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Narooma
28th December 2008, 11:02 AM
Oh boy oh boy.....Jailbreaking??? Is it for me?

So many people say that Apple can't tell and so many people say Apple can tell even after a full restore.

I want to, but I DO NOT want to jeopardise my warranty.

Piratbyran
28th December 2008, 11:06 AM
They can't tell. End of story.

Narooma
28th December 2008, 01:31 PM
They can't tell. End of story.

What knowledge do you base that on?

Piratbyran
28th December 2008, 01:39 PM
Knowledge (http://www.google.com)

Narooma
28th December 2008, 02:28 PM
Knowledge (http://www.google.com)

Well "knowledge" works for and against arguments in many scenarios that rely for the greater extent on anecdotal urban myths that get continuously disseminated.

A person on another forum has posted this as evidence that Apple can in fact use a program that can see that an iPhone has at some stage in it's life been jailbroken -

http://www.grabup.com/uploads/8dd722341ecd9cdefcd759d033dcf13b.png?direct

dolbinau
28th December 2008, 02:42 PM
That is certainly concerning.

Beau
28th December 2008, 02:55 PM
Well "knowledge" works for and against arguments in many scenarios that rely for the greater extent on anecdotal urban myths that get continuously disseminated.

A person on another forum has posted this as evidence that Apple can in fact use a program that can see that an iPhone has at some stage in it's life been jailbroken -

http://www.grabup.com/uploads/8dd722341ecd9cdefcd759d033dcf13b.png?direct

But that is someone with Winterboard + MobileSubstrate + 5 icon dock mod installed. Hence, it's jailbroken :rolleyes:

Restore, set up as a new phone, and you won't get those messages obviously.

timothy
28th December 2008, 03:40 PM
I want to, but I DO NOT want to jeopardise my warranty.

What are you...

Chicken!!!


Only joking, I haven't Jailbroken, But it's NO big deal.
It's just a mobile-phone. Get the most you can out of it.

decryption
28th December 2008, 07:07 PM
If you restore the iPhone back to normal before giving it to Apple, they won't know. However, if you foobar the iPhone to a point where it can't be restored and it's a warranty job, then you're stuffed as Apple *may* find out. Whether they care or spend the time digging to find out if you did jailbreak it is another story.

End of the day, if you're hesitant, I recommend not jailbreaking. You buy Apple gear so it "just works" right? Don't go fucking with what El Jobso intended unless you're comfortable without his seal of approval :)

wmyeoh
28th December 2008, 11:05 PM
I know this has been discussed ad nauseam in other threads, but I haven't seen a discussion about it recentlly. For those of you who have jailbroken, can you list the possible benefits for those of us who are thinking about jailbreaking?

I'll get the ball rolling:

1) Tethering
2) Backgrounder
3) Winterboard
4) Video Recording...

Ralph Nader
28th December 2008, 11:08 PM
Jailbreaking should only affect warranty claims to the extent that the jb caused the problem. If the two things are unrelated then there should be no excuse for Apple to reject a warranty claim. For example, if the battery dies and won't recharge, this is nothing to do with the software side of things so it should make no difference if the phone is jb or not.

wmyeoh
29th December 2008, 01:23 AM
I haven't been able to find the answer to this question anywhere - if jailbreaking for the first time, will I lose SMSs?

dolbinau
29th December 2008, 06:13 AM
I haven't been able to find the answer to this question anywhere - if jailbreaking for the first time, will I lose SMSs?

You can restore from iPhone Back up.

Narooma
29th December 2008, 07:16 AM
Jailbreaking should only affect warranty claims to the extent that the jb caused the problem. If the two things are unrelated then there should be no excuse for Apple to reject a warranty claim. For example, if the battery dies and won't recharge, this is nothing to do with the software side of things so it should make no difference if the phone is jb or not.

I would disagree.

TheKeddi
29th December 2008, 07:23 AM
I would disagree.

Then don't do it, simple.

I would love to but I have the alum macbook and it won't let me :-(

Narooma
29th December 2008, 08:02 AM
The temptation is there.

Though on my 32gb touch everytime I have JB'n it, the poorer battery life and noticable lag do become frustrating.

Quamen
29th December 2008, 08:03 AM
Jailbreaking should only affect warranty claims to the extent that the jb caused the problem. If the two things are unrelated then there should be no excuse for Apple to reject a warranty claim. For example, if the battery dies and won't recharge, this is nothing to do with the software side of things so it should make no difference if the phone is jb or not.

If they see it is jailbroken they don't have to do anything to help you. They might decide to be nice and fix it anyway but they certainly don't have to.

Lumus
29th December 2008, 08:28 AM
If the device has been modified in any way outside the manufacturers specs (including custom software) then that's definite grounds for a voided warranty.... if they find out :-)

wmyeoh
29th December 2008, 09:43 AM
Well, I took the plunge last night following all the instructions from iclarified.com, and WhiteiPhone's guide, and I still can't get the phone in DFU mode, regardless of what I do.

I'm trying following the prompts in PwnageTool, and also here,

Apple Forums | ModMyi.com | iPhone, iPod, Mac, OS X, Mods, More - View Single Post - iphone error (6) (http://www.modmyi.com/forums/1809501-post4.html)

and I keep getting this error.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4387/picture1db5.png

Any hints?

EDIT: I'm using an early 2008 MBP, Leopard 10.5.6

EDIT (2): Ohhhhhh

iPhone 3G to be unlocked, dev team speaks about DFU problems - The Unofficial Apple Weblog (TUAW) (http://www.tuaw.com/2008/12/16/iphone-3g-now-unlocked-dev-team-speaks-about-dfu-problems/)

EDIT (3): Even with a Mac running 10.5.5, I still can't get it to restore in DFU mode (error 1600), or get it to restore in Recovery mode (error 21). Arghhh....

EDIT (4!): Finally got it working using QuickPwn instead of Pwnage Tool on a Mac running 10.5.5. Finally, success!

Beau
29th December 2008, 02:29 PM
Straight from the horses' mouth;

http://img.skitch.com/20081229-exu8a9wyuuhy1w4ap6db9538xi.jpg

Narooma
29th December 2008, 10:18 PM
How come we can't get AppleCare for the iPhone in Australia?

Ralph Nader
30th December 2008, 12:23 AM
The critical phrase in that letter from Apple is "the inability to use your iPhone due to unauthorised software modifications". It doesn't say that hardware faults are also excluded if the software has been modified.

Many years ago, photocopier manufacturers used to say that your warranty was void if you didn't use their brand of photocopy paper! I mean, if the software in the photocopier fails, what difference does it make whose bloody paper you used? thankfully, consumer protection agencies around the world collectively told them to pull their heads in.