wifi as compared to just using the iPhone 3g.

Interesting.

I'll post more if anything of note arises. Otherwise you can all assume it's going swimmingly.

Cybix
9th April 2010, 02:17 PM
just thought I'd chime in about the Huawei (virgin) device.

The 900Mhz Optus coverage is becoming quite excellent in country, I tested this recently and had over 2Mbp/s no probs. (in the middle of absolutely fkn no where)

I should also mention that if you so desire, you can put a different firmware on the device to unlock more security settings (firewall / NAT configuration pages), and also allow more than 3 connected wi-fi users.

I've not had a need to change from the virgin firmware yet.

Right now at my office I'm getting 2.6Mbps down, and 0.60 Mbps up. Plenty really :)

Different states may get different results. I can honestly say the Optus network in W.A is actually not bad, and getting better and better.

I'm using a 10Gig / $150 Virgin pre-paid charge up. With this I've unlocked the device so I can use other sim's if I desire (tried my optus sim, no prob).

As a back up. I have a Sierra Wireless APEX usb 3G device which works on 850Mhz if I need the Telstra coverage (haven't yet).

The Huawei (virgin) device is nice, feels nice, is small, batt life is nice, buttons are good, it's just good.

If you don't care for GPS and 3G in an iPad, get something like this.

mitty
9th April 2010, 03:16 PM
Off topic but when we played with Anthony's ipad at lunch time, we went into Maps and it positiones us exactly at the right spot (we were connect to the Fed Square Free Wifi). How did it know, if GPS isn't in the wifi only model?

MightyAtom
9th April 2010, 03:23 PM
Off topic but when we played with Anthony's ipad at lunch time, we went into Maps and it positiones us exactly at the right spot (we were connect to the Fed Square Free Wifi). How did it know, if GPS isn't in the wifi only model?

Skyhook Wireless (http://www.skyhookwireless.com/)wifi positioning. It triangulates your location based on know wifi hotspots. Works best in densely populated areas.

decryption
9th April 2010, 03:24 PM
Off topic but when we played with Anthony's ipad at lunch time, we went into Maps and it positiones us exactly at the right spot (we were connect to the Fed Square Free Wifi). How did it know, if GPS isn't in the wifi only model?

It uses Skyhook: SKYHOOK Wireless: How It Works > Overview (http://www.skyhookwireless.com/howitworks/)
It's pretty nifty - its GPS without a GPS chip. Not as accurate, but in a dense area like the CBD, its just as good.

EDIT: beaten by MightyAtom!

stevensr123
9th April 2010, 03:32 PM
Hi Guys,

Here's how you could get a better deal.

Harvey Norman is running special today on literally everything in their stores.

I asked for a best price and got one of these WiFi for $169,Could'nt have asked for a better deal than this.

Hope this helps

CheersJust get it off ebay for $115 unlocked.

Comet
9th April 2010, 05:01 PM
Just get it off ebay for $115 unlocked.
The ones off eBay don't support 3G 900mhz frequencies which are needed if you intend on using the device outside of the metro areas. Because of this, I chose to spend $179 + 15 euros to get it unlocked.

grep
9th April 2010, 07:29 PM
Well the MiFi 2372 arrived safely from the Ukraine - PHEW!


I wouldn't use that as a connection for doing internet banking :p

Keving
9th April 2010, 08:32 PM
My Wi - jail-broken, works 100%, I'm not getting a 3G version now, just not worth it to pay additional data charges, when my iPhone 3G is with me all the time anyway!

tom5955
12th April 2010, 07:03 PM
What experience do any of you have with the optus mobile broadband network compared to 3 or voda's? i'm looking between the three and dodo and virgin (both on Optus). all of them have pretty similar deals for prepaid that has credit lasting a year.

scritch
12th April 2010, 08:21 PM
So what's the verdict? This Novatel, the Netcomm MyZone or the Virgin model?

Which one has the longest battery life, 802.11n, supports all telcos and can connect to the most devices?

THe Netcomm looks the best but is it the best performing? Thoughts? :cool:


Novatel & NetComm have model options for both 850/1900/2100 & 900/1900/2100 Networks.
Virgin is 900/2100 only.
NetComm is not shipping yet - supposedly in production now for June timeframe.
There is no unit that does "world-band" UMTS (ie 850/900/1900/2100).
None of them do 802.11n - nor do they need it when Telstra are only now testing 21Mbps speeds on their NextG network and currently only doing 7.2Mbps country-wide (2-6Mbps real world). The bottleneck is the UMTS network not the WiFi.
NetComm seems the best when it comes to battery (no real-world performance tests yet), though mainly for it's ability to charge via USB whilst still working.
Novatel has the GPS functionality - I don't believe the others do.


I've ordered a MiFi 2372 (850/1900/2100) and it should be here in a day or so. Couldn't wait for the NetComm MyZone for my needs.

Regards,
Shane.

iTy
12th April 2010, 08:42 PM
Thanks for your thoughts. I might get myself a 2372 to go with my iPad. Can't wait 'till June for the Novatel

Alessiman
12th April 2010, 09:50 PM
I bought myself a Virgin E5832 unit with the free 2gig of data

I am very impressed with the speed I am getting off the optus network, even in Sydney CBD which is notorious for 3G reception

Running speed test, I'm getting around 4.5mps download which is pretty good as far as I'm concerned.

Latency sucks. But I'm not gaming :p

The other bonus is not having to pay the ridiculous $$$ hotels charge for net access

If you want a decent unit at a decent price I would recommend Virgin

DaveOZ
13th April 2010, 08:14 AM
I've ordered a MiFi 2372 which should be here any day. I already have a Bigpond 3G dongle on a 5Gb plan through work so sticking the sim into a MiFi is an ideal solution for me when travelling. I've been using the dongle in a NetComm 3G router with great success but it will be nice to have such a small, battery powered solution that I can keep in my bag and flick on when I need access away from home.

As I said, I should be here today or tomorrow and I will report back with results when I have it.

DaveOZ
13th April 2010, 08:16 AM
BTW, I got mine from here (http://shop.jetroam.com/products/novatel-wireless-mifi-2372) but it looks like they have no stock now.

DaveOZ
13th April 2010, 08:27 AM
Oh, it just arrived.

SRG
13th April 2010, 09:17 AM
DaveOz given with the Telstra Next G you need to log in to use can you just pop the sim in?

DaveOZ
13th April 2010, 09:26 AM
I could have a problem. My SIM is a Bigpond one. There is facility within the device to create a login profile and I have entered all my Bigpond username and password correctly and telstra.bigpond APN but I can't get it to connect. :(

Anyone have any ideas?

BTW, the MiFi is very nice.

DaveOZ
13th April 2010, 09:30 AM
I just stuck my Telstra SIM in from my iPhone and it works brilliantly. Must be a way of getting the Bigpond one to work.

mattatkins
13th April 2010, 09:34 AM
I could have a problem. My SIM is a Bigpond one. There is facility within the device to create a login profile and I have entered all my Bigpond username and password correctly and telstra.bigpond APN but I can't get it to connect. :(

Anyone have any ideas?

Yeah I believe that bigpond need the IMEI of the modem and IMSI of the SIM card to be regestered on their network for it to work. When the modem connects to the network. The network will look for the IMEI and IMSI that is has registered. Might be worth contacting bigpond to see if they can update it for you.

iTy
13th April 2010, 09:38 AM
I'm looking at this solution too. Maybe you need to register the device with Telstra and that's where you could gets stuck.

Every time I put the USB dongle in another machine, it asks to register.

I'll order one soon. I've pretty much decided to keep the WiFi iPad and either use a MiFi of JB my iPhone to get MyWi

Rust
13th April 2010, 09:39 AM
Let me know how you go with it as im in EXACTLY the same position as you. I have a telstra pre-paid dongle and want to purchase the MiFi model you have for my iPad and in general would be good to have this device rather than the USB dongle. Also let me know if you get good speeds with it and if it stays connected consistently (gaming/etc)?

mattatkins
13th April 2010, 09:49 AM
I ended up buying a Netcomm wifi router to plug my Bigpond modem in. Works fine battery life isnt the best though only getting about 2 hours out of it.

3GT1WN: NetComm (http://www.netcomm.com.au/netcomm-products/3g-mobile-broadband/3gt1wn)

DaveOZ
13th April 2010, 10:03 AM
Spoke to Bigpond. Can't be done. Will not add the IMIE to my account because it is not a Bigpond device.

So, the MiFi is a great device that seems to work well so far but you can't use a Bigpond SIM in it. You may have more luck with a Telstra one but I don't have one that I can try.

Looks like I will buy a Telstra prepaid data sim.

MissionMan
13th April 2010, 10:09 AM
Spoke to Bigpond. Can't be done. Will not add the IMIE to my account because it is not a Bigpond device.

So, the MiFi is a great device that seems to work well so far but you can't use a Bigpond SIM in it. You may have more luck with a Telstra one but I don't have one that I can try.

Looks like I will buy a Telstra prepaid data sim.

What do you mean? I thought Telstra and Bigpond were the same thing? Or do you mean a phone sim?

BTW, on ebay they say the Novatel one works with Bigpond so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work?

Rust
13th April 2010, 10:10 AM
Oh that sucks man :(
I've got a telstra prepaid USB dongle (MF626). So you reckon my Telstra one will work?

This NetComm 3GT1WN looks interesting as well. Didnt know that existed...Wondering wether i get a MiFi now or this Netcomm device...Advantages of that Netcomm device seem to be that you can plug any USB dongle into it without having to switch sims around...

Rust
13th April 2010, 10:13 AM
Yea the further i look into this the more i keep seeing the following fact:
"It's ok if you have a Telstra Pre-Paid Sim but it wont work if it's a Bigpond account...

DaveOZ
13th April 2010, 10:18 AM
What do you mean? I thought Telstra and Bigpond were the same thing? Or do you mean a phone sim?

Nope. Bigpond SIM is from the blue Bigpond USB dongle. There is also an orange dongle from Telstra. They work in different ways.

iTy
13th April 2010, 10:25 AM
Nope. Bigpond SIM is from the blue Bigpond USB dongle. There is also an orange dongle from Telstra. They work in different ways.

That sucks. So I'm guessing the BP sim won't work on a Jail broken iPhone either!

Rust
13th April 2010, 10:26 AM
Mine is the white USB Dongle with a blue outline. I think this sim would work. I'm in Syd if you wanna test mine in the MiFi?
Might end up going the Netcomm option though...

MissionMan
13th April 2010, 10:31 AM
Nope. Bigpond SIM is from the blue Bigpond USB dongle. There is also an orange dongle from Telstra. They work in different ways.

Grrr. Means mine probably won't work either. I have the Bigpond express card currently and was hoping I could use something like this. Means I'll probably have to jail break the iPad if I get one.

mattatkins
13th April 2010, 10:33 AM
From what I have read the Telstra prepaid sim will work ok in another device as it doesnt need to verify that the IMEI and IMSI are correct, its just the Bigpond sims that do it.

Cheers
Matt

MissionMan
13th April 2010, 10:36 AM
Is there any way you could force them to enable it? I.e. what legal reason would they have to force you to use a bigpond approved modem?

The other concern now is whether you are likely to have the same hassle with using a bigpond sim in an ipad because it hasn't been registered?

DaveOZ
13th April 2010, 10:46 AM
You will have the same problem in an iPad I assume. I'm going to cancel my Bigpond data account and just buy a Telstra prepaid data SIM.

SRG
13th April 2010, 10:47 AM
Mission I suspect they are well within their rights to control what connects to their network and via only their approved devices. From memory they don't allow you to share your USB modem via internet sharing so really don't think they will allow mifi.

Their response to any anti competative claim is that there are providers who do it and you are free to use them.

I think on balance the Virgin one will be what I get and I will just lower the plan on the Telstra USB modem as I will use it less now.

iTy
13th April 2010, 10:53 AM
I will just lower the plan on the Telstra USB modem as I will use it less now.

That's what I've done. I was on 6 Gb a month, now I'm on 1Gb for the next few months before I cancel the account completely.

Rust
13th April 2010, 10:53 AM
Or you just go for this Netcomm option and it should work:
NETCOMM 3GT1WN 3G W LESS N150 TRAVEL ROUTER (NET9625) | BetterIT Discount Price $141.66 - Direct From Australian NETCOMM Distributor To You - The Easy Way To Choose Technology & Computers - Buy Cheap Online and Save (http://www.betterit.com.au/scripts/prodview.asp?idproduct=166824)

Rust
13th April 2010, 10:55 AM
3GT1WN: NetComm (http://www.netcomm.com.au/netcomm-products/3g-mobile-broadband/3gt1wn)

Talks about the ISP's below. Plus this device is half the price of the MiFi and more flexible as it can take the faster speeds of newer modems (21MBit).

iTy
13th April 2010, 10:55 AM
You will have the same problem in an iPad I assume. I'm going to cancel my Bigpond data account and just buy a Telstra prepaid data SIM.

Let me know how you do this. Last time I tried to buy a prepaid mobile broadband sim, Telstra wouldn't allow it without buying the modem too. :(

MissionMan
13th April 2010, 10:57 AM
I guess they can't stop you using a device that takes a usb modem which effectively does exactly the same thing though. Its just one more device to carry around so its not a route I want to go.

I may play negotiations with them if I buy an iPad though. I use 5GB of bandwidth with them a month so I'll threaten to pull it if they don't add the iPad but I may try get it via a Telstra store first if it means its automatically added anyway.

The last time I had shit with them, a threat went a long way to getting what I wanted, especially if it meant losing business.

iTy
13th April 2010, 11:03 AM
3GT1WN: NetComm (http://www.netcomm.com.au/netcomm-products/3g-mobile-broadband/3gt1wn)

Talks about the ISP's below. Plus this device is half the price of the MiFi and more flexible as it can take the faster speeds of newer modems (21MBit).

Not as nice looking as the MiFis, but for half the price and up to 5 hrs battery life, I might make a compromise.

Might have to get a man bag to put the iPad, USB modem and 3GT1WN device :p

DaveOZ
13th April 2010, 11:42 AM
Well I really want a Telstra SIM for speed and coverage (I'm in the country) so I'm going to my local Telstra shop this afternoon to se what they can offer. Why do they make it so hard?

Musky
13th April 2010, 11:48 AM
Hi all, as a few of you might know I work for NetComm, so I can tell you a few things about the MyZone and the t1.

Let me know your questions and I'll do what I can to answer them. One thing I can tell you about the MyZone is that we have them in stock (I've got the packaging sitting beside me) and some of our guys have been testing them and are getting up to 8 hours battery life.

Plus it's a lot smaller than you might think :)

http://www.bulldogtheatre.com/myzone-t1.jpg

Rust
13th April 2010, 11:51 AM
Well I really want a Telstra SIM for speed and coverage (I'm in the country) so I'm going to my local Telstra shop this afternoon to se what they can offer. Why do they make it so hard?

Completely understandable argument. I travel to the country very often which is why i have to have a Telstra solution...So i can relate...
The reason that Netcomm is looking like a better option is because i can always upgrade my Telstra card to the 21MBit version and it will take advantage of the speed. The MiFi is locked to 7.2Mbit...
I might need a man bag for all this as well lol :)

Rust
13th April 2010, 11:53 AM
Oh and Telstra make it difficult and expensive because they can :)

Musky - Nice one! Thanks for those pics! It's not as big as i thought it would be...Am i correct in saying the device on the left is the 3GT1WN?

Musky
13th April 2010, 12:00 PM
Rust - The one on the left of my iPhone is the MyZone, the one on the right is the t1

DaveOZ
13th April 2010, 12:03 PM
Musky,

Does the MyZone work with my Bigpond SIM? Link to details please.

Musky
13th April 2010, 12:32 PM
Hi Dave, I asked our engineers that exact question and it looks like you'll have the same problem with any non bigpond product, the only alternative I could think of is if you have a bigpond dongle and put it into a t1 that would work (I think :))

Confirmed, one of our engineers assures me it would work.

Rust
13th April 2010, 01:13 PM
Yea that's what i read as well...It's pretty much one of the only things that will work with bigpond (the T1 i mean).

Rust
13th April 2010, 01:20 PM
The MyZone is SIM based right? It doesnt have a USB Port like the T1 right?
So for someone on Bigpond, the best solution is the T1 - for Telstra users there is the option of either one of these. I'd still lean towards the T1 over the MiFi because its USB based which means i can change carrier and not have to change the MiFi. It also means i can upgrade to the faster 21Mbit Telstra USB dongles and the T1 would take advantage of those speeds because its a proper "Wireless Router" which supports speeds of up to 150Mbit. Am i correct with these assumptions Musky? If so then i think its a no brainer for iPad WiFi buyers to go with the T1 as its cheaper and has more features than a MiFi. Sure it's a little bigger and you have to carry around 2 devices (dongle and T1) but for me personally, thats not an issue. I can just throw them in my bag.

Musky
13th April 2010, 01:20 PM
"It's pretty much one of the only things that will work with bigpond" I think I'm going to put that on the packaging, can I credit you :)

Rust
13th April 2010, 01:24 PM
LOL sure thing :)

Rust
13th April 2010, 01:46 PM
Check my post on the previous page Musky...

SRG
13th April 2010, 01:58 PM
I now have one, need to charge it up and set it up for Bigpond but a very nice little unit. Comes with a travel pouch as well. Got mine from Digiworld in La Trobe street at lunchtime (talked them down to $169 from the $199 sticker price)

Rust
13th April 2010, 02:11 PM
I now have one, need to charge it up and set it up for Bigpond but a very nice little unit. Comes with a travel pouch as well. Got mine from Digiworld in La Trobe street at lunchtime (talked them down to $169 from the $199 sticker price)

Nice one! Just bought mine online for 155 delivered. Hopefully i get it by Friday as im heading to the south coast and can test it out properly :)

Musky
13th April 2010, 02:20 PM
Engineers to the rescue! Yeah Rust everything you said about the t1 is correct, because it doesn't have a 3G module built in it just acts as a router for whatever dongle is put into it.

It's a neat little unit, definitely a good add on for a wi-fi only iPad (although I'm holding out for a MyZone :))

Alessiman
13th April 2010, 02:21 PM
Nice one! Just bought mine online for 155 delivered. Hopefully i get it by Friday as im heading to the south coast and can test it out properly :)

Are these the 850/900/1900 model?

How do you find it so far? I might get one and sell me Virgin Unit if it does :)

DaveOZ
13th April 2010, 02:21 PM
Using the Telstra NextG sim from my iphone in the MiFi I am able to get 5mbit download speed which I am happy with. Wonder if the Telstra pre-paid data sims are the same speed.

Rust
13th April 2010, 02:32 PM
Are these the 850/900/1900 model?

How do you find it so far? I might get one and sell me Virgin Unit if it does :)

Yes they are. I'm Waiting on mine to arrive but hopefully OzRacingWrap will give us the low down :)

Musky - Awesome thanks for your help and info!

DaveOz - Yes the pre-paid gets those speeds as well (it's what i'm on).

ajbeardy
13th April 2010, 02:34 PM
It's a neat little unit, definitely a good add on for a wi-fi only iPad (although I'm holding out for a MyZone :))

When is the MyZone due for release?

kevinnugent
13th April 2010, 03:00 PM
So, the best options for Vodafone AU users? I have a VF 3G dongle that has a sim in it. It costs about $20 a month from memory and is a 1gb account I think.

What's best for that?

Rust
13th April 2010, 03:10 PM
Again i'd say the T1...Because you can stick the USB dongle into it and then if you change carrier down the track to someone in a different MHz band you wont have to buy a new device. The T1 seems to be the jack of all trades...

Rust
13th April 2010, 03:12 PM
Read up about the Specs here:
3GT1WN: NetComm (http://www.netcomm.com.au/netcomm-products/3g-mobile-broadband/3gt1wn)

Look down the bottom of that page and you'll see all the devices supported...

decryption
13th April 2010, 03:21 PM
So, the best options for Vodafone AU users? I have a VF 3G dongle that has a sim in it. It costs about $20 a month from memory and is a 1gb account I think.

What's best for that?

If you can somehow unlock the device Virgin sell (http://www.virginmobile.com.au/Shop/ProductSummary/4288/WiFi-Modem-Prepaid-Mobile-Broadband), I'd use that.

Rust
13th April 2010, 03:22 PM
OK Musky, i've got another technical question. My mate at work wants to know if this device can be used at home to connect his wireless printer and Laptop. I think it would as its a WiFi network device but he just wants some confirmation before he buys...
So basically his situation is this...He has a WiFi Printer, a Laptop and a Telstra card. He wants to buy this T1 Device and plug in his Telstra card and share that internet for his laptop and iPhone and also wants to add his WiFi printer to the home network. Is this all possible with the T1 (Specifically the WiFi Printer part)?

Musky
13th April 2010, 03:24 PM
We're hoping to have the MyZone out by the end of this month/middle of May, I'm trying to get confirmation and a price.

iTy
13th April 2010, 03:36 PM
I like the MyZone, but then what am I going to do with 3 USB modems?

I think I'll be heading down the T1 path shortly. Its just that I prefer a more elegant solution with the MyZone

Rust
13th April 2010, 03:40 PM
Yea thats what i wanted originally which is why the MiFi was looking so good... Something small and neat but the more i thought about my lifestyle the more i realised that i would be better off with a T1 in the long run...

Musky
13th April 2010, 03:46 PM
Direct from one of our very helpful engineers :)

Sure is possible! The T1 is a wireless AP like any other Wireless Router so you can connect any wireless client, including laptops, desktops, wireless printers, iPhones, iPads, smart phones, etc

Rust
13th April 2010, 04:08 PM
Thanks again :)

Windoze
13th April 2010, 04:12 PM
Was looking at the T1 with interest until I looked up the compatibility list and the latest Bigpond USB device (ZTE 633BP+) is not supported :(

From reading on here I won't be able to trim down my Bigpond sim to fit the iPad due to the IMEI/IMSI locking either?

iTy
13th April 2010, 04:12 PM
Yea thats what i wanted originally which is why the MiFi was looking so good... Something small and neat but the more i thought about my lifestyle the more i realised that i would be better off with a T1 in the long run...

I'll put my order via Better IT tomorrow. Too bad they have no MTAU codes

Phillo
13th April 2010, 04:21 PM
Spoke to Bigpond. Can't be done. Will not add the IMIE to my account because it is not a Bigpond device.

I know I am late to this party..... but I find it really interesting that BigPond (Telstra) has put this requirement into their terms and conditions.

The funny thing is that historically, ISPs/Telco's have made little or no money off equipment and make their money off the monthly billing cycle. Obviously times have changed.

Its just another reason for me NOT to use Telstra if I dont have to.

Obivously their business model is selling shit to people who dont need/use/understand what they are buying.

OK... I will shut up now.

Musky
13th April 2010, 04:24 PM
happy to help :)

DaveOZ
13th April 2010, 04:27 PM
Ok MiFi all sorted on Telstra. I walked into Telstra shop and asked for a Mobile Broadband SIM. All done and added to my business account. I was able to buy a broadband plan with SIM and no device on any data plan I want which I can change at will.

The best news is that it works on the MiWi so I'm very happy. I will now cancel my Bigpond account.

Musky
13th April 2010, 04:28 PM
Windoze - We're working on that exact one at the moment, eta I've been told is within the next 1-2 weeks, it'll be a firmware update via the support section on our website.

Windoze
13th April 2010, 04:34 PM
Windoze - We're working on that exact one at the moment, eta I've been told is within the next 1-2 weeks, it'll be a firmware update via the support section on our website.

Thanks for the reply, now patiently waiting....

iTy
13th April 2010, 04:44 PM
I walked into Telstra shop and asked for a Mobile Broadband SIM. All done and added to my business account. I was able to buy a broadband plan with SIM and no device on any data plan I want which I can change at will.

The best news is that it works on the MiWi so I'm very happy. I will now cancel my Bigpond account.

Whoah! nice work. I tried that and the tools wouldn't sell it to me. Were you at a T[life] or normal Telstra shop from the 'burbs?

DaveOZ
13th April 2010, 04:46 PM
Telstra shop in the country, sweet talked the rep.

iTy
13th April 2010, 04:53 PM
Telstra shop in the country, sweet talked the rep.

I've tried it at 2 different Telstra shops. They were adamant that they could not sell me a sim only for mbb.

So I signed up to prepaid mobile with data plan (not as good a deal) and had to go through 200 questions about what I'm using it for.

Maybe I look like Jason Bourne and they that I was going to help a journo get out of Brisbane central to ultimately out Telstra and other telcos as a cartel :D

Jokes aside, I'll be trying to do that tomorrow but I think that I will still be getting the T1.

SRG
13th April 2010, 05:25 PM
mine is now up and running on Bigpond Next G and seems to be working well with both Macbook Pro and iPhone hooked up.

Now just need my iPad to arrive tomorrow!

mattatkins
13th April 2010, 05:25 PM
Was looking at the T1 with interest until I looked up the compatibility list and the latest Bigpond USB device (ZTE 633BP+) is not supported :(

Windoze, I've got the same modem as you currently running on the T1 and seems to work just fine when it's plugged in.

Windoze
13th April 2010, 07:58 PM
Ah, good to know. Just lists it as not compatible on the Netcomm website (though the post a bit above says that they are working on it).

Can't beat first hand experience that you have mentioned so I might give it a go anyway. Just confirm yours looks like this one:
ZTE Australia > Products > 3G Data Devices > MF633BP (http://www.zte.com.au/main/MF633BP+.htm)

kevinnugent
13th April 2010, 11:03 PM
If you can somehow unlock the device Virgin sell (http://www.virginmobile.com.au/Shop/ProductSummary/4288/WiFi-Modem-Prepaid-Mobile-Broadband), I'd use that.

They'll unlock after $80 recharge. Seems like a plan...

lukemc
13th April 2010, 11:16 PM
musky could i turn on USB tethering on my iphone, plug it into the T1 via usb and share that data?

mattatkins
13th April 2010, 11:49 PM
Ah, good to know. Just lists it as not compatible on the Netcomm website (though the post a bit above says that they are working on it).

Can't beat first hand experience that you have mentioned so I might give it a go anyway. Just confirm yours looks like this one:
ZTE Australia > Products > 3G Data Devices > MF633BP (http://www.zte.com.au/main/MF633BP+.htm)

Yeah thats the same modem as I have.

DaveOZ
14th April 2010, 08:18 AM
Just wanted to add that the girl at my Telstra shop told me that the Telstra Pre-Paid data sims are speed capped at 3mbit. The ones on a plan are not speed capped and mine has consistently seen over 5 so far.

Rust
14th April 2010, 01:24 PM
T1 just arrived...Charging it up now. I'll do some testing soon :)

Musky
14th April 2010, 05:20 PM
Wow, that was fast :) let me know what you think of it.

iTy
14th April 2010, 05:26 PM
T1 just arrived...Charging it up now. I'll do some testing soon :)

Nice! Please post a mini review. Hoping to get approval for the capex from the Minister for War & Finance after she reads it :D

lukemc
14th April 2010, 07:10 PM
Rust any chance you can see if you can tether an iphone bia USB to it, if so ill be ordering one asap!

davedave
14th April 2010, 08:26 PM
Rust any chance you can see if you can tether an iphone bia USB to it, if so ill be ordering one asap!

Sounds good... I too am interested in lukemc's idea...

Musky
14th April 2010, 11:53 PM
I'll investigate this one as well, its a good idea

foxy
15th April 2010, 08:17 AM
Rust any chance you can see if you can tether an iphone bia USB to it, if so ill be ordering one asap!

I used to have a similar device and I don't think it will work, the tethering mode on iPhone essentially works as USB Ethernet, I have tried it on a similar device to no avail. Of course it might work on this particular model, would be convenient.

Musky
15th April 2010, 09:19 AM
I've had a chat with our engineers and they're don't think it'll work either which is a bit of a pity

Rust
15th April 2010, 09:57 AM
Hold tight i'm testing this right now to be certain. I'll let you all know shortly.
On another note, the device is brilliant and works exactly as described. Drove home from work with a WiFi hotspot in the car yesterday lol :)

Rust
15th April 2010, 10:02 AM
Ok, i can confirm that tethering the iPhone and plugging it into the T1 does not work

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6876/photococ.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/i/photococ.jpg/)

Rust
15th April 2010, 10:05 AM
The third light (3G) would have been lit up if it did. Btw nice suggestion LukeMC...Definitely worth a try and if that worked would have been an awesome little work trick :)

lukemc
15th April 2010, 10:43 AM
Thanks for trying rust. Looks like i may have to attempt to jailbreak my iPhone or get my old man to pick up a 3G iPad when he heads to the states in early may and sell the wifi one online!

Stevoid
15th April 2010, 11:30 AM
Hey guys

I'm looking at getting a Netcomm 3GT1WN, and seeing how there is a Netcomm employee here, I was wondering which of these two telstra USB sticks will work.

Linky here (http://www.telstra.com.au/shop/Consumer/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=10001&categoryId=16126&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=16123&top_category=&pageView=image)

Thanks :-)

Musky
15th April 2010, 12:09 PM
Stevoid - I have a feeling both will work but I'll check and get back to you

Rust
15th April 2010, 12:40 PM
Yep both will work. You can access the T1 and specify user name and passwords for the bigpond one and for telstra cards they dont require any tinkering. They are just plug and play.

LukeMC - How big is your current WiFi iPad?

lukemc
15th April 2010, 12:46 PM
Only a 16 gig rust. Serving me well in Thailand at present though! Was great on the plane over too!

Rust
15th April 2010, 01:14 PM
hehe nice :)

Musky
15th April 2010, 03:11 PM
Jeeze Nick, you know more than my engineers do :)

Rust
15th April 2010, 03:38 PM
lol its because i bought one and i can play/test it for everyone :)
I am a Systems Admin/Engineer though ;)

Cybix
15th April 2010, 03:57 PM
iTunes is needed on a PC to tether an iPhone via USB, so I doubt an embedded device could tether.... ever.

Stevoid
15th April 2010, 11:10 PM
Hey Musky. Any word on those Telstra adaptors?

Musky
16th April 2010, 12:54 PM
Stevoid - the signs point to yes but our engineers haven't been able to find the exact models numbers on the Telstra site, they're still looking into it

Musky
16th April 2010, 01:41 PM
And the answer is...

Those dongles are ZTE MF 626 on the left and Sierra Wireless USB 301 on the right

The t1 currently only compatible with ZTE MF 626 (Telsra Pre-paid wireless broadband according to the website).

Sierra Wireless USB 301 compatiblity is in development, ETA 1-2 weeks

iTy
16th April 2010, 02:41 PM
And the answer is...

Those dongles are ZTE MF 626 on the left and Sierra Wireless USB 301 on the right

The t1 currently only compatible with ZTE MF 626 (Telsra Pre-paid wireless broadband according to the website).

Sierra Wireless USB 301 compatiblity is in development, ETA 1-2 weeks

Any updates on the MyZone?

Stevoid
16th April 2010, 03:11 PM
And the answer is...

Those dongles are ZTE MF 626 on the left and Sierra Wireless USB 301 on the right

The t1 currently only compatible with ZTE MF 626 (Telsra Pre-paid wireless broadband according to the website).

Sierra Wireless USB 301 compatiblity is in development, ETA 1-2 weeks

Cool, Well my iPad is still a while off so I might wait until the Sierra USB 301 is supported :)

When it is supported, will it just be a regular goto the Netcomm site and download new firmware?

Musky
16th April 2010, 03:11 PM
At the moment we're looking at mid may to tie in with the iPad release, I've heard a few figures thrown around for price but it's not solid yet so I don't want to say anything on that until I know for sure.

Stevoid - Yeah, it'll just be a firmware update for the support section of the website

Also I just need to gloat for a second because I'm getting my iPad on Monday!! First thing I'm doing is hooking it up with a MyZone to see how they play together :)

bigg
17th April 2010, 04:38 PM
I grabbed a Virgin Mifi from DSE last night $179,

After 5 hours of stuffing around i finally have it working

Talk about not easy.

Here is Tip.

If you get one

Use Windows to install and set it up. I think if i used a wintel laptop
it would of taken me 10min rather than 4 hours. I blame Huawei for
not having proper SL drivers.

I recharged last night with $150 which = 10gb for 12 months plus
you get a Bonus 2gb so thats not a bad deal.

They gave me the unlock key right away so now its unlocked.

Setting up other carrier profiles via the web interface is very annoying.

I stuck my work Optus Sim in and made a profile. It some how became
default and i could not get it to use the Virgin profile again. I had to
restore the device.

Also for WIFI change security from WEP to WPA or WPA2

I spent another hour wondering why my iPhone and MBA would not
hold a connection. Still no idea why but then changed Security to WPA
Boom first shot.

Also another tip, Im using the Tomtom cigarette - usb car charger and it works a treat to keep it charged in the car.

Also useless Asian support desk* seems to think that this MUST be plugged
into the computer to work. I tired to explain that its wireless but they did not get it.
I just gave up on them. Also Mac OSX does not exist in their world even
though i said im using a mac :)

All up. Not a bad device. But a novice could be bought to tears getting it setup.

* i give them a little credit as i was talking to a real human within 5 min

Comet
17th April 2010, 06:17 PM
I had similar issues and the support desk told me to return the device to the store and get a new one in the end.

Anyways, changing the security setting to WPA seemed to have done something to keep the connection to the mifi as well.

Once you've got it unlocked I suggest you update the firmware (windows required) to a generic one.

E5832 | Brightpoint GB Blog (http://blog.brightpointuk.co.uk/category/blog/e5832)

Once you do this you can change the APN etc.

iTy
17th April 2010, 07:03 PM
Yep both will work. You can access the T1 and specify user name and passwords for the bigpond one and for telstra cards they dont require any tinkering. They are just plug and play.

LukeMC - How big is your current WiFi iPad?

How did you get this to work? It tells me that I need to enter the sim pin, but I don't know where on the admin page of the t1 I can do this.

Btw, I got the Netcomm from Harveys this arvo for $155 :)

cwcchap
17th April 2010, 10:22 PM
I installed 3spot on a nokia E71.

3spot is available for $10 and provides you with a wireless access point that your iPad can connect too when on the road.

I figured that I can give my iPhone a rest as the iPad has all the apps etc.

WindowsVista
17th April 2010, 10:32 PM
3spot is based on Joikuspot. I got it from the developer direct for $13.50 odd (Pay in EURO). Use it on my E63 and does make it quite warm. Free version is good but has no name changing/battery threshold/security features.

kyte
18th April 2010, 07:39 AM
Also another tip, Im using the Tomtom cigarette - usb car charger and it works a treat to keep it charged in the car.

Well now THAT is a VERY nice thing. No more looking for wifi when you're on the road, and no worries about recharging it. Thanks for the tip, think I might organise a mifi very very soon :)

Teddo
18th April 2010, 04:53 PM
Btw, I got the Netcomm from Harveys this arvo for $155 :)

Hi all,

been watching this interesting thread a little while.

Re. T1
Too awkward put in pocket with the modem sticking out BUT -

Am using a Huawei E220 modem with a USB adapter from a Aldi Medion USB Kit onto the T1. This makes it quite portable and in the pocket. The T1 works fine with the MF627 & E160 but not with that adapter I guess because of its cord.

If you can find a small right angle USB cable adapter/extender then tell us all.

mcargy08
18th April 2010, 05:28 PM
Bought my Virgin wifi miFi from DSE today and as soon as I activated it when I got home, bang it worked straight away with my iPad!

Windoze
18th April 2010, 05:39 PM
Hi all,



If you can find a small right angle USB cable adapter/extender then tell us all.

There are plenty on ebay but they do the 90 degrees the wrong way (are designed to have the USB stick upright when coming out the side of a computer.

How about a short flexible USB extension cord and then velcro the modem to the T1? I think that this will be my plan. Its a shame the USB connector isn't itself rotated 90 degrees, then you could use this:
NEW 90 Degree Right Angle USB Adapter - eBay, USB Plugins, Add-ons, Laptop Accessories, Computers. (end time 04-May-10 15:13:37 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-90-Degree-Right-Angle-USB-Adapter-/280433919019#ht_1304wt_941)

Or a shorter version of this:
Right left angle USB Male To Female extension cable X2 - eBay, Cables, Components, Computers. (end time 20-Apr-10 22:47:47 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Right-left-angle-USB-Male-To-Female-extension-cable-X2_W0QQitemZ390183245884QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Comp onents?hash=item5ad8bbd83c#ht_3245wt_1167)

decryption
18th April 2010, 05:41 PM
I've been using the NetComm MyZone (http://www.netcommlimited.com/products/hspa-3g-routers/3g24w), with my iPad (Musky got me a review unit to try out and review for MacTalk) and I must say, it's quite a classy little device. Expect a full review in the coming days up on the MacTalk blog.

Windoze
18th April 2010, 05:42 PM
Having you been using it with a Bigpond sim though?

decryption
18th April 2010, 05:59 PM
Having you been using it with a Bigpond sim though?

Yep. Works great.

Windoze
18th April 2010, 06:11 PM
Damn now I am confused. I thought that previously on here that it had been decided that Bigpond sims were IMEI locked to their device and so the sim couldn't be taken from their device and stuck in something else. I believe that Telstra sims are ok though. Mmm...

I would much rather the MyZone than the T1 but thought that I was going to be stuck with the T1 given the above information.

decryption
18th April 2010, 06:23 PM
Ohh, I'm using a Telstra branded SIM, not a BigPond branded SIM (i would have thought they're the same thing).

If you're in Melb and want to check with your SIM before you buy, PM me and we can meet up and test :)

DaveOZ
18th April 2010, 06:29 PM
Ohh, I'm using a Telstra branded SIM, not a BigPond branded SIM (i would have thought they're the same thing).


Nope. Bigpond sims can't be used is any device other the the original bigpond one.

Windoze
18th April 2010, 06:37 PM
If you're in Melb and want to check with your SIM before you buy, PM me and we can meet up and test :)

Thanks for the kind offer however I am in Nowra (2 hours south of Sydney). It also looks like others have confirmed what I thought I had read somewhere. Bloody Bigpond!

Hopefully they will come out with some decent deals/plans for iPad but I'm not holding my breath. I will probably get the T1 then. Has anyone got a good price?

Teddo
18th April 2010, 07:09 PM
There are plenty on ebay but they do the 90 degrees the wrong way (are designed to have the USB stick upright when coming out the side of a computer. .................
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still jut out too far, right angle or not. Its got to be much the size of those small usb cheap bluetooth devices.

Have tried JayCar, DSE, DealExtreme. And talked to 'experts'.

I use either the Virgin $2 sim that gets 300mb (Whirlpool) or the TPG (Optus) payg with first 150mb free. With these I've been able to stream paytv from home and still offer a roving hotspot with N. A great modem this T1!

led-zep
19th April 2010, 12:03 PM
where does one acquire on of these netcomm myzone? And from reading here, am i right in assuming this is fully compatible with Telstra Next G 850hz network? what is the setup like for this device?

iTy
19th April 2010, 12:28 PM
Tested my Netcomm 3gt1wn yesterday. Definitely need something between it and the USB modem. The 'L' shape is crapp and not elegant. It would be nice if you could put the USB inside it so it could just sit in the pocket.

I was putting it on the floor out os sight as it looks ugly.

I'm using it with bigpond. It's funny how bigpond are the only ones that require a username and password. Telstra don't. It's like they purposely want their customers lives difficult. So I can't easily switch between the bigpond dongle and my Telstra dongle.

Anyway, been getting real shit speeds, but that probably because bigpond have a lot of congestion issues.

@Musky, perhaps during the next firmware update for t1 device you can ask about putting in multiple account feature. It would be nice to be able to just put in any USB device and for it to remember passwords and usernames. I know that is is soley due to bigppond, but I may as well ask

decryption
19th April 2010, 12:48 PM
where does one acquire on of these netcomm myzone? And from reading here, am i right in assuming this is fully compatible with Telstra Next G 850hz network? what is the setup like for this device?

As far as I know, it's not for sale yet.

I'm using it right now with a Telstra NextG SIM on the 850MHz network.

Setup is painless. Put in your SIM, turn it on, connect to the default wi-fi network, log in to the web-based set up screen and configure it in there. If you've ever set up an ADSL modem before, this is the exact same. It also had built in profiles (APN and other details) for all the AU mobile telcos (3, Voda, Telstra and Optus).

I'm really happy with the MyZone and want to keep it or buy one after this review. I still want a 3G iPad, but this could be really handy for public gatherings with laptops (or those with iPod touches or crappy Optus reception, hah).

It's also a lot more convenient than a USB modem, as it doesn't need to be configured for different computers. Just turn it on, connect and away you go. It can also run off mains power or off any USB power.

Anyways, a proper review will be up this week on the blog.

iTy
19th April 2010, 01:12 PM
As far as I know, it's not for sale yet.

I'm using it right now with a Telstra NextG SIM on the 850MHz network.

Setup is painless. Put in your SIM, turn it on, connect to the default wi-fi network, log in to the web-based set up screen and configure it in there. If you've ever set up an ADSL modem before, this is the exact same. It also had built in profiles (APN and other details) for all the AU mobile telcos (3, Voda, Telstra and Optus).

I'm really happy with the MyZone and want to keep it or buy one after this review. I still want a 3G iPad, but this could be really handy for public gatherings with laptops (or those with iPod touches or crappy Optus reception, hah).

It's also a lot more convenient than a USB modem, as it doesn't need to be configured for different computers. Just turn it on, connect and away you go. It can also run off mains power or off any USB power.

Anyways, a proper review will be up this week on the blog.


Damn! Sounds like my kind of device. User experience first before features :)

Hope that I don't end up regretting the 3gt1 purchase.

SRG
19th April 2010, 02:04 PM
Well I think I screwed the battery on my T1.

Of course not being a manual reader, I charged mine up but started using it straight away. Turns out (having now looked in the manual) you need to fully charge the device first time and not use at all (though my inital use was only a few uses and not that large)

I am at best getting 2 hours out of it, which kinda defeats the portable nature as I need to take the power with me to recharge it.

I accept it is my error but perhaps a sticker on the device or battery to say must be fully charged for those of us who regard reading a manual as a insult :)

decryption
19th April 2010, 02:10 PM
I have the T1 here as well (still in the box - haven't had time to play with it), and it's much more flexible. It's got an ethernet port, so you can share hotel wireless connections, as well as 3G dongles, plus it supports 802.11n. However, it's certainly larger than the MyZone.

Check these photos out of just how thin and small it is:

Next to an iPhone 3GS:
http://onemorething.com.au/imgdump/IMG_0480-20100419-140120.jpg


My Costco membership card ontop of it. It's credit card sized:
http://onemorething.com.au/imgdump/skitched-20100419-140800.jpg

I thought I could fit it in my wallet:
http://onemorething.com.au/imgdump/skitched-20100419-140846.jpg

And it does!
http://onemorething.com.au/imgdump/skitched-20100419-141000.jpg

The user interface is classy as well:
http://grab.by/3QVh

iTy
19th April 2010, 02:24 PM
Well I think I screwed the battery on my T1.

Of course not being a manual reader, I charged mine up but started using it straight away. Turns out (having now looked in the manual) you need to fully charge the device first time and not use at all (though my inital use was only a few uses and not that large)

I am at best getting 2 hours out of it, which kinda defeats the portable nature as I need to take the power with me to recharge it.

I accept it is my error but perhaps a sticker on the device or battery to say must be fully charged for those of us who regard reading a manual as a insult :)

Double damn! That is exactly what I have done. I thought that the battery was Li-on.

Why is it that some li-on batteries you can use straight away and some you need to charge first?

Anyone have a definitive answer? How do I recondition the battery for the t1?

SRG
19th April 2010, 02:38 PM
I am just going to fully discharge mine then fully charge and hope that recallibrates it but not sure that will work. Do think with 2 of us doing it something for Netcomm to think about.

Have to say apart from that a very good unit.

iTy
19th April 2010, 03:34 PM
I am just going to fully discharge mine then fully charge and hope that recallibrates it but not sure that will work. Do think with 2 of us doing it something for Netcomm to think about.

Have to say apart from that a very good unit.


Yeah, going through the motion of fully discharging it now. Then cycle through a full charge.

Also, other comment is that it loses the ip after about 10 mins of use. I have to either renew the lease or switch the wifi on/off on the iPad. anyone else experience this?

Lastly, for anyone who is thinking of getting this, don't try to do the initial configuration from the iPad. The mgt website (192.168...) doesn't really work on the iPad. It's ok for every other USB dongles except for bigpond. As previously said, you need to enter username and password. So you can't do this from the iPad.

mattatkins
19th April 2010, 03:41 PM
I'm also having the same battery issues with the t1. I'm only getting about 2 hours out of it. Maybe its an issue with the batteries and not just an issue from us not fully charging it from out of the box.

nbetts
19th April 2010, 04:03 PM
I have the T1 here as well (still in the box - haven't had time to play with it), and it's much more flexible. It's got an ethernet port, so you can share hotel wireless connections, as well as 3G dongles, plus it supports 802.11n. However, it's certainly larger than the MyZone.

Check these photos out of just how thin and small it is:






I just Jizzed my pants a little. Must. Have. This.

I wish Netcomm would give a release and price update on this.

Musky
19th April 2010, 04:24 PM
Yeah unfortunately as recommended in the manuals the battery does need to be fully charged before using or you end up with the problems a few of you are having.

I've asked about recalibrating it and our engineers are under the impression that it won't fix it. The only other thing that I was told is that it's a pretty standard battery NP-120, I did a quick google search and found them online for $20. So if it's becoming a major issue it's pretty easily replaced.

OzRacingWrap - I'll look into getting a sticker on the units for future shipments to try and avoid this

With the MyZone, I'm hoping I can tell you all pricing and dates by the end of this week/start of next week.

iTy
19th April 2010, 05:40 PM
Yeah unfortunately as recommended in the manuals the battery does need to be fully charged before using or you end up with the problems a few of you are having.

I've asked about recalibrating it and our engineers are under the impression that it won't fix it. The only other thing that I was told is that it's a pretty standard battery NP-120, I did a quick google search and found them online for $20. So if it's becoming a major issue it's pretty easily replaced.

OzRacingWrap - I'll look into getting a sticker on the units for future shipments to try and avoid this

With the MyZone, I'm hoping I can tell you all pricing and dates by the end of this week/start of next week.


How about fixing up the mgt area so it can updated from an iPad? Currently, can't do things like changing wireless settings or renaming SSIDs. In my case, can't change profiles from bigpond to Telstra or three.

The only thing that works is the status tab. It's strange how the drop down menus don't work on safari.

Teddo
19th April 2010, 07:19 PM
...............I've asked about recalibrating it and our engineers are under the impression that it won't fix it. The only other thing that I was told is that it's a pretty standard battery NP-120, I did a quick google search and found them online for $20. So if it's becoming a major issue it's pretty easily replaced.............
..

I fear I may have reduced life as I was using during first charge. But it was more than 2hrs over a week.

Replacement inc post off Ebay $7.

Musky
19th April 2010, 09:45 PM
@iTy - at the moment we don't have any iPads (blooming customs!) but aside from myself, our CTO and one of our senior engineers are getting them so this is something we'll definitely be looking into for a future firmware update

WindowsVista
19th April 2010, 09:49 PM
@iTy - at the moment we don't have any iPads (blooming customs!) but aside from myself, our CTO and one of our senior engineers are getting them so this is something we'll definitely be looking into for a future firmware update

With regards to the name - 'MyZone'. NSW Transports' new ticketing system is called 'MyZone', wouldn't there be a legal issue there?

iTy
19th April 2010, 10:31 PM
@iTy - at the moment we don't have any iPads (blooming customs!) but aside from myself, our CTO and one of our senior engineers are getting them so this is something we'll definitely be looking into for a future firmware update

Thanks for that, keep us posted.

I wonder if people have to develop iPad specific websites now. Any devs out there know if the Safari on the iPad has any special requirements, re. sites viewed on an iPad?

Musky
20th April 2010, 09:13 AM
@WindowsVista - We had the name first :) plus they're different industries.

@iTy - I've noticed when building websites for myself that getting a drop down working on a touch screen device like the iPhone requires a bit of work, I spent days trying to get the drop down for www.bulldogtheatre.com (http://www.bulldogtheatre.com/) working on my iPhone. The menu works in Safari, it's just when there's no mouse pointer on an iPhone etc that it becomes a challenge

iTy
20th April 2010, 09:46 AM
@WindowsVista - We had the name first :) plus they're different industries.

@iTy - I've noticed when building websites for myself that getting a drop down working on a touch screen device like the iPhone requires a bit of work, I spent days trying to get the drop down for www.bulldogtheatre.com (http://www.bulldogtheatre.com/) working on my iPhone. The menu works in Safari, it's just when there's no mouse pointer on an iPhone etc that it becomes a challenge

Ok I see what you mean. Thanks for that. Any tips?

Musky
20th April 2010, 10:06 AM
I used CSS to build the bulldog theatre menus and I'm trying to get the same done on the t1 so it'll work, until then plugging it into a computer is the only workaround

nbetts
20th April 2010, 12:17 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any experience with this device at all....

Unlocked HUAWEI E5830 MiFi WiFi Wireless Modem E6939 - eBay Other Wireless Modems, Wireless, Modems, Computers. (end time 26-Apr-10 01:11:50 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Unlocked-HUAWEI-E5830-MiFi-WiFi-Wireless-Modem-E6939_W0QQitemZ180494501558QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_M odems?hash=item2a064f86b6)

any thoughts or advice?

svale
20th April 2010, 02:11 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any experience with this device at all....

Unlocked HUAWEI E5830 MiFi WiFi Wireless Modem E6939 - eBay Other Wireless Modems, Wireless, Modems, Computers. (end time 26-Apr-10 01:11:50 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Unlocked-HUAWEI-E5830-MiFi-WiFi-Wireless-Modem-E6939_W0QQitemZ180494501558QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_M odems?hash=item2a064f86b6)

any thoughts or advice?

It's the same device as this: http://forums.mactalk.com.au/55/75065-virgin-mobile-3g-wi-fi-modem-aka-mifi.html

I don't have one so can't comment on it, though I'm considering picking one up if the carriers don't end up offering decent iPad data plans.

cwcchap
20th April 2010, 03:42 PM
Just picked one up, can't wait to test.

Will post experience shortly.

bigg
20th April 2010, 04:11 PM
Anyone know if there are plans for "Consume" to add Virgin BB so we can
track our data?

MightyAtom
20th April 2010, 04:43 PM
Anyone know if there are plans for "Consume" to add Virgin BB so we can
track our data?
You might want to pose that question in the Consume thread. It's been asked for several times, I've even sent them my Virgin BB account data ages ago. I suspect Virgin's account site is designed in such a way that they can't scrape the data.

Stevoid
21st April 2010, 01:59 PM
Well my swanky little 3GT1WN rocked up and has started its long first ever charge. Is it safe to use and setup whilst it is doing its initial charge?

SRG
21st April 2010, 05:19 PM
Do not use it during the first charge. The battery will be compromised if you do. A few of us on here did and struggle to get 2 hours now.

Stevoid
22nd April 2010, 12:36 PM
Hey all

Just thought I would give my 2 cents on the Netcomm 3GT1WN router.

After the seemly forever charging period, I finally turned it on and ran through the setup. By default it runs WPA security on the wireless which gets a thumbs up in my book.

After all the basic settings were set up (default password changed and the wireless key) it was time to plug in the Telstra prepaid modem. It was literally just that too! All I did was plug it in and this little unit instantly figured it out and connected it! It was the easiest setup I have EVER done with a telstra device.

The battery has been going for 3 hours now still going strong. I highly recommend this unit, well done Netcomm, well done. :-)

Mickytk
22nd April 2010, 12:37 PM
Any news on the MyZone yet? That's the one I'm really interested in seeing.

Teddo
22nd April 2010, 02:19 PM
I wonder if the likes of Three, Optus will sell the MyZone with Ipads next month?
Could be worth waiting then for a better deal?


Gotta agree with you there Stevoid on the 3GT1WN. Ease of setup with E220, MF627 & the unlisted E160!

Rust
22nd April 2010, 02:32 PM
Hey all

Just thought I would give my 2 cents on the Netcomm 3GT1WN router.

After the seemly forever charging period, I finally turned it on and ran through the setup. By default it runs WPA security on the wireless which gets a thumbs up in my book.

After all the basic settings were set up (default password changed and the wireless key) it was time to plug in the Telstra prepaid modem. It was literally just that too! All I did was plug it in and this little unit instantly figured it out and connected it! It was the easiest setup I have EVER done with a telstra device.

The battery has been going for 3 hours now still going strong. I highly recommend this unit, well done Netcomm, well done. :-)

I second that. Works like a dream with my iPad...
My only "negative" with it is what you mentioned - it takes FOREVER to charge hehe..

wazza3gs
22nd April 2010, 05:35 PM
Where is the best place to get a T1 in sydney? Are they Sold in retail chains JB HIFI etc?

Stevoid
22nd April 2010, 05:43 PM
I ordered mine from www.betterIT.com.au. they were very quick with sending it out.

Rust
22nd April 2010, 06:43 PM
Same here, it arrived next day...

grant_spatchcock
22nd April 2010, 07:05 PM
Sorry if this has already been answered but for those of you with an ipad can you tether from iphone?

decryption
22nd April 2010, 08:04 PM
Sorry if this has already been answered but for those of you with an ipad can you tether from iphone?

1. Nah, you can't tether your iPhone to your iPad.
2. Awesome username :)

kevinnugent
22nd April 2010, 09:20 PM
With the T1 you can just plug in (my) Vodafone USB dongle and it'll work?

decryption
22nd April 2010, 09:36 PM
With the T1 you can just plug in (my) Vodafone USB dongle and it'll work?

Depends which model dongle it is though.

kevinnugent
22nd April 2010, 09:42 PM
Depends which model dongle it is though.

It's the Vodafone 3g mobile broadband one.... White with red VF logo! :) is there another kind?

It's this one : Vodafone USB Modem - Vodafone Online Store (http://store.vodafone.com.au/handset-vodafone-usb-modem.aspx)

petermc
22nd April 2010, 09:44 PM
I did read through the above posts and have got mixed messages about the Netcomm 3gt1wn and compatibilty with Model No: MF633BP+ (bigpond turbo modem). Has anyone got the two working together.

decryption
22nd April 2010, 09:47 PM
It's the Vodafone 3g mobile broadband one.... White with red VF logo! :) is there another kind?

Probably, haha
Do you know which brand/model it is?
Should say on the back K3765 or something like that

kevinnugent
22nd April 2010, 10:04 PM
Probably, haha
Do you know which brand/model it is?
Should say on the back K3765 or something like that

Yep! K3765 exactly....

decryption
22nd April 2010, 10:09 PM
Yep! K3765 exactly....

I have a T1 travel router and a Voda K3765 here, so if no-one answers you by tomorrow morning, I will let you know if it works :)

iTy
22nd April 2010, 10:15 PM
I've got the 3gt1 with a Telstra prepaid mbb sim in a ZTE mf627 usb dongle.

The pin keeps asking for a sim pin everytime I use it in the mf727.

Anyone know how to stop it asking for a pin every time?

Edit: @musky any chance of getting a Huawei E1552 USB modem working with the 3gt1?

moothia
23rd April 2010, 09:49 AM
A question go the lucky iPad owners out there. How much wifi data have you consumed so far and over what time frame?

Given these numbers............. how much data per month would be sufficient on the iPad in your opinion??

Reason I ask is I am trying to assess whether I should just get 'another' data plan for the 3g iPad or simply jailbreak my iPhone and tether data to the Wifi only iPad.

Be interested to hear your thoughts.

Thanks in advance.

iTy
23rd April 2010, 10:10 AM
A question go the lucky iPad owners out there. How much wifi data have you consumed so far and over what time frame?

Given these numbers............. how much data per month would be sufficient on the iPad in your opinion??

Reason I ask is I am trying to assess whether I should just get 'another' data plan for the 3g iPad or simply jailbreak my iPhone and tether data to the Wifi only iPad.

Be interested to hear your thoughts.

Thanks in advance.

If you frequent cafes with wifi or maccas then 500mb is probably enough.

I have wifi around the home and use tomizone, when out and about (assuming it works). Also have a 3gt1 travel router with a bigpond and Telstra USB. I have 1 gb with bigpond and will probably switch over to Telstra only shortly. I have 3 gb with Telstra since it was only $10 extra between 1 and 3

So if I could have jailbroken my iPhone with 2gb data, maybe that would have been sufficient. Unfortunately I've installed 4.0 and subsequently upgraded the baseband. So no solution for me ATM.

Also, I'm with Vodafone and they are not the most reliable telco for the arras I go. The amount of dropouts I get is unbelievable. So I don't trust their network. The 2 gb of data atm is useless to me since Mr. Murphy suggests that when I need it most, it will most likely fail me. This has occurred a couple of times already.

kevinnugent
23rd April 2010, 11:07 AM
I have a T1 travel router and a Voda K3765 here, so if no-one answers you by tomorrow morning, I will let you know if it works :)

Did you manage to get it working, Anthony?

SRG
23rd April 2010, 11:15 AM
I would think on how I am tracking I might need around 3GB where as on the iPhone I live with 300mb. Iam with Bigpond for my wireless so for the first month I bumped it to 5 to be safe and will check over the next few months.

The reason is with the iPad is I am finding much more a consumption device so more likely to say in the BBC app to watch a news video or watch the Dodger highlights on MLB 10.

Also seems (though not likely a big factor) you are downloading say full websites and not the mobile versions so slightly more data there.

Though all that has to put in context of a shiny new toy so I am likely over using at the moment. Also I was away interstate this week for 5 days so of course was using my wireless more.

Bottom line is I don't think your iPhone usage will be a good guide.

iTy
23rd April 2010, 11:50 AM
To all the owners of a 3gt1wn travel router.

I'm totally lost.

Here's my configuration:

ZTE MF627 unlocked
Telstra Mobile Broadband sim
iPad
3gt1wn Travel Router.

At first it was only happening with MTAU site and forum replies but now it seems to be other sites too.

The iPad keeps losing connection to the internet when browsing. The wireless connection is good and the apps that require an internet connection work fine until I use Safari then the Internet connection goes.

So if I got to use safari first it's fine for about 10 mins then the internet connection goes.

If I use an app, eg. BBC or NYT it works for greater than 10 mins. That is until I go and use Safari.

Is safari the culprit here or is there something wrong with Telstra connection.

I ran a series of Speedtests using Speed test .net app and I got connection speeds ranging from 190kbs to 1700kbs. This was in the space 1 mim. I ran 10 tests, one after each other.

Any help diagnosing the issue would be great. :confused:

LXBren
23rd April 2010, 07:53 PM
The thing to remember with the iPad 3g (correct me if i'm wrong) is that it doesnt support the Optus and Voda 900mhz 3g range. A lot of rural areas now have the 3g 900mhz but the iphone and the ipad don't support it.
Welcome to Mifi. It does support it. This is where things are ridiculous... I cant get reception on my iphone in Yankalilla (SA) with optus but if i put my sim in my MiFi I can make voip calls with my iphone over the optus network.
I got the MiFi and although it's expensive it works very well. Very easy to configure. I thought I would last swapping out my sim all the time but instead I cut back the data plan on my iphone, shaved a few dollars of my home internet and got a Voda pre-paid sim. $29 for sim and 3gb (1gb standard + bonus 2gb on activation). When that runs out I plan on recharging with the $150 for 12gb 365day expiry.
Personally i think the optus network in Adelaide and SA is slightly better than vodafone for data but for the few times i really need it Vodafone will do.
In saying all that... if the next iphone could be paired to the ipad i would just do that.

The added bonus of the MiFi is the instant wifi router. the kids wanted to play Battleship against each other via ipod touch and iphone whilst in the car. bluetooth was giving them grief so i just pulled out the wifi.

Today I spent about 3.5 hrs on the MiFi and it still had charge. Great battery life.

Definitely one of the coolest devices but if Telstra came in with a plan that was around $5-$7 a gig for the ipad i would sell mine and take that.

kevinnugent
23rd April 2010, 07:58 PM
Welcome to Mifi. It does support it. This is where things are ridiculous... I cant get reception on my iphone in Yankalilla (SA) with optus but if i put my sim in my MiFi I can make voip calls with my iphone over the optus network.
I got the MiFi and although it's expensive it works very well. Very easy to configure.

The added bonus of the MiFi is the instant wifi router. the kids wanted to play Battleship against each other via ipod touch and iphone whilst in the car. bluetooth was giving them grief so i just pulled out the wifi.

Today I spent about 3.5 hrs on the MiFi and it still had charge. Great battery life.

Definitely one of the coolest devices but if Telstra came in with a plan that was around $5-$7 a gig for the ipad i would sell mine and take that.

Isn't "MiFi" a generic name? What's the actual device called that you bought? The Virgin one? Vodafone?

matthew858
23rd April 2010, 08:40 PM
Isn't "MiFi" a generic name? What's the actual device called that you bought? The Virgin one? Vodafone?

No, definitely not. MiFi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiFi) is a product manufactured by Novatel, and comes in 2 models - the 2352 and 2372.

MightyAtom
23rd April 2010, 08:42 PM
Isn't "MiFi" a generic name? What's the actual device called that you bought? The Virgin one? Vodafone?

No, though it is confusing, in most of the world (including Australia) MiFi is a trademark owned by Novatel. They make several wifi 3G routers under the MiFi name. However in the UK 3 own the trademark and market the Huawei E5830 (a version of the device sold by Virgin Australia) under the MiFi brand.

Rogerthatv2
23rd April 2010, 09:57 PM
Has anyone had any luck getting the Bigpond ZTE MF633BP+ working with the 3GT1WN Netcomm Travel Router, bought one today and for the life of me I cannot get it to work, it also appears that it after closer inspection to the support docs that it may be the only model that is not supported...

Any help greatly appreciated as my iPad arrives tuesday and I would like to be ready to try it out at work. Thanks

kevinnugent
24th April 2010, 12:35 PM
I have a T1 travel router and a Voda K3765 here, so if no-one answers you by tomorrow morning, I will let you know if it works :)

Dammit, as it turns out the USB modem I have from VF is a K3715, Anthony. So much for relying on other people looking at it! :)

I'll ask at the source....

decryption
24th April 2010, 12:37 PM
My T1 is still in the shrinkwrap, haha
Haven't had time to play with it yet.

iphonedev
24th April 2010, 07:45 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread.

but has anyone tried connecting their iPad to "MyWI" iPhone app? Does it work?

Cheers

Keving
24th April 2010, 07:55 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread.

but has anyone tried connecting their iPad to "MyWI" iPhone app? Does it work?

Cheers

Ye im using it, works 100% 3G iPad is pointless x 1000.

iphonedev
24th April 2010, 08:35 PM
Ye im using it, works 100% 3G iPad is pointless x 1000.

Cool.

benerrol
24th April 2010, 10:21 PM
To all the owners of a 3gt1wn travel router.

I'm totally lost.

Here's my configuration:

ZTE MF627 unlocked
Telstra Mobile Broadband sim
iPad
3gt1wn Travel Router.

At first it was only happening with MTAU site and forum replies but now it seems to be other sites too.

The iPad keeps losing connection to the internet when browsing. The wireless connection is good and the apps that require an internet connection work fine until I use Safari then the Internet connection goes.

So if I got to use safari first it's fine for about 10 mins then the internet connection goes.

If I use an app, eg. BBC or NYT it works for greater than 10 mins. That is until I go and use Safari.

Is safari the culprit here or is there something wrong with Telstra connection.

I ran a series of Speedtests using Speed test .net app and I got connection speeds ranging from 190kbs to 1700kbs. This was in the space 1 mim. I ran 10 tests, one after each other.

Any help diagnosing the issue would be great. :confused:

Mine is the same, first I thought it was the router but its not, it's the iPad. Works for a while then it just stops, I have to turn wifi and then away it goes again. Then it happens again. It's bloody annoying. The only difference in my set up is a pre-paid telstra modem MF626. Anybody else have any problems or fixes?

benerrol
24th April 2010, 10:22 PM
nevermind me, wireless was suffering from interference.

SRG
24th April 2010, 10:54 PM
I switched my T1 n only and auto channel and seems much better

iTy
25th April 2010, 01:00 AM
nevermind me, wireless was suffering from interference.

Got told by someone today that the iPad has this issue with DHCP and not renewing IPs. Anyone know if this is true or have links?

I might switch to N only as suggested. See if that helps.

Hope Apple fix this soon as its bloody annoying

gehenna
25th April 2010, 01:03 AM
Got told by someone today that the iPad has this issue with DHCP and not renewing IPs. Anyone know if this is true or have links?

I might switch to N only as suggested. See if that helps.

Hope Apple fix this soon as its bloody annoying

Some have reported this as an issue, yes. There's a lot of info on the Apple official support forums. Evidently this is the cause of the WiFi problems that have been reported. I guess it's easy enough to get around by renewing your lease manually in the interim.

iTy
25th April 2010, 01:07 AM
Some have reported this as an issue, yes. There's a lot of info on the Apple official support forums. Evidently this is the cause of the WiFi problems that have been reported. I guess it's easy enough to get around by renewing your lease manually in the interim.

Thanks for that. I was told this today at a cafe, I thought that they were pulling my leg.

I'll look this up. I was just wondering why it only happens with the 3GT1WN and not my AEBS (home wifi).

DeKa
25th April 2010, 10:54 AM
Does anyone know if you can buy the MiFi 2352 (for Vodafone) in a bricks and mortar store in Sydney? It looks to me like the only model I can buy face to face is the Virgin Mobile Huawei model. I want to get one quickly (ie before the end of next week) and it's a short week.
Thanks.

Comet
25th April 2010, 11:51 AM
Does anyone know if you can buy the MiFi 2352 (for Vodafone) in a bricks and mortar store in Sydney? It looks to me like the only model I can buy face to face is the Virgin Mobile Huawei model. I want to get one quickly (ie before the end of next week) and it's a short week.
Thanks.

I don't think there is one for vodafone. I have a 3G data contract with vodafone so I just bought the virgin one, paid 15 euro for dc-unlocker and have stuck my vodafone one onto it after changing the firmware to a generic one.

retroneo
25th April 2010, 01:01 PM
Keep in mind the official 3G version won't give you anywhere near the same video experience as the WiFi version with a MiFi-style device..

tcn33
25th April 2010, 05:23 PM
Keep in mind the official 3G version won't give you anywhere near the same video experience as the WiFi version with a MiFi-style device..
Why is that?

decryption
25th April 2010, 05:29 PM
Why is that?

If you're on 3G, YouTube will select the mobile version of the video (which looks pretty crap). If you're on wi-fi, it selects the proper version. If you're using a mi-fi device, as far as the iPad/iPhone knows, you're on wi-fi, even though you're actually using 3G as your internet connection from the mi-fi device.