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iCarllovesapple
11th August 2009, 08:07 PM
Not yet on the Australian Store, but on the US and several other sites it is available! Very Jealous, for those who get one! :P

tintinaujapon
11th August 2009, 08:10 PM
Woah. My new laptop purchase just got a lot more likely in the near future. Nice spot Carl.

NeoRicen
11th August 2009, 08:35 PM
As long as it's an option, you whiners can have your ugly matte screen as long as I can choose a glossy one. ;)

Huy
11th August 2009, 08:40 PM
$50 USD more.

Anthonyw
11th August 2009, 08:40 PM
I hate the look of the silver border and love glossy too, but choice is a good thing for all. A bit rough charging extra for it though

Remy
11th August 2009, 09:13 PM
Funny that... I saw (http://tgrblog.com/2009/06/02/antiglare-15-macbook-pro-just-around-the-corner/) a 15" antiglare MBP a while ago at the Apple Store and I couldn't believe my eyes. Good to see a slightly less expensive option for an antiglare screen.

samuelowens
11th August 2009, 09:18 PM
Excellent news...

I'll still probably wait for quad core MBPs to arrive, but at least I know I can get the base 15" now, rather than shelling out for a top of the line 17"...

klif
11th August 2009, 09:26 PM
So glad I didn't order a new 15" in the last few weeks now.

I'll hold on and see what the matte looks like at Chadstone, then order...

Geoff3DMN
11th August 2009, 09:40 PM
This is very good news!

I do prefer the form factor of the 13" macbook and just the 8600GT wasn't enough to sway me towards the 15" but combine that with the much better matt screen and it's a no brainer.

When I replace my 13" inch unibody it'll have to be a 15" inch MacBook Pro :)

klif
11th August 2009, 09:44 PM
I'm the opposite I have a 15" MBP now (non-unibody) and I'd love to get the 13" MBP but there are just a few things that aren't upto scratch, one of them remains which is no matte option.

iCarllovesapple
11th August 2009, 09:53 PM
I am seriously considering upgrading. My Macbook Pro is farrrrrked and no-one can find out what's wrong with it. It's lagging continuously. NextByte told me everything is A OK! They also told me that they used it for 20 hours to test things. Watching my MBP for a total of 20 hours hey? I'm surprised they didn't see the screen flicker. Angry.

Dux
11th August 2009, 10:23 PM
I'd only consider two more features to make my 13" MBP the perfect laptop -

slightly more powerful GPU
matte display

Looks like I'll have these when I upgrade in a few years time. :)

dotnet
11th August 2009, 10:51 PM
$50 USD more.

Surely, that's not too much to pay for a heavy sterling silver frame and an exquisite surrounding lip made from finest Brazilian caoutchouc... :D

Cheers
Steffen.

AnthoMac
11th August 2009, 11:29 PM
Better now than later. Though I have to admit the look of my 'mirror screened' macbook looks great, when under optimal conditions.

leon
12th August 2009, 06:31 AM
For those interested, the upgrade price is AUD$80.

Ecto1
12th August 2009, 08:46 AM
$80 is not bad, but I would like to see them offer it for the 13" as well.

scar68
12th August 2009, 09:27 AM
Choice is always good. Interesting to see Apple backtrack on this.

I was disappointed when I ordered my new unibody 15" that I had to go gloss as it would not have been my choice.

However having used it for some months in lots of different environments for work and leisure I would not now have it any other way. I love the way the colour and contrast seem so much more intense.

Brains
12th August 2009, 10:57 AM
I'm itching for someone to get their mitts on one of the new 15" mattes, so I can find out what panel is being used. If the rumour-mill is to be believed, it is another LG L-IPS 24-bit panel, similar to what powers the MBP17 mattes.

Phase
12th August 2009, 11:01 AM
I'm itching for someone to get their mitts on one of the new 15" mattes, so I can find out what panel is being used. If the rumour-mill is to be believed, it is another LG L-IPS 24-bit panel, similar to what powers the MBP17 mattes.

Yes, yes, yes.

This would be utterly superb.

The improved colour gamut is astounding, combine this with a Matte finish, and I'll look at upgrading.

drewbles
12th August 2009, 12:46 PM
Yes, yes, yes.

This would be utterly superb.

The improved colour gamut is astounding, combine this with a Matte finish, and I'll look at upgrading.

+1

I have both a Black MacBook and the last of the non-unibody 15" MBP's. I *hate* the screen on my Black MacBook. Above the fact it's hopeless in office environments with large amounts of Fluro lighting, it attracts dust like nothing else. I have to constantly clean it for the smallest smudge (I'm pretty anal about having a clean screen).

Apple, Thank you. I can buy your laptops again (when this one eventually gives up the ghost, not that it should anytime soon it's a brilliant laptop!)

marc
12th August 2009, 01:26 PM
I hate the look of the silver border
Same.

But I also like matte screens. Difficult choice!

simonm
12th August 2009, 04:58 PM
The glossy screens are quicker and easier to clean than the mattes imo, with less risk of damaging the actual disply because it's protected by glass.

Is there anyway I can tell if my 17" glossy has an LG L-IPS 24-bit display? Has anyone actually confirmed that the displays used in the laptops are 24-bit or even IPS? I've read loads of conjecture on these points.

I was pretty sure mine is LG and the quality is very similar to that of my brother's LED Cinema Display so I'm pretty happy with it regardless.

azenis
12th August 2009, 05:18 PM
I have a 17" with antiglare and the lack of a black border is not really an issue. You dont really notice what the border is when using it. Besides my desktop monitors are silver so its more of the same for me.

Yeah cleaning is a worry, actually all my screens need a good cleaning... I guess thats one benefit of the glass but then it can still get streaks on it if you used something damp, and that can be a real bitch to clean.

Brains
12th August 2009, 05:53 PM
simon, to the best of my knowledge the MBP-17 glossy uses an 18-bit TN screen, only the matte-option model uses the 24-bit IPS.

dotnet
12th August 2009, 06:15 PM
I have a 17" with antiglare and the lack of a black border is not really an issue. You dont really notice what the border is when using it. Besides my desktop monitors are silver so its more of the same for me.

Moreover, all Apple aluminium laptops from 2003 until the advent of the Unibodies had an aluminium facia around the display, why is this suddenly becoming an issue??

Cheers
Steffen.

Meh 626
12th August 2009, 06:43 PM
Is there anyway I can tell if my 17" glossy has an LG L-IPS 24-bit display? Has anyone actually confirmed that the displays used in the laptops are 24-bit or even IPS? I've read loads of conjecture on these points.

I was pretty sure mine is LG and the quality is very similar to that of my brother's LED Cinema Display so I'm pretty happy with it regardless.

From my research and the research of others the current 17" MBP unibody glossy uses a LG/Philips LP171WU6. I and others have tried looking for specs but none could be found. Ray did find the specs for the LP171WU5, which is the model below the WU6. It's specs are: 1920x1200, 133ppi, 300 nits, 500:1 contrast, 100% saturation, 160/130, 8 ms GTG, 800g, 24-bit, consumes 15 watts.

Hope this helps,

MissionMan
12th August 2009, 06:56 PM
Moreover, all Apple aluminium laptops from 2003 until the advent of the Unibodies had an aluminium facia around the display, why is this suddenly becoming an issue??

Cheers
Steffen.

I'm also a little confused. A lot of people buying the glossy because they think it looks better rather than the usability of the screen itself, seems like a pointless exercise. Its not like the silver outline is ugly, it just doesn't look as neat as the black.

Phunky
12th August 2009, 07:54 PM
Moreover, all Apple aluminium laptops from 2003 until the advent of the Unibodies had an aluminium facia around the display, why is this suddenly becoming an issue??

Cheers
Steffen.

Its the mismatch of design

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/02/mbp17_unbox07.jpg

It appears that the matte option was simply an afterthought, shoving the old design into the new shell. The lines dont seem to integrate well with the rest of the unibody
The silver of the bezel also appears to be different to the silver of the body
Is the bezel itself plastic? Or is it actually aluminium like the rest?

canonafficionado
12th August 2009, 08:00 PM
Seeing it side-by-side like that is pretty telling. The matte/silver option really does look like a crap afterthought.

azenis
12th August 2009, 08:10 PM
Its the mismatch of design

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/02/mbp17_unbox07.jpg

It appears that the matte option was simply an afterthought, shoving the old design into the new shell. The lines dont seem to integrate well with the rest of the unibody
The silver of the bezel also appears to be different to the silver of the body
Is the bezel itself plastic? Or is it actually aluminium like the rest?

That picture does not do it justice. The bezel is aluminium, the same as the rest of the body. It looks fine in the metal.

dotnet
12th August 2009, 08:41 PM
That picture does not do it justice. The bezel is aluminium, the same as the rest of the body. It looks fine in the metal.

Correct. The bezel has exactly the same colour and texture as the rest of the body. If that photo is what's throwing everybody off - you can calm down and rest assured that the matte looks very similar to the pre-unibody MBP, only without the tacky grey plastic border.

Cheers
Steffen.

canonafficionado
12th August 2009, 09:00 PM
Thanks for the clear-up on this guys on how it looks for real. (I write this as I look at my tacky grey plastic border :D... haha)

Currawong
12th August 2009, 09:41 PM
I'm awaiting the backlash causing apple to put back Expresscard slots, then i'll get one. Nice to know I'll be able to get matte finally.

iJordie
12th August 2009, 09:48 PM
Maybee next they will do the high-end 13" MBP.

I doubt they would look very good in a office/classroom lighting environment.
(I assume this is there target audience)

Do this and you have another reason for offices/schools to switch from IBM's to Do-It-All Macs.

Phase
12th August 2009, 10:05 PM
I'm awaiting the backlash causing apple to put back Expresscard slots

You're going to be waiting a while. :rolleyes:

cplicious
14th August 2009, 09:35 AM
Why they didn't just black annodise the screen frame around the matt 17"? I think that would blend in much better with the other macbooks

simonm
14th August 2009, 11:38 AM
Without hard evidence I'd take that with a grain of salt. "To the best of my knowledge" doesn't really classify as hard evidence.


simon, to the best of my knowledge the MBP-17 glossy uses an 18-bit TN screen, only the matte-option model uses the 24-bit IPS.

Dux
14th August 2009, 12:31 PM
Why they didn't just black annodise the screen frame around the matt 17"? I think that would blend in much better with the other macbooks

Hmmm good point. As someone mentioned, the design doesn't look like they put much thought into making the matte display frame - it's just the same boring silver as the rest of the body. A black matte border is a great idea.

dotnet
14th August 2009, 02:45 PM
One thing I was wondering about... The glass-front MBPs don't have a cluster of holes in the bezel next to the iSight, do they? I'm asking because the anti-glare MBPs do (at least the 17"):

http://www.dotnet.org/stuff/mbp-isight.jpg

Would Apple have gone so far as moving the microphone (which used to be under the left speaker grille) to a more appropriate position??

Cheers
Steffen.

MissionMan
14th August 2009, 02:47 PM
One thing I was wondering about... The glass-front MBPs don't have a cluster of holes in the bezel next to the iSight, do they? I'm asking because the anti-glare MBPs do (at least the 17"):

http://www.dotnet.org/stuff/mbp-isight.jpg

Would Apple have gone so far as moving the microphone (which used to be under the left speaker grille) to a more appropriate position??

Cheers
Steffen.

I think that's the light sensor, not the microphone. Put something small over it and see what happens. I'm not sure where the microphone is.

gehenna
14th August 2009, 02:53 PM
its the light sensor, having a metal bezel means the light can't get through like it does on the glass bezel.

another reason the glossy display is better :p

MissionMan
14th August 2009, 02:55 PM
its the light sensor, having a metal bezel means the light can't get through like it does on the glass bezel.

another reason the glossy display is better :p

Having a glossy screen is for people who spend all their time looking at porn on the web so they want the laptop equivalent of a mirror on their ceiling. :p

dotnet
14th August 2009, 02:59 PM
its the light sensor, having a metal bezel means the light can't get through like it does on the glass bezel.

Actually, the green iSight activity light gets through the metal just fine (one of those Apple magic tricks) ;)

Cheers
Steffen.

gehenna
14th August 2009, 02:59 PM
Having a glossy screen is for people who spend all their time looking at porn on the web so they want the laptop equivalent of a mirror on their ceiling. :p

How did you get into my house?!