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pacific
8th February 2009, 08:44 PM
Hi

I'm planning to get Pixelmator as a cheaper alternative to Photoshop. However, it doesn't have an optimize for web feature built in.

Does anyone know of a reasonably priced (or free), well designed stand alone image optimizer?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Cheers

decryption
8th February 2009, 09:21 PM
Why do you need "optimise for web"?

It's a pretty old feature that no-one really uses anymore do they?

pacific
8th February 2009, 09:25 PM
No no it's definitely a needed feature. Image editors save files way too big to be used for websites.

Any serious website will have it's images optimized.

decryption
8th February 2009, 09:29 PM
How does it optimise them?
(72dpi, lower colour depth, higher compression level?)

forgie
8th February 2009, 10:14 PM
I'm sure there are some free, open source command line image optimisation apps, but they aren't going to help very much if you want a GUI.

MissionMan
8th February 2009, 10:24 PM
Depends what sort of optimizing you are talking about. Download a trial for picturesque. Its pretty cheap and it does some good stuff for web publishing.

pacific
9th February 2009, 10:30 AM
Sorry, I should have been clearer. By optimizing, I mean balancing file size with image quality.

Picturesque doesn't seem to be what I'm after unfortunately, thanks though.

MissionMan
9th February 2009, 10:55 AM
You can do that with something free like Nikon View.

geektechnu
9th February 2009, 11:12 AM
I suggest putting PNG and GIF (non-animated) images through PNGCrusher
It's a GUI version of the OptiPNG command line tool.

Automatic PNG optimization: PNGCrusher (http://www.amake.us/software/pngcrusher/) (original PPC version)
Maniacal Rage: Reading post (http://log.maniacalrage.net/post/26344826/pngcrusher-for-intel-macs) (newer intel port)

Usually gives a significant reduction in filesize with no quality loss.

pacific
9th February 2009, 11:15 AM
Doesn't do .jpeg's though? :(

There seems to be a severe shortage of these applications on OS X.

MissionMan
9th February 2009, 11:31 AM
Doesn't do .jpeg's though? :(

There seems to be a severe shortage of these applications on OS X.

As I said, Nikon View. It works on OSX does JPG's, and does everything you want plus more.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1071/3264469923_e2bc81b479.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/3265303126_7d6461e2a5.jpg

pacific
9th February 2009, 02:50 PM
Thanks for finding and posting that MissionMan, but i've decided to just go with Photoshop Elements. It's only $20 more than Pixelmator, and has image optimising plus loads more features.

Thanks everyone.

marc
9th February 2009, 03:07 PM
Can't Pixelmator reduce the quality of JPEGs as it saves? That's all Photoshop does.

I use PNGCrusher for PNGs: Automatic PNG optimization: PNGCrusher (http://www.amake.us/software/pngcrusher/)

decryption
9th February 2009, 03:09 PM
Can't Pixelmator reduce the quality of JPEGs as it saves? That's all Photoshop does.

I use PNGCrusher for PNGs: Automatic PNG optimization: PNGCrusher (http://www.amake.us/software/pngcrusher/)

Pixelmator does let you reduced JPG quality. Not PNG's though.


Pacific: Still don't know why you'd need to do anything beyond reducing the compression of the JPG/PNG. Pixelmator is way nicer to use, but hey, you're the one having to use Photoshop, not me, so godspeed :thumbup:

marc
9th February 2009, 03:21 PM
Pixelmator does let you reduced JPG quality. Not PNG's though.
There isn't much you need to do with PNGs... just compress as normal, then strip out the extra useless meta data (which is what PNGCrusher generally does).

pacific
9th February 2009, 03:23 PM
Hmmm....I guess I could just hang out for them to build on the features. I believe a "save for web" feature is coming in 1.5.

I find PS Elements fine to use, certainly no major differences anyway. Only advantage Pixelmator has in that regard is the more appealing interface.

Peter Wells
9th February 2009, 03:27 PM
i tend to use photoshop then screen grab the image with skitch..

decryption
9th February 2009, 03:45 PM
i tend to use photoshop then screen grab the image with skitch..

You hack Pete. That's not how it's done. Naughty Pete.

Flinders1231
9th February 2009, 04:02 PM
Does anyone know of a reasonably priced (or free), well designed stand alone image optimizer?

Have you considered GraphicConverter? "You can edit images to add hotlinks for Web use, and the new Save For Web dialog gives you a neat, centralized place to optimize Web graphics"

marc
9th February 2009, 05:07 PM
Hmmm....I guess I could just hang out for them to build on the features. I believe a "save for web" feature is coming in 1.5.

I find PS Elements fine to use, certainly no major differences anyway. Only advantage Pixelmator has in that regard is the more appealing interface.
The normal "Save As" can't save in suitable format? I haven't used Pixelmator too much, so I'm not sure...