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Lasha
21st June 2004, 06:45 AM
Guys! I've been waiting for such a long time for Apple to announce the new PowerBook G5s! When is it going to happen? I am collecting money for a PowerBook G4 15inch right now, but if I even hear a hint from Apple that it's in development, I will save up even more for the G5 PowerBook! Does anyone have any information on new line of PowerBooks???

Gothikon
21st June 2004, 07:55 AM
I'm sure they are trying which I guess means it is in development. However I wouldn't expect to see one much / if before this time next year.

Currawong
21st June 2004, 09:47 AM
I think if they attempted to produce a G5 Powerbook now, it would end up looking rather like this (http://www.danamania.com/gallery/vhacks/abp).

Lasha
21st June 2004, 09:57 AM
Nah, I don't think it'll look like that at all! Trust me, Apple has more than enough technology to put the G5 processor into the current shapes and sizes of PowerBooks. Who knows, they are probably already working on concepts and etc. for the G5 PowerBook.

pipsqeek
21st June 2004, 11:05 AM
well, recent news showed that Apple has run into a brick wall with the 3GHz G5...and they give a pretty good indication of the idea that there will be no such thing as a G5 PB any time soon.

Although it would be very nice to see such a machine, its not going to happen this year.

Steve

Lasha
21st June 2004, 11:21 AM
If Apple can make G5 processors for the desktops, then they could make G5 processors for the PowerBooks as well. Minimum of 1.8 or 2.0GHz? I bet that it'd be a piece of cake for them!

decryption
21st June 2004, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Lasha@Jun 21 2004, 11:21 AM
If Apple can make G5 processors for the desktops, then they could make G5 processors for the PowerBooks as well. Minimum of 1.8 or 2.0GHz? I bet that it'd be a piece of cake for them!
hahah, you're so naive :)

123
21st June 2004, 12:07 PM
my g4 powerbook gets more than hot enough at the moment. the desktops obviously get quite hot, seeing as the latest revisions went with water-cooling, good luck cramming one into a laptop.
the g4 made it in but consider that the g4 was also put into the cube with no fan.
i'm with the people who believe that there will be a separate laptop chip developed especially to be put into powerbooks in the place of the g5, the g5 mini B)

Phillip
21st June 2004, 03:46 PM
in single processor the g5 performs the same as the g4 at the same clock speed, or has little advantage compared to dual g5s... i think apple will only do it because they can market the g5 name on a notebook.

hawker
21st June 2004, 04:53 PM
I can't see a PowerBook G5 in the near future. I'd love to see one, but as a few people have said, the G5 is a beast, and will take a fair bit of work to get into a smaller chip.

Why do you think there was a long pause between the first rev. of the G4 and the G4 powerbook? Powermac G4 came out in 1999, and Powerbook G4 came out in 2001. I think it'll be about the same time period.

My information was obtained from: http://www.apple-history.com/

cmetom
21st June 2004, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by decryption+Jun 21 2004, 12:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (decryption @ Jun 21 2004, 12:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lasha@Jun 21 2004, 11:21 AM
If Apple can make G5 processors for the desktops, then they could make G5 processors for the PowerBooks as well. Minimum of 1.8 or 2.0GHz? I bet that it&#39;d be a piece of cake for them&#33;
hahah, you&#39;re so naive :) [/b][/quote]
heheh isn&#39;t his optimism adorable??&#33; :) :lol:

Cam
21st June 2004, 08:44 PM
Correct me if im wrong..

G4 PB&#39;s are already experiencing heat problems, what makes you think you could put a G5 in a notebook.. Have you seen the case designs for the G5 desktop? These things are structurely designed to decipate heat which probably means that apple hit a brick wall designing the G5 workstation, let alone a laptop..

The only way I could see Apple releasing a G5 laptop is if they changed the chip itself.. Clocked it down, or did something.. You might be able to see a G5-M ;)

Think logically.. The G5 technology is quite advanced..

OziMac
21st June 2004, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Currawong@Jun 21 2004, 09:47 AM
I think if they attempted to produce a G5 Powerbook now, it would end up looking rather like this (http://www.danamania.com/gallery/vhacks/abp).
Haha - it&#39;s the Powerbook G5 Cuboid&#33;&#33;&#33; :D

Cam
21st June 2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by OziMac+Jun 21 2004, 09:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OziMac @ Jun 21 2004, 09:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Currawong@Jun 21 2004, 09:47 AM
I think if they attempted to produce a G5 Powerbook now, it would end up looking rather like this (http://www.danamania.com/gallery/vhacks/abp).
Haha - it&#39;s the Powerbook G5 Cuboid&#33;&#33;&#33; :D [/b][/quote]
iBrick

Currawong
22nd June 2004, 08:34 AM
From memory, IBM has suffered some setbacks in its chip development. I can&#39;t remember where I read up on it, but the process of manufacturing chips covers a course of many months, and a single setback wrecks things months down the track. If I recall correctly, they had a serious setback when they started manufacturing 90nm chips.

hawker
22nd June 2004, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Currawong@Jun 22 2004, 08:34 AM
From memory, IBM has suffered some setbacks in its chip development.
no way... IBM having problems... setbacks even LOL

Currawong
23rd June 2004, 09:20 AM
Not no way unfortunately.

MeRcUrY
26th June 2004, 10:47 PM
I wouldn&#39;t expect any until next year. Even with the new water cooled 2.5Ghz G5 the heat sink and cooling is still just the same size as the old 2Ghz G5. Try getting that into a 1 inch case.

:lol:

Byrd
27th June 2004, 11:58 AM
Aren&#39;t the new &#39;rumoured&#39; XBox 2 specs going to include an IBM 3.5Ghz PowerPC 970 CPU? I&#39;m quite sure a CPU designed for console use wouldn&#39;t require huge amounts of cooling - and I thought the IBM G5 chips were designed to be scalable up to 5Ghz + speeds.

G5 chips do run fairly hot, but when compared to comparable Pentium 4 CPUs (especially Prescotts) there is little difference. Apple chose to watercool their 2.5Ghz dual G5 machines for silent computing and innovation IMHO.

PS. A watercooled Pentium 4 notebook has already been made by Hitachi:LINK (http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2002Jul/chi20020719015488.htm) :)

Currawong
27th June 2004, 03:51 PM
Arstechnica.com has rumoured info. However, it doesn&#39;t suggest the processors will be PPC970. I strongly suspect, being that the 970&#39;s abilities come a great deal from the altivec unit, and that games are very rarely to never altivec optimised, that IBM are making something along the lines of a massively overclocked G3 for the Xbox.

The reason I suggest this is there were various tidbits about IBM&#39;s G3 developments, including those relating to DDR compatability.