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Krizto
11th November 2008, 10:56 PM
Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone thinks I can do better then $1,799 for the MB466X ???

Standard config, nothing special.

Cheers, Chris.

chrsha01
11th November 2008, 11:00 PM
Out of interest, where did you get the price of $1799 from?

DeanCorp
11th November 2008, 11:01 PM
That's a pretty good deal! Where did you get that from as RRP is $2099

Huy
11th November 2008, 11:36 PM
I would also like to hear how you can get it for $1799 out of interest. :)

djiashi
11th November 2008, 11:38 PM
buy it!

and of course share where'd you get that from :D

chrsha01
11th November 2008, 11:40 PM
He found this price when searching through eBay.

(I warned him that for this price, it seems fairly "dodgy")

djiashi
11th November 2008, 11:43 PM
here? (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-Apple-MacBook-Notebbok-MB466X-A-13-3-TFT-NEW-MODEL_W0QQitemZ130268306899QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m130268306899&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318)

probably call the contact number there and ask him why so cheap

the 2.4ghz model is going for 2299 from the same seller

noidea
12th November 2008, 12:19 AM
well, just to remind that i bought mine from David jones. Look at my other thread. My macbook was faulty. I was lucky that i bought it from DJ and have them replace for a new macbook. I have consider buying from ebay but i going oversea in Dec so that i can claim the GST at the Airport. I end up paying abt $1900.

It said 12 months manufacturer warranty but i doubt that since they are not authorised Apple retailer. Goodluck if it is faulty.

Huy
12th November 2008, 12:28 AM
It said 12 months manufacturer warranty but i doubt that since they are not authorised Apple retailer. Goodluck if it is faulty.

You are covered for 12 months warranty regardless of where you purchased it from.

If I bought the MacBook on eBay, I can still take it to an Apple Store for repairs/servicing.

DOA/returns/exchange is another story.

decryption
12th November 2008, 12:30 AM
You are covered for 12 months warranty regardless of where you purchased it from.

If I bought the MacBook on eBay, I can still take it to an Apple Store for repairs/servicing.

DOA/returns/exchange is another story.

And if you'll actually get the item sent to you...
eBay is not to be trusted for large purchases like this to save a couple of bucks.

BoxDog
12th November 2008, 11:17 PM
I pinged the guy to see if he'd give me the serial # and if I can pick up. I wonder if it's brand new..

zigzagler
13th November 2008, 10:07 AM
the seller seems genuine by the look ont he feedback though...anyone else have any feedback here? They seem to provide Tax Invoice as well.

looks too good to be true......

BoxDog
13th November 2008, 02:53 PM
It looks like it's worthy of more inspection. I've asked for the serial number and/or whether he'll let me pick it up (from Footscray.. guess I'll have to tighten my wheel nuts if I go out there) Also wanted to know if it's still sealed, what happens if it's DOA, and whether he can tell me why so cheap?

Here's antoher from a guy in Sydney, for $1900 (still cheaper than edu/EPP discount): NEW GENERATION APPLE MACBOOK MB466X/A RRP $2099 - eBay Other Apple Laptops, Laptops, Apple, Computers. (end time 10-Dec-08 00:52:55 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-GENERATION-APPLE-MACBOOK-MB466X-A-RRP-2099_W0QQitemZ200273443147QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p 3286.m20.l1116)

dche5390
13th November 2008, 03:08 PM
Does seem too good to be true...but oh so very tempting

zigzagler
13th November 2008, 03:13 PM
It looks like it's worthy of more inspection. I've asked for the serial number and/or whether he'll let me pick it up (from Footscray.. guess I'll have to tighten my wheel nuts if I go out there) Also wanted to know if it's still sealed, what happens if it's DOA, and whether he can tell me why so cheap?

Here's antoher from a guy in Sydney, for $1900 (still cheaper than edu/EPP discount): NEW GENERATION APPLE MACBOOK MB466X/A RRP $2099 - eBay Other Apple Laptops, Laptops, Apple, Computers. (end time 10-Dec-08 00:52:55 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-GENERATION-APPLE-MACBOOK-MB466X-A-RRP-2099_W0QQitemZ200273443147QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p 3286.m20.l1116)

Agree, I've checked with the seller to confirm on the Tax Invoice & delivery. The buy it now price I got from him is $2799 for 2.4Ghz MBP & $3690 for the 2.53Ghz model MBP.

Apparently I checked with one of the recent buyer to confirm about the Tax Invoice & it turns out to be genuine but the box isn't shrink wrapped anymore. Everything inside is new as claimed.

................Another investigation on the way..........

forgie
13th November 2008, 03:24 PM
This has got to be "grey" or "hot"... why else would an eBay seller based in Footscray be selling a brand new Macbook at below cost price?

hachoo
13th November 2008, 03:44 PM
Does accept Paypal.... and so far only one person has bought the $1799 Macbook Aluminium. There are quite a few for Auction and Buy It Now prices.... so I'd probably be more inclined to see how those go. The users only neg. feedback is from a PS3 sale where they were charged an extra $200 apparently.

I'm going overseas soon, so the extra 10% off that making it closer to $1650 after shipping makes it very appealing... but I'd wait it out.

macnev
13th November 2008, 04:07 PM
i got a alu macbook that went for 1550 on my watch list a couple of weeks ago from a good seller,I should of bid :(
also, this guy seems perfectly fine, check his feedback, loads of apple gear, just make sure you use paypal for extra cover.

zigzagler
13th November 2008, 04:20 PM
Does accept Paypal.... and so far only one person has bought the $1799 Macbook Aluminium. There are quite a few for Auction and Buy It Now prices.... so I'd probably be more inclined to see how those go. The users only neg. feedback is from a PS3 sale where they were charged an extra $200 apparently.

I'm going overseas soon, so the extra 10% off that making it closer to $1650 after shipping makes it very appealing... but I'd wait it out.

how do you get the extra 10% off?

hachoo
13th November 2008, 04:44 PM
how do you get the extra 10% off?

TRS GST as the Macbook i'm getting probably won't be coming back to Australia and thus subjected to possible GST tax on the way back.

BoxDog
13th November 2008, 04:47 PM
how do you get the extra 10% off?

thru the tourist refund scheme, they refund your gst. I'm going overseas in December so I'm also tempted to take up this offer.

I do wonder how legit this is, tho given the quantity of apple gear they're selling i'm sure they would be pretty stupid to sell it all on eBay for such good prices if it was hot. I asked the guy and he said they "buy with volume discounts" which sounds a bit shady to me. Is there anyone here who has knowledge of apple's discounting or can check if any recent shipments have fallen off the back of a truck?

BoxDog
13th November 2008, 04:49 PM
TRS GST as the Macbook i'm getting probably won't be coming back to Australia and thus subjected to possible GST tax on the way back.

suuuuure it won't :P

hachoo
13th November 2008, 05:02 PM
suuuuure it won't :P

Shhhhhhh..... ATO is on to me.

Anyway, I will be sure to check the cost price at work to see if it really is possible. I remember the old Nano 3G 8GB pricing at $249 had a cost of around $200... and iTouches had a little more money in them, but I'm not sure of 'mark ups' on laptops.

BoxDog
13th November 2008, 06:21 PM
I've got a friend whos missus works *for* apple (as a lowly retail account manager, or something). but who better than her to find out exactly how low apple will go!

hachoo
13th November 2008, 06:52 PM
I've got a friend whos missus works *for* apple (as a lowly retail account manager, or something). but who better than her to find out exactly how low apple will go!

Possible to get pricing?

jack112006
13th November 2008, 07:10 PM
I have just been browsing eBay and just found a MacBook Pro 15' Late 2008 for 2375 and the seller has a pretty good reputation... weird.

BoxDog
13th November 2008, 07:57 PM
Possible to get pricing?

Nope. already tried that avenue. But I'll see if she can give me a yes/no on this guy. She couldn't even get an iPhone when they were released. :(

Strangely enough I refreshed and the Buy Now of that previous Macbook is now $1929. WTF? Has he just jacked up his prices?

Huy
13th November 2008, 08:05 PM
I have just been browsing eBay and just found a MacBook Pro 15' Late 2008 for 2375 and the seller has a pretty good reputation... weird.

$2375? They're $3199 new (RRP). :eek:

dche5390
13th November 2008, 08:36 PM
Is it me or did the same eBay MacBook in question is not $1979?

BoxDog
13th November 2008, 09:29 PM
Is it me or did the same eBay MacBook in question is not $1979?

Nope. (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-Apple-MacBook-Notebbok-MB466X-A-13-3-TFT-NEW-MODEL_W0QQitemZ130268306899QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m130268306899&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318) $1929.

I can get the same thing from the genuine Apple store for $1973 thru my EPP discount so I'm hardly gunna risk it all for $40 difference.

hachoo
13th November 2008, 11:28 PM
Can get better with the 10% deal from JB/DSE when it comes around again.

Will be interesting to see how the actual auctions go and how much for. I'll see if I can get the cost price.

BoxDog
14th November 2008, 06:57 AM
Just heard back from my friend. She reckons $1799 is lower than retail cost but the way they would have done it was thru being an educational reseller and tacking on a small margin.

As an aside my friend I converted to mac earlier this year bought a MacBook as a student and says she didn't have to enter any proof she was a student other than selecting a uni. Do apple have access to tertiary student lists to confirm? Also she mentioned edu pricing applies to parents and teachers too. Hmm. I know a few parents ;)

dche5390
14th November 2008, 07:32 AM
Its not $1799 any more...according to eBay, the seller has somehow jacked the price up to $1929.
I think I'll wait for the next 10-15% off.

zigzagler
14th November 2008, 09:50 AM
don't you guys find it weird that the winning bid is so close to the seller's Buy It Now price?

Ok. I'll let you guys judge it by yourself:

Have a look at this item (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160294005009). Take note that the Buy It Now price offered is $3690.

ok. That's history.

Now, keep an eye on this item (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=140280989046):

Now let's just wait & see how much is the winning bid....suspicious...

BoxDog
14th November 2008, 11:35 AM
don't you guys find it weird that the winning bid is so close to the seller's Buy It Now price?


No, not really, it IS eBay... Besides I woudl find it much, much weirder if the winning bid EXCEEDED the buy now price!



Have a look at this item (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160294005009). Take note that the Buy It Now price offered is $3690.


Well, look at the bidding history on this item. There was a bidding war of sorts up to the end:

Bidder 3 AU $3,650.00
29-Oct-08 19:14:27 AEDST
Bidder 3 AU $3,650.00
29-Oct-08 00:18:28 AEDST
Bidder 3 AU $3,650.00
26-Oct-08 21:23:53 AEDST
Bidder 8 AU $3,600.00
28-Oct-08 23:14:57 AEDST
Bidder 8 AU $3,500.00
28-Oct-08 23:14:31 AEDST

This doesnt seem too suspicious to me. What are you getting at? That this guy has mates helping him jack the price up? perhaps, but if they won the bid he's out of pocket on the eBay final success fees... which is about $50 on an item this value.

hachoo
14th November 2008, 01:06 PM
Just realised that if you were in primary/high school, you could potentially get 50% off (or up to $750) off the purchase of a laptop under certain conditions. That may be a plus for some on top of the 10-15% off sales that are going around.

Anyway, does seem a bit dodgy. Someone has just bought a Macbook off them for $1799 and left good feedback. Buyer has 0 feedback though... but signed up in June.

BoxDog
14th November 2008, 04:02 PM
Just realised that if you were in primary/high school, you could potentially get 50% off (or up to $750) off the purchase of a laptop under certain conditions. That may be a plus for some on top of the 10-15% off sales that are going around.


OMG how would they get that amount of edu discount?

ZacG
14th November 2008, 04:08 PM
Just to clear something up about the Tourist Refund Scheme when you return to Australia, you're obliged to pay the GST you got back when you left. All it is made to do is allow international visitors to buy goods without having to pay our sales taxes. Australians still have a legal obligation to pay.

hachoo
14th November 2008, 04:14 PM
OMG how would they get that amount of edu discount?

It's the new thing under the Education Tax Refund Scheme from July 1. It's not Apple education discount.

On return, you are 'eligible' to pay the GST of the product. I wouldn't say legally pay, as it is up to the Customs officer as to whether they will implicate the fee. Talking to a someone I know who works in Customs, it is sometimes a hassle to fill out all the paper work and organising everything... so they don't usually care. However it is very individualistic... so you may be required to pay in some cases.

tupps
14th November 2008, 06:09 PM
If you don't declare it and you get caught, you can end up with whole bunch of other problems as well.

Also if you have to pay customs on 1 thing you have to pay customs on everything. Once you are over the limit the 1.5 litres of alcohol, etc etc has to be payed as well.

benzoenator
14th November 2008, 06:22 PM
It's the new thing under the Education Tax Refund Scheme from July 1. It's not Apple education discount.

On return, you are 'eligible' to pay the GST of the product. I wouldn't say legally pay, as it is up to the Customs officer as to whether they will implicate the fee. Talking to a someone I know who works in Customs, it is sometimes a hassle to fill out all the paper work and organising everything... so they don't usually care. However it is very individualistic... so you may be required to pay in some cases.

I'm actually under the umbrella of this by the looks of things - so you can wipe the full $750 off a single laptop purchase by simply by keeping your receipt and declaring it at the accountant next year?

hachoo
14th November 2008, 07:45 PM
If you don't declare it and you get caught, you can end up with whole bunch of other problems as well.


Border Security !! Same goes with drugs.

It is 50% for up to $750. So by keeping your receipt, you can claim it back in the next tax rebate. Correcto benzo.

BTW, this is very off-topic. Any more Q's should probably be moved to a new thread.

BoxDog
15th November 2008, 10:10 AM
Might as well close this thread. I just bought it for $1799 - using it right now and it's completely flawless as advertised. He let me have it for $1799 despite raising the price, apparently they bought a batch for a really good price and $1929 is their new price going forward. I did my due diligence and despite being in a dodgy area of town they are a legit company with a showroom and all. I even got a tax invoice with an ABN and my name/address on it for the TRS (which I am neither confirming nor denying if I will use)

Guess the moral of the story is... you snooze you lose! :)

macnev
15th November 2008, 10:28 AM
so did you buy it through a auction or privately by mesaging them?

dche5390
15th November 2008, 11:28 AM
I"m gonna try to get one for 1799 too. Any chance that I could get you (BoxDog) to help me out since you've been to their actual store front? I'm in Sydney.

BoxDog
15th November 2008, 02:23 PM
Bought thru calling the guy on his phone. None of you guys had the balls :D I spoke to him the other day when the price was still $1799 and he knew me from the first call and said it was fine to buy since it was the last one he had in stock they 'd bought at the "special" price and I'd spoken to him prior. I guess if he sold it at $1929 per the buy now price, he'd have lost $55ish on the final value fee, so to him it would be meeting me halfway anyway.

dche5390... sure thing mate. PM me your iChat or something and I'll do what I can to help. The guy's name is Eric and he's quite helpful. The place itself is a bit crappy looking (old warehouse in the middle of Industryville USA) and it has several boards on the front for various things they sell (those racecar kids beds, poker tables, security systems, random furniture stuff, etc). But the business name Genero Online Shopping. ABN details here. ABNLookup - Current details for 34132037122 (http://www.abr.business.gov.au/search.aspx?SearchText=34132037122&StartSearch=True) . I figure if they're welcoming people to pickup goods, have a showroom full of stock, and a genuine ABN, it all looks legit to me.

From what he told me, this was the last 2.0Ghz he had at that price, but just say you're a friend of steve's who went in this morning and wanted to know if he had any more at that $1799 (or even the 2.4s at a good price, I guess?). Maybe its worth bearing in mind he would be spending $55-60 to sell it on eBay anyway, so maybe even offer to meet him at $1850 or thereabouts so he's not out of pocket if he declines!!

hachoo
15th November 2008, 02:23 PM
I"m gonna try to get one for 1799 too. Any chance that I could get you (BoxDog) to help me out since you've been to their actual store front? I'm in Sydney.

Ditto :)

noidea
16th November 2008, 09:11 AM
Bought thru calling the guy on his phone. None of you guys had the balls :D I spoke to him the other day when the price was still $1799 and he knew me from the first call and said it was fine to buy since it was the last one he had in stock they 'd bought at the "special" price and I'd spoken to him prior. I guess if he sold it at $1929 per the buy now price, he'd have lost $55ish on the final value fee, so to him it would be meeting me halfway anyway.

dche5390... sure thing mate. PM me your iChat or something and I'll do what I can to help. The guy's name is Eric and he's quite helpful. The place itself is a bit crappy looking (old warehouse in the middle of Industryville USA) and it has several boards on the front for various things they sell (those racecar kids beds, poker tables, security systems, random furniture stuff, etc). But the business name Genero Online Shopping. ABN details here. ABNLookup - Current details for 34132037122 (http://www.abr.business.gov.au/search.aspx?SearchText=34132037122&StartSearch=True) . I figure if they're welcoming people to pickup goods, have a showroom full of stock, and a genuine ABN, it all looks legit to me.

From what he told me, this was the last 2.0Ghz he had at that price, but just say you're a friend of steve's who went in this morning and wanted to know if he had any more at that $1799 (or even the 2.4s at a good price, I guess?). Maybe its worth bearing in mind he would be spending $55-60 to sell it on eBay anyway, so maybe even offer to meet him at $1850 or thereabouts so he's not out of pocket if he declines!!

so if the item is from USA then how can it have warranty by Apple Australia ?

BoxDog
16th November 2008, 02:15 PM
so if the item is from USA then how can it have warranty by Apple Australia ?

*groan* don't worry.

zigzagler
17th November 2008, 01:22 PM
anyone bought it thru ebay from this seller before? mind sharing the experience?

macnev
17th November 2008, 02:00 PM
anyone bought it thru ebay from this seller before? mind sharing the experience?

scroll up mate.....

dche5390
17th November 2008, 03:06 PM
Thought I'd provide an update:

I contacted the seller and they replied back the next day. They were happy to sell to me for $1,799 plus freight costs + insurance with a grand sum total of $1823. Corresspondence was quick and professional and as BoxDog can attest to, they are a genuine business in VIC.

I however have sourced a 2 week old MB (2.4, 4GB ram) for $1300 from a desparate seller in NT and am awaiting its arrival. Otherwise, I would have happily paid $1823 for a brand new unit from the seller in question.

I have also contacted another seller on eBay based in Campsie, NSW. They were happy to allow pickup of their brand new MB for $1900.

So there are some options out there and with enough investigative effort, you can find a good bargain should you miss out on any significant discount from JB Hifi etc.

BoxDog
17th November 2008, 05:10 PM
I however have sourced a 2 week old MB (2.4, 4GB ram) for $1300 from a desparate seller in NT and am awaiting its arrival. Otherwise, I would have happily paid $1823 for a brand new unit from the seller in question.


Wow. Now THAT is good buying! - well done you!

I agree - shop around and you'll get a bargain for sure. I am still delighted with mine and I think for $1300 you quite possibly got the cheapest new Macbook ever apart from stealing one from an Apple store. Speaking of which make sure it comes with the power supply and box! :)

nofear5100
19th November 2008, 09:43 PM
I think this business is legitimate. They have ABN and their company's name is LWY holding Co. I actually was going to buy a new Mac from them at the price of 1799 yesterday. When I decided to buy, they didnt have one available at that price on ebay. I sent an email asking for that price, Eric told me to come and pick it up. They have a warehouse in West Footscray on Somervile rd. Eric is the guy who incharges of computer stuff. Their major business is in poker table and everything else imported from China. I ended not getting one not because of I changed my mind but my stupid credit card didnt work ~sad~ ~sad~ I have to wait for a new credit card sent to me. I will come back next week hoping for the same price.

I dont know what source they got the Mac from but Eric told me the same thing "this is the last Mac I have at that price" lolz... You guys who are interested in the price of 1799 should definitely give him a call.

Jizo
19th November 2008, 10:11 PM
looks too good to be true......

Rule one of avoiding cons:

1) If it looks too good to be true it probably is.

I persoanlly wouldn't buy a laptop of eBay no matter how legit it looked.

zigzagler
19th November 2008, 11:12 PM
I think this business is legitimate. They have ABN and their company's name is LWY holding Co. I actually was going to buy a new Mac from them at the price of 1799 yesterday. When I decided to buy, they didnt have one available at that price on ebay. I sent an email asking for that price, Eric told me to come and pick it up. They have a warehouse in West Footscray on Somervile rd. Eric is the guy who incharges of computer stuff. Their major business is in poker table and everything else imported from China. I ended not getting one not because of I changed my mind but my stupid credit card didnt work ~sad~ ~sad~ I have to wait for a new credit card sent to me. I will come back next week hoping for the same price.

I dont know what source they got the Mac from but Eric told me the same thing "this is the last Mac I have at that price" lolz... You guys who are interested in the price of 1799 should definitely give him a call.

Isn't it "Genero Electronics Pty Ltd"?

BoxDog
20th November 2008, 05:32 PM
I saw LWY written on the warehouse and several brands that they trade as. Genero is obviously their electronics "arm". Not sure how it works but the ABN above is taken from their tax invoice and appears current so I have no reason to doubt it's not a legit business. The quantity of apple stuff they're selling online leads me to believe they're not just dumping a load of stolen Macbooks on ebay either.

Fact is that they exist in a large warehouse and so be it if they want to sell at that price and have no qualms about people coming to pick up their items rather than just post. The only thing that concerns me is that he said mine was the "last one at this price" as well. Probably just a cheesy sales tactic.

Sorry to say for anyone reading this thread the poor poster above who seemed to get an excellent price on a MBP for $1300 got gipped: http://forums.mactalk.com.au/28/62379-my-story-scammed-ebay-2.html

:(

noidea
21st November 2008, 01:06 AM
Thought I'd provide an update:

I contacted the seller and they replied back the next day. They were happy to sell to me for $1,799 plus freight costs + insurance with a grand sum total of $1823. Corresspondence was quick and professional and as BoxDog can attest to, they are a genuine business in VIC.

I however have sourced a 2 week old MB (2.4, 4GB ram) for $1300 from a desparate seller in NT and am awaiting its arrival. Otherwise, I would have happily paid $1823 for a brand new unit from the seller in question.

I have also contacted another seller on eBay based in Campsie, NSW. They were happy to allow pickup of their brand new MB for $1900.

So there are some options out there and with enough investigative effort, you can find a good bargain should you miss out on any significant discount from JB Hifi etc.

Let us know what is the update. I'm interested to know if this a good deal or you have been scammed. :D I wouldn't buy a 2 week old macbook for $1300. It sound too good to be true. Most likely there is something wrong if not then it is a scam. Goodluck to you.

RogerC
28th November 2008, 03:51 PM
Hi guys, just reading this article and decided to reply

I had been scammed on ebay when buying a macbook, didnt seem quite ok so used Paypal in case.
Just as I paid for it, ebay wrote said they pulled the buyer and item and not to pay, if I had then to lodge a paypal dispute.
Lodged a dispute and just today received my $950 back into my account.
In the interim I have been bidding on a few other black, 2.4 Ghz, 250 GB macbooks and low and behold one I was bidding on was sus, ebay wrote to me and advised me. Cant seem to buy these macbooks at a shop anywhere new, so ebay seems to be the only choice to get one sealed. Can anyone else advise otherwise?
So it seems a heck of a lot of scamming going on in ebay.
Cheers Roger