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iSlayer
4th April 2005, 08:38 AM
With tiger getting closer im interested to hear what widgets you may have created or may be working on or widgets that you would like someone to make.

Im putting the finishing touches on a tv guide widget and then im moving on to an xml/rss parser

im open to ideas for other widgets so if you have an idea let me know

macmate
4th April 2005, 08:45 AM
how about a flush widget that flushes cache and log files?

ie it could be a little widget with a few buttons, one button for internet cache files, another for system log files, another for crashlog files. etc etc. that way people that can't be bothered or just don't know how can actually delete these things. it would be a widget that you wouldn't always have visible but it would be handy nevertheless.

Ric

geektechnu
4th April 2005, 08:47 AM
A general non-validating xml parser would be cool :thumbup:

You could put all sorts of data through that - even raw HTML.

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 08:48 AM
yup thats could be done.not something i know how to do right now though.
i would think a perl script or something like that could be used to do th deleting

im thinking of doing a specialised australian weather widget and im also investigating doing an alarm clock widget

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by geektechnu@Apr 4 2005, 09:47 AM
A general non-validating xml parser would be cool :thumbup:

You could put all sorts of data through that - even raw HTML.
my tv guide widget is essentially an xml parser that does extra things.
it downloads the xml feeds then split them up and gets what it needs.

aslong as the feed uses a standard structure i can easily make a parser for rss feeds.

if you want to dump html then the widget would need to designed for each source.

im going to look at a html parser to get usage stats for bigpond and a few other isp's but each one will be designed for 1 html feed as the structure is always different

macmate
4th April 2005, 08:53 AM
another cool one could be spectre's webcam widget ;)

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 08:54 AM
again thats possible.
i belive you can view that through a normal webpage so it would just be a matter of linking the video source into a widget wich would be a simple
5 minute job

the_OM
4th April 2005, 08:55 AM
Are you going to post them somewhere for people to download them?
The tv guide and the cache and log flusher ideas sound like winners to me.

queraxus
4th April 2005, 08:58 AM
Will the tv guide widget be similar to the tv guide system used on Foxtel digital? I hope so.

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 08:59 AM
i wont release any widgets until tiger ships.
the tvguide widget is working nicely but it has problems under later builds so ill have to do some debugging when tiger comes out.

once they are complete ill post links here for sure.

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by queraxus@Apr 4 2005, 09:58 AM
Will the tv guide widget be similar to the tv guide system used on Foxtel digital? I hope so.
its based on the konfabulator widget "Whats on" which is made by another australian developer.

i dont know how the guide on foxtel works but im very hapy with mine.
its very user friendly and very simple.
it supports all channels including austar/foxtel/optus along with digital and high def channels.

it shows the current show along with the next 2 shows
its fairly limited on what it can show.
it uses the only free tv guide feed i know of in australia but it lacks data.
it doesnt show descriptions of shows or anything like that.
at the moment for each channel it shows the channel logo and then the current and next 2 shows.for each show the start time and name are shown.i havent seen the need for any other data and there is no way to add any more at this stage anyway

you can see the konfabulator version here
http://litespeed.aeoth.net/images/whatson.jpg

macmate
4th April 2005, 09:05 AM
since someone liked my idea for the flusher widget (has to have a toilet icon) i will suggest a less serious one. make a widget that does my job so that i can simply keep my computer at work and head down to the beach on sunny days.

queraxus
4th April 2005, 09:08 AM
islayer, that's a simplified version of the foxtel system.

Good enough for me.

mbd
4th April 2005, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by islayer@Apr 4 2005, 08:38 AM
With tiger getting closer im interested to hear what widgets you may have created or may be working on
I've been working on a couple - one is a small light that will flash red if a security update is available that you haven't installed yet. The other is a one that I worked on with a friend that is a Japanese Kana flash card widget (nicer than the one that is already online, of course :-P).

I might try and make an Internode usage widget sometime soonish. That'd be handy I reckon (for me anyway).

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 10:00 AM
that security update one is a good idea.
im up for an internode widget but it wouldnt happen till i move to them sometime this month.


as for my tv guide widget ive had a suggestion from someone at whirlpool to add support for the channel packages of foxtel/austar which i will impliment today

ill get some screenshots up tonight

Disko
4th April 2005, 10:10 AM
Would it be difficult to creat an Aussie ISP "mega widget" which you can choose your ISP from a list? It'd save many the trouble of looking around for their particular ISP's version.

Other widgets i'd like to see: Games! Stupid little games that i can dashboard in and out of.
A web browser - so we can all check out appletalk from work ;)
A terminal window

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 10:15 AM
there is a web broswer flaoting around somewhere.ill dig up the link tonight.

there was a bash terminal window that was released just after the wwdc build was given to devs.

there is a few games such as solitare,minesweeper and a few others around also

an ISP "mega Widget" wouldnt be easy but it can be done.
its no harder then making one for each isp.
but im limited by the fact im only with bigpond for now then ill be with internode so i can only do widgets for them at this stage.i might be able to pull off optus dialup(broadband aswell as its probably the same)

im up for it but it really depends how friendly the isps stats page is and how easily i can get the widget to login to the isps page

sikosis
4th April 2005, 10:25 AM
I was hoping someone might have made an AppleTalk widget for Konfab for the "New Posts" on the Forum. That'd just be a simple RSS reader ...

If someone isn't working on this, I'll have a shot at it (for Tiger).

Disko
4th April 2005, 10:27 AM
Well, it's not as simple as being an RSS reader - but if anyone would like to take a shot at it email me, and we can work something out.

(it has to be a good)

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 10:27 AM
i am doing one for dashboard that shows the recent posts from here and another to download the rss feed for the news items

Oh and Disko no ive had a few minutes to think about it i can do a web broswer widget.its actually very simple now i think about it.
i thought it would need a plugin but some good use of iframes will do it perfectly.

an update of widgets i will be doing.

Tv guide widget --75-80% complete
just have to impliment preference saving and fincish channel options

appletalk recent posts and news reader-0% complete
will be doing both tonight and expect to finish both tonight

bigpond/internode usage getter-0% complete
will start the bigpond widget later this week and internode in a few weeks time

web browser-0% complete
will potentially start and finish today.its a very simple widget from what ive worked out so far

Disko
4th April 2005, 10:53 AM
you can actually include OSX's webkit into widgets - so that makes the browser even easier.

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 10:57 AM
i dont even need to do that (well essentially all widgets include webkit because widgets are just webpages which are drawn with webkit).
my thinking is i have a address bar which has a text input box like a normal broswer.then i have a "go" button and when its click it will load the address in the address bar into an iframe inside the widget.
its very simple and will take less then an hour to make.

think ill do it in my lunch break :)

sikosis
4th April 2005, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by islayer@Apr 4 2005, 10:27 AM
appletalk recent posts and news reader-0% complete
will be doing both tonight and expect to finish both tonight
:thumbup: cool ... I'll just kick back and wait for tomorrow ... I was going to have a crack at it when I got home from work (no Mac's at work unfortunately).

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Disko@Apr 4 2005, 11:10 AM
A web browser - so we can all check out appletalk from
well Disko i have made you a web browser widget.
ill add a proper interface to it when i get home from work then send it to you

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 03:28 PM
I have a question for everyone.
with my tv guide widget it will allow you to have as many channels as you want so now i need a way to navgate between them if you list takes more height then you screen.

option 1.have next/previous buttons to navigate between pages which show a user defined number of channels.

option 2.put everything in an iframe which would allow for vertical scrolling.it would not effect anything else

they are the best 2 options i have so far so please let me know which one you would prefer from an end user point of view

sikosis
4th April 2005, 04:26 PM
@islayer ... just one feature I'd want ... I'm in QLD but I have Foxtel Analog Satellite, which means when Daylight Savings happens, I get all the shows on NSW time.

will it be capable of supporting that ? I use Samurize on my PC and I had to contact the dude, who made the TV Guide for Australia. He ended up putting in an offset value, but that means I have to manually update it for DLS.

Just curious ?

for your question ...

option 1 ... most likely ... with the ability to set the number of channels shown per page and also their order.

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 04:53 PM
hmm ill have to check on that.ill get back to you

Disko
4th April 2005, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by islayer@Apr 4 2005, 12:33 PM
well Disko i have made you a web browser widget.
ill add a proper interface to it when i get home from work then send it to you
Cool! can you make it spin around? I want eye candy damn it!! ;)

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 05:00 PM
sure can.
my tv guide widget does the cool flip thing :)
not sure what you want on the back though.
mayebe the start page option or somethng like that

titan44
4th April 2005, 05:30 PM
Before you do anymore coding islayer..... :)

Are you thinking ahead to a eyetv module for your widget creation
It'd be cool to have a tvguide widget that could queue a recording once the show is clicked.

it was something i was thinking of but a have neither a pre-relese of Tiger or a eyetv ( it's on the list, want to get a isight first ).

iSlayer
4th April 2005, 05:41 PM
way ahead of you :)
it wont be easy though
i need to wait for the release of tiger to do it.
i have to learn how to escape characters for it to work.
but i do have a applescript to add eyetv event so its just a matter of patching it in

iSlayer
8th April 2005, 03:51 PM
update time.
browser widget is dead.it works fine but has flaws.it cant detect if i site cant be found so it doesnt change state to reflect this.it also dies with yahoo.com since of the dodgy way there links work.

tv guide widget is looking very nice thanks to a great skin design by disko.

appletalk rss feed widget is going very nicely and more or less just needs a skin now.

im working on a comic strip widget with another deisgner which looks very promising.

im still looking for more ideas so let me know if you have one

sikosis
8th April 2005, 04:54 PM
hey islayer ... u sure about PHP being disabled by default ? it might not be active in Apache, but I was able to just bring up Terminal and work away on a script ...

iSlayer
10th April 2005, 08:25 PM
another update...
i have now made a fortune cookie/joke/fact widget.
its very similar to the fortune program in linux and unix.it has around 45000 cookies in it at this stage.

im currently working on a new widget which is used to track packages.it currently works with Australian Air Express and Star Track Express but i will definatly add more support to that.i got the idea from another widget that tracked fedex packages and thought it was a cool idea

Thats all for now....

Exocet
11th April 2005, 12:19 AM
Um. before anybody else starts making one - I intend to make a BOM Radar loop widget, and an Energex lightning tracker widget. No stealing my ideas now :)

AusMac
11th April 2005, 03:07 AM
Just something you may be interested in seeing (http://www.widgetdeveloper.com/forum.html)

AusMac
11th April 2005, 03:10 AM
I dunno how you would go about getting a BOM loop widget to work since I would normally use from three to ten loops, all from totally different radar sites within a couple of minutes on any normal BOM lookup.

iSlayer
11th April 2005, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by Exocet@Apr 11 2005, 01:19 AM
Um. before anybody else starts making one - I intend to make a BOM Radar loop widget, and an Energex lightning tracker widget. No stealing my ideas now :)
dont worry i have no plans to do any of them

i did forget to add im doing a yellowpages/whitepages widget and im looking into a whereis widget

Exocet
11th April 2005, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by AusMac@Apr 11 2005, 03:10 AM
I dunno how you would go about getting a BOM loop widget to work since I would normally use from three to ten loops, all from totally different radar sites within a couple of minutes on any normal BOM lookup.
I would support the Capital cities as a first, and then move into supporting all radar sites on the BOM website.

marc
11th April 2005, 10:33 AM
islayer and everyone else who's developing Aus widgets--I salute you! Great job.

Let me know if any of you guys need skins. I'd be glad to help.

iSlayer
11th April 2005, 10:45 AM
will do.
im working with a graphics designer from new york on a few things but ill give you a shout if i need anything

Disko
11th April 2005, 10:49 AM
likewise with the graphics offer: I helped islayer with the skin on his TV Guide widget.

Also - i'll be happy to host any widgets people make here on AppleTalk. In the future i'm hoping to add a gallery for them.

iSlayer
11th April 2005, 10:54 AM
well i wouldnt mind one of you making a skin for my fortune widget.
currently i have a simple brushed metal box but its boring an plain.

i dont need anything to fancy.it has to resize well in both width and height as some forunes are as small as 150px wide and i have set a max of 500px.height ranges from from 3 lines of text upto 20 lines of text

there will be Header that says "Today's Fortune" and then the fortune will be under it.
send me a pm if you need more details

Thanks

Disko
11th April 2005, 11:00 AM
if its the same as the one you sent me, i can work on that now.

iSlayer
11th April 2005, 11:03 AM
yup thats it.
feel free to get rid of the brushed look though.
maybe a transperant blue or something.
ill leave it up to you...

marc
11th April 2005, 11:37 AM
Damn.

I'm too slow. Next one's mine!

mbd
11th April 2005, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by marc@Apr 11 2005, 11:37 AM
Damn.

I'm too slow. Next one's mine!
did you make that space invaders avatar? f'en awesome - best avatar I've seen on here I reckon :-).

(PS, if you want to buy a real 70s tabletop one, pm me)

marc
11th April 2005, 12:27 PM
Thanks--I did make it.

I've also made a pong one. I think pacman or frogger will be next.

Oh. How much for the tabletop? I'm not that desperate to get one, but I am curious!

iSlayer
11th April 2005, 01:29 PM
Well marc its your turn now :)
ill let you do the graphics for my package tracker widget if your up for it.
pm me you email addy or ichat name and ill send you a mock image to show where the info go's
i havent thought about how it should look so it will be totally up to you

mbd
11th April 2005, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by marc@Apr 11 2005, 12:27 PM
Thanks--I did make it.

I've also made a pong one. I think pacman or frogger will be next.

Oh. How much for the tabletop? I'm not that desperate to get one, but I am curious!
very cool. love the classic coin ops..

My invaders tabletop is $1200 and comes with one of those fishnchips shop plastic stools for the authentic experience :-). http://www.suburbia.org.au/~mark/SI if you want to see pics

AusMac
11th April 2005, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Exocet@Apr 11 2005, 08:03 AM
I would support the Capital cities as a first, and then move into supporting all radar sites on the BOM website.
That's pretty literal. ;)

iSlayer
11th April 2005, 09:29 PM
Screenshots of my tv guide widget and fortune widget are now available here.
http://www.appletalk.com.au/widgets/tvguide.jpg
http://www.appletalk.com.au/widgets/fortune_white.jpg
http://www.appletalk.com.au/widgets/fortune_black.jpg

marc
11th April 2005, 10:50 PM
They're looking great.

I prefer the white fortune to the black.

lavo
12th April 2005, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by islayer@Apr 4 2005, 05:41 PM
way ahead of you :)
it wont be easy though
i need to wait for the release of tiger to do it.
i have to learn how to escape characters for it to work.
but i do have a applescript to add eyetv event so its just a matter of patching it in
Hey islayer,

Any chance you have checked out ITVeye? This uses the yahoo tv guide, which has an Australian equivalent <http://au.tv.yahoo.com/>. The guy who wrote ITVeye says it is just a browser, which I guess would have the same applecripts you have to make EyeTV record. Is this similar to what you are doing with the tv guide widget?

iSlayer
12th April 2005, 08:17 AM
no i havent.
i have an applescript already to add programs to the eyetv scheduling app but i have to intergrate it into the widget which is not easy to do.
there are ways to do it from safari but its alot easier there because you have to be on the actual page for that show where as mine will show multiple shows so i havwe to make it so you can select which ones to add

iSlayer
12th April 2005, 10:19 AM
Here is an early version of the package tracker
http://www.appletalk.com.au/widgets/Tracker.jpg

lavo
12th April 2005, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by islayer@Apr 12 2005, 08:17 AM
no i havent.
i have an applescript already to add programs to the eyetv scheduling app but i have to intergrate it into the widget which is not easy to do.
there are ways to do it from safari but its alot easier there because you have to be on the actual page for that show where as mine will show multiple shows so i havwe to make it so you can select which ones to add
The EyeTV project might be easier with a full AppleScript Studio app. I&#39;m figuring showing a full guide for the next 6 hours might take up a fair amount of screen real estate, which would kind of miss the point of a widget :-) Is it easy with Applescript to rip tv data?

iSlayer
12th April 2005, 10:34 AM
not really.
i dont want to build an applescript app i want it to be part of the widget.

lavo
12th April 2005, 10:46 AM
But how big would the widget have to be? At the moment, you widget shows the next three shows. What if I wanted to see what was coming up in three days time, to set a recording? Would it be possible to move that far forward, or will it only show the next three shows?

Not being picky at all (I think your widgets are fantastic&#33;) but I have been searching for the Holy Grail of Eyetv programming in Australia for years&#33;

iSlayer
12th April 2005, 10:52 AM
it is hardcoded to show the next three shows.
i have no plans to change that

marc
12th April 2005, 10:55 AM
I don&#39;t mind that it only shows what&#39;s up in the next hour or so. Maybe a good middle ground solution would be to have the channel logos as links to the station&#39;s full program.

iSlayer
12th April 2005, 11:06 AM
i can do that i guess.
its an xml feed so it should work nicely in safari 2.0 in tiger
the widget is designed to only show 3 shows and i dont want to change that.its not meant to be a full blown tv guide.
its impossible to add moreinfo without it taking a huge amound off space.
as it is now if you have more then 10-15 channels it will take the hight of your screen

Now what i am willing to do is make a second widget that shows every show for a specified channel for the current day.
it would again take alot of height so i would think splitting into 6 hour groups and having a way to navigate between them would be the best way.(it would also be able to show the first 6 hours of the next day)
the widget would have as many channels as you want but only ever show 1 at a time.i would have navigation to move between channels.

i have no problem making that widget if you guys want it

lavo
12th April 2005, 11:21 AM
No dramas&#33; The original widget idea is fine. I was looking for a possible EPG for EyeTV, thinking this widget may be a possibility. I have emailled the author of ITVeye a few weeks back, but received no response :-(

Anybody had a look at yahoo&#39;s tv guide? I&#39;m no wizz on "web stuff", but it seems that the guide just changes with a few numbers in the URL (which follow a simple pattern). Is this how people get the guide into their own programs, but adjusting the numbers in the URL?

marc
13th April 2005, 08:56 AM
I can&#39;t wait to actually be able to use widgets.

One of the great things about them is that it&#39;ll clean up your dock... you&#39;ll only need the larger apps in there. Everything else can be a widget.

Another widget idea (but might be hard to implement): Printer queue. It&#39;s another one of those things you just want to look at for a second, but it currently still takes up dock space.

iSlayer
13th April 2005, 08:59 AM
sorry marc i dont think i can do it.
it would require a cocoa plugin and i dont know cocoa

marc
13th April 2005, 09:00 AM
Yet another widget idea: "Extra dock" -- A launcher for apps and utils that don&#39;t get used too much. You&#39;d lose some of the functionality of the dock (no drag and drop), but it&#39;d be slightly handier that going to the finder and hitting Apple-shift-A or Apple-shift-U then finding what you&#39;re after.

iSlayer
13th April 2005, 09:01 AM
hmm ill have to think about it....

marc
13th April 2005, 09:04 AM
Lol.

I&#39;m not suggesting you code every idea&#33;

They&#39;re just concepts, and hopefully will spark more ideas from others.
We can then cherry-pick the best ones.

And yeah, I&#39;m sure that printer idea would be very hard to implement.

iSlayer
13th April 2005, 09:07 AM
ideas are good.
most widgets can be created in under a day if they dont need plugins.
keep the ideas coming

i could probably do that dock one but ill have to consider a few things regarding getting icons out of app bundles and if i can make it work with apps outside the applications folder.

marc
13th April 2005, 09:09 AM
Maybe it could read aliases from a folder. Similar to the way Apple Menu Items used to be.

iSlayer
13th April 2005, 11:36 AM
possibly.
the widget would be limited.
you would have to type in the exact name of the app and it would need to be in the applications folder.
it can work but im not sure how well so at this stage i dont think ill make it

marc
16th April 2005, 11:01 PM
iSlayer needs to be fed with more ideas.

C&#39;mon people&#33;

Step right up and get your widget idea coded for you free of charge&#33;

Rayd
16th April 2005, 11:18 PM
how bout a simple widget that will tell you your computers stats, i.e. temp, HD space, ethernet data throughput, ram used, ram free, CPU usage, processes, etc.

mac_man_luke
18th April 2005, 10:34 PM
Have a look at my website, http://www.widgetdeveloper.com

iSlayer
19th April 2005, 09:25 PM
quick update...
tv guide widget has been delayed for a few reasons but it will be much better then i originally planned.it now downloads several days worth of feeds and it caches them so you can run the widget while your offline.the files are stored in your user library and are automatically updated twice a week and the old files are moved to the trash.

eyetv intergration is done.it add the start time and length aswell as the title.i cant add descriptions as the feed i use desnt provide them for most shows.

i added the preference system last week so you can now add/remove channels.

i still have alot to do and i have to manually maintain feeds for adelaide/darwin/canberra which is taking some time at the moment.

i may release a beta to selected people as soon as this weekend and the first public release will hopefully be early next week

marc
20th April 2005, 06:13 PM
Here&#39;s a rough of "Fuel Gauge", a widget that shows free space available on the drive.
http://www.obliquemusic.co.uk/forumimages/fuel_gauge.jpg
The bottom version is the real size, the top one is just there so you can see it in more detail.
Things we have planned The dashboard might turn dark at night, and the lights would shine more (as if you were looking at a car dash at night)
Several drives would be supported. They&#39;d just stack on top of each other.
The "&#33;" light indicates the volume is 90% full or more. We may add an alarm. The "HD" and other icons indicate the volume type (HD or CD/DVD). The lock icon shows if the volume is locked

Any suggestions are welcome.

Yes, the gauge is modeled on the MINI Cooper :D

marc
20th April 2005, 06:14 PM
PS: islayer is coding Fuel Gauge, I&#39;m just designing the UI&#33;

iSlayer
20th April 2005, 06:33 PM
nice work marc.
we are looking for feedback on the design for this one....

designers_hub
20th April 2005, 06:41 PM
Wow thats kool&#33;

Can you make widgets run on mac os x panther?

marc
20th April 2005, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by designers_hub@Apr 20 2005, 06:41 PM
Wow thats kool&#33;

Can you make widgets run on mac os x panther?
Some will load in Safari. ;)

You don&#39;t want Tiger? Or can&#39;t afford it?

zeddie2001
20th April 2005, 07:13 PM
Looks great. One thing is that there is no indication of what unit the free/used space is. This will be changed in the full version? Can&#39;t believe how great it looks&#33;&#33;

964RSCS
20th April 2005, 07:40 PM
What about showing CPU useage? I guess as like a bar graph...

One thing which would be really interesting if it could be done, would be to show RAM useage&#33;&#33; Then we can tell if we really do need that extra Gig of RAM&#33;&#33; :)

Edit - hmm, I see ipod_man has already suggested such a thing - I&#39;ll second that&#33;

marc
20th April 2005, 10:59 PM
Rather than have an all-in-one, it might be nice to have a separate widget for ram/cpu usage... unless it was just another module like the HD thing that sat on top. Hmmm... it&#39;s probably more up to islayer, as he&#39;d be the one who has to code it.

marc
21st April 2005, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by zeddie2001@Apr 20 2005, 07:13 PM
Looks great. One thing is that there is no indication of what unit the free/used space is. This will be changed in the full version? Can&#39;t believe how great it looks&#33;&#33;
Fixed... and thanks.

Can anyone think of a good thing to add to the status circles?

We have HD, CD/DVD, Disk full warning, and locked right now, but I&#39;d like to have 5... it looks a bit nicer plus I&#39;m sure I&#39;ve forgotten something.

fompsweeva
21st April 2005, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by marc@Apr 21 2005, 02:10 AM
Fixed... and thanks.

Can anyone think of a good thing to add to the status circles?

We have HD, CD/DVD, Disk full warning, and locked right now, but I&#39;d like to have 5... it looks a bit nicer plus I&#39;m sure I&#39;ve forgotten something.
How about a firewire symbol, if it&#39;s a firewire drive?

aswitcher
21st April 2005, 07:10 AM
I would like to see an Airport/Ethernet/Internet Widget that tells me what IPs I am connected to (what computer names they are associated with if know/ or Whois addresses they resolve to when internet related).
It would be nice if it also tracks how much data in and out / possibly ports used / and what local app/programs are communicating with them...and keep a history of sorts for each IP.

marc
21st April 2005, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by fompsweeva@Apr 21 2005, 06:45 AM
How about a firewire symbol, if it&#39;s a firewire drive?
Good idea.

islayer... is that easy to implement?

iSlayer
21st April 2005, 09:48 AM
Hmm not really.
i may have to use a plugin to do it.
i dont think the terminal commands i planned on using tell if its firewire

Atomic
21st April 2005, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by marc@Apr 21 2005, 02:10 AM
Fixed... and thanks.

Can anyone think of a good thing to add to the status circles?

We have HD, CD/DVD, Disk full warning, and locked right now, but I&#39;d like to have 5... it looks a bit nicer plus I&#39;m sure I&#39;ve forgotten something.
I have two ideas:
Disk activity light
or a S.M.A.R.T. diagnostics status - it can either show &#39;OK&#39; or light up when there is a problem. I&#39;ll let you decide.

iSlayer
21st April 2005, 10:46 AM
good ideas but i doubt i can do either.disk activity would need live updating which needs cocoa plugins which i dont know how to make.
if there are any cocoa programmers here give me a yell....

Edit----

i should add the Hd monitor widget wont be live updating.
i will give options on when to update but the lowest will be 3 or 5 seconds i reckon.
i might be able to do 1 which is close enought to live but ill have to see how it plays with system resources especially cpu usage since ill just be dumping data from the terminal each time

iSlayer
21st April 2005, 12:03 PM
ok here is a complete update on the tv widget(known as "AusTv")

Development has been slow for the last week due to many factors.the most important factor being i have to manually maintain feeds for 9,7,10 for adelaide,darwin and Canberra.im still building a script to do some of the work for me but i still have to manually get the data to give to the script.which for 9 channels and doing atleast 4 days at a time is going to take several hours a week for me.
most of the other feeds are working fine but there may be missing feeds for some paytv channels and some digital channels like the extra abc and sbs channels.
im not going to make feeds for them since its not feasable to do it.

all states will support 10,9,7,abc and sbs in both digital and analouge formats.all states will have paytv support(austar/foxtel/optus).

The feeds are no longer downloaded each time you want to use the widget.The feeds will be stored on my server and the widget will download them twice a week to keep them updated.

now thats out of the way heres a list of what works and what doesnt
General Interface
Complete but there will be a few small changes before the final release
Setup Utility
Has 1 or 2 small bugs but is more or less done
Add Channels
This is about to be rebuilt to remove the need for internet connectivity
Remove Channels
This was completed thismorning and is now 100% functional
Feed Downloader
Was completed on tuesday.tested and bug free.its actually an automater app...
EyeTv Support
Added &#33;&#33;&#33; you can now click on a little eye icon next to each show and it will be added to your eyetv recording list if you have an eyetv
Feeds
feeds are still in development.ive got a script that downloads the next 7 days worth of feeds.just have to expand it to other states beside tasmania and then it will be complete.
Custom Feeds
Custom Feeds are the ones for adelaide,darwin and canberra.these will get done but are not priority right now.as i said above it has to be done manually so its a slow process and has to be done twice a week .not something im looking foward to but i have no choice


Thats all for now.dont think i missed anything.

And for those who asked for a more extensive feed it is happening soon.i will be doing another version that shows the next 6 hours or even more possible of shows for each channel.
Stay tuned for a mock image for that

marc
21st April 2005, 11:48 PM
http://www.obliquemusic.co.uk/forumimages/fuel_gauge_3.jpg

I think that&#39;s it, unless people have more suggestions.

I didn&#39;t go for the firewire icon thing. It sounds like it&#39;s going to be to hard to implement.
I guess the back needs to be designed now.

konni
22nd April 2005, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by marc@Apr 16 2005, 11:01 PM
iSlayer needs to be fed with more ideas. C&#39;mon people&#33;
Step right up and get your widget idea coded for you free of charge&#33;
Well as I mentioned on #apple forum today (ummm.... yesterday - wow&#33; look at the time) it would be handy to have a widget that synched up the bookmark file in my browsers.
Then again, maybe that&#39;s a dumb idea because Browser specs keep changing.... or I should only use one for browsing. But I don&#39;t I use different ones for testing webpages and banking.
Maybe bookmarks should live separately to the browser and pass it&#39;s contents on the fly.

marc
22nd April 2005, 12:55 AM
Maybe just have a bookmarks widget. It could launch any browser. I&#39;m not sure exactly how handy that&#39;d be though.

WidgetTracker
23rd April 2005, 11:59 PM
I don&#39;t know if it is possible, but I would love a widget that launches many of the applications that I don&#39;t use daily (so they are not on my dock) but still use often enough that it is inconvient going to my Applications/Utilities folder to access them.

For example, I would love a widget that I could use to launch the Terminal, Directory Access, Network Utility, Activity Monitor, Disk Utility, Apple Remote Desktop, Server Admin, Workgroup Manager, etc... just at a quick push of F11 and a click on the corresponding app.

These are apps that I do use fairly often but not often enough to want to clutter up my dock. I already have too many apps on my dock. Also, these apps don&#39;t allow dragging of files on them for opening so there is no need for them to be in my dock other than for quick access.

marc
24th April 2005, 09:35 AM
Yep. Good idea.

We&#39;ve been discussing one like that :)

marc
24th April 2005, 04:46 PM
As you&#39;ve pointed out, it&#39;d be cool for infrequently used apps, the disadvantage is that it&#39;d only be a launcher--I&#39;m assuming drag and drop would be quite hard to implement. It&#39;d be a handy widget though.

arty
24th April 2005, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by islayer@Apr 4 2005, 09:04 AM
it doesnt show descriptions of shows or anything like that.
Your TV (http://www.yourtv.com.au) has all the channels FTA & pay for each state, plus descriptions of the shows and links to related web sites in some instances. Maybe you could cut a deal to share the data with them.

iSlayer
24th April 2005, 10:03 PM
nope wont happen.
they are very protective of their data.
and anyway its way to hard to get data from there anyway.
i get my data from xml feeds which are nice and simple to work with

MizuInOz
26th April 2005, 05:33 PM
Here is the ultimate SciFi Widget:

StarGate Counter - 0.2.1

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/26501StarGate Counter (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/26501)

StarGate Counter is a neat little countdown widget that informs you of how many days there is left until Sci-fi channel shows the new StarGate SG1 and Atlantis Episodes. And it gets even more exiting&#33; ;) Starting when it&#39;s 63 days left, a new lamp will be lit every week until every lamp is lit on day zero.

From VersionTracker

now if we just had one to count down until there were no more wars... Except Star Wars
:)

marc
26th April 2005, 05:42 PM
There&#39;s no screenshot, and I don&#39;t have Tiger (yet). Boo&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :(

;)

mac_man_luke
26th April 2005, 06:32 PM
iSlayer is now a Admin/Moderator at my website http://www.widgetdeveloper.com

iSlayer
26th April 2005, 06:34 PM
sure am.ill be launcing alll my widgets on that site so come and visit

queraxus
26th April 2005, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by aswitcher@Apr 21 2005, 07:10 AM
I would like to see an Airport/Ethernet/Internet Widget that tells me what IPs I am connected to (what computer names they are associated with if know/ or Whois addresses they resolve to when internet related).
It would be nice if it also tracks how much data in and out / possibly ports used / and what local app/programs are communicating with them...and keep a history of sorts for each IP.
This is a great idea.

iSlayer
26th April 2005, 09:18 PM
Here are 2 screenshots of the latest version
http://www.islayer.net/AusTv1.png
http://www.islayer.net/AusTv2.png

marc
26th April 2005, 10:00 PM
Nice&#33;&#33;

I can&#39;t wait to use it while I&#39;m sitting on the couch with the PB.


Friday’s update of Mac OS X 10.3 to version 10.3.9 included a few unmentioned surprises, Safari 1.3 and new versions of WebKit, WebCore, and JavaScriptCore that “contain thousands of improvements… made to the engine since Safari 1.2.” In addition to what Safari developer Dave Hyatt says is a 35% speed increase, the update includes a feature geared towards Widget developers, the “Use Transparent Window” option. The option, which can be found in the hidden “Debug” menu, allows you to preview widgets in an environment more visually similar to Dashboard, in a transparent layer over the desktop.

To enable the Debug menu, quit Safari and enter the following command in Terminal:

% defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1

Rayd
26th April 2005, 10:07 PM
very nice islayer&#33;cant wait to use it.. once my tuner card gets working &#33; :|

marc
26th April 2005, 10:45 PM
How about a widget that shows speed camera locations?

Is the info available on the net?

marc
26th April 2005, 10:47 PM
A list of movies being released in Australia this week?
(I&#39;d love this&#33;)

islayer — are you up for it?

iSlayer
26th April 2005, 10:49 PM
find me the data :)

aswitcher
26th April 2005, 11:05 PM
As for movies - heres an iCal link
http://home.exetel.com.au/kob/OZMovies.ics

As for TV - Any chance of more than the current and next option?

iSlayer
26th April 2005, 11:19 PM
not in the current widget.
im going to do a seperate widget that shows much more time.

lavo
26th April 2005, 11:33 PM
Brilliant work on the tv widget islayer&#33;

BTW, I emailled elgato in regards to a tv listing program for Australian viewers. They tried with yourtv and bombed&#33; You might want to get in touch with elgato, as they are quite keen to help out Aussie Eyetv users.

iSlayer
27th April 2005, 11:12 AM
Thanks Lavo.
i dont know if there is really anywhere else for elgato to get thier data.
most of the sites are not willing to share.

Im going to do a widget that shows movies(cinema) being released in the next 7 days also.it will be very simple and i have no plans to add more functionality to it.
look out for that one tonight....

Atomic
27th April 2005, 12:19 PM
*pinned* I can only see this thread getting larger until we start a definitive widget guide thread.

Cant wait to see a few of these in action iSlayer.

iSlayer
27th April 2005, 12:23 PM
ill release version one of the movie widget tonight.as i said its simple and only shows the current weeks releases.
the tv guide widget isnt far off.just have to finish my feed downloads that i use to share the feeds and then do some final testing on the whole thing.i still have to get some graphics and a logo done aswell

i really want to release it friday but ill have to see.....

And thanks for Pinning it :)

mac_man_luke
27th April 2005, 01:05 PM
Gonna postem at our site first? :D

iSlayer
27th April 2005, 01:24 PM
for sure.
i have 3 sites to launch them at that i am involved in......

marc
27th April 2005, 11:55 PM
Almost there...
http://www.obliquemusic.co.uk/forumimages/red_carpet_mock.png

iSlayer
28th April 2005, 12:08 AM
http://www.islayer.net/widgets/movie/Red%20Carpet.zip
its stable and has the basic features we wanted.
a new revision will be released in the next week or 2 with more features

iSlayer
28th April 2005, 10:32 AM
feedback please.
i have atleast 10 people who have downloaded it so tell me what you think.
let me know if you find any bugs also

mac_man_luke
28th April 2005, 10:59 AM
another mirror http://www.widgetdeveloper.com/newskin/widget.php?id=32

gaehl
28th April 2005, 12:17 PM
iSlayer RedCarpet works fine here.

BigAD
28th April 2005, 12:45 PM
Yep, It&#39;s seem to be working fine with me.

Keep up the good work.

iSlayer
28th April 2005, 12:53 PM
thanks guys.
one bug in that version is that if it cant connect to the server it wont do anything but once data is set it will just display what was lready there.
ill fix that later and add caching to it.
there is no reason you would need it to update very often as the content only changes once a week

but yeah thanks for letting me know.
ive had 26 downloads from my site and 16 from the mirror which im happy with for now

cant wait to get the tv guide widget out.id expect huge numbers with it.

marc
28th April 2005, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by mac_man_luke@Apr 28 2005, 10:59 AM
another mirror http://www.widgetdeveloper.com/newskin/widget.php?id=32
Could you please use this image as the screen shot?

Cheers&#33;

http://www.obliquemusic.co.uk/forumimages/redcarpetscreenshot.jpg

decryption
28th April 2005, 03:06 PM
Some really nice Widgets going on. I love the localised content.
A Whitepages/YellowPages Widget would be super cool :P

mac_man_luke
28th April 2005, 03:12 PM
Fixed

lavo
28th April 2005, 03:12 PM
I for one am hanging out for the tv widget :-) My EyeTV is also waiting&#33; BTW, for those who don&#39;t have Tiger yet, you can preview the widget in Safari.

iSlayer
28th April 2005, 03:12 PM
i can do that decryption.wont happen any time soon.maybe in a month or 6 weeks i could have a beta.i did some initial testing will yellow pages and its not too bad to work with.

iSlayer
28th April 2005, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by lavo@Apr 28 2005, 04:12 PM
I for one am hanging out for the tv widget :-) My EyeTV is also waiting&#33; BTW, for those who don&#39;t have Tiger yet, you can preview the widget in Safari.
yes you can.it has full functionality in safari.
the tv widget however does not because its much more complicated and uses the dashboard prefs system

i really want to get the tv widget out there but its not quite ready.im going to work on it all night tonight to try and get atleast a beta ready for tomorrow.

at the moment it seems to work fine.the only thing i have to do is the updating system which i havent worked out 100% yet.
after that i just have to finish getting the feeds ready.
i may choose to release a beta without support for pay tv tomorrow just to save a bit of time.
i really need to focus on the updating system right now as if that doesnt work 100% nothing will.

oh and ill try and get the eyetv stuff added.last time i checked it worked but i cant include it just yet because i need a list of what channel numbers the eyetv uses for each state.

Lavo if you can send me you channel data it would help me alot.then i can atleast give you a version with eyetv support.

Edit...

Oh and marc will you be arount tonight.im desperate to get some graphics i still need for the tv widget.all i need is a logo and some simple graphics for the back where you add channels..the logo i would like a little tv with "AusTv" on the screen.

lavo
29th April 2005, 10:45 AM
When I get home tonight, I will email the channel data through for you. I&#39;m assuming the data from EyeTV?

BTW, the MovieGuide works excellent in 10.4&#33;

Another widget idea - a mail checker for OS X mail that check new mail in all folders, not just the inbox (if you have filters that puts mail into other boxes, there is no notification you have new mail). Konfab had a few widgets that did this.

iSlayer
29th April 2005, 10:49 AM
yup i just need the channel names and numbers from the eyetv app

im now aiming for sunday for a release as i have to start from scratch with the feed updater.
its now using wget to get the feeds(wget is included in the wiget) instead of an automater app like i had been using.
its something i knew i may of needed to do but was trying to avoid but i have no choice

aswitcher
30th April 2005, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by islayer@Apr 28 2005, 10:32 AM
feedback please.
i have atleast 10 people who have downloaded it so tell me what you think.
let me know if you find any bugs also
Hey there. I cant get red carpet to flip over. The arrow appears but cant be clicked....

queraxus
30th April 2005, 10:00 AM
I&#39;d like a TPG widget, similiar to the Internode widget.

iSlayer
30th April 2005, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by aswitcher@Apr 30 2005, 10:47 AM
Hey there. I cant get red carpet to flip over. The arrow appears but cant be clicked....
it doesnt flip.
there is no reason for it to flip.
that button is a refresh button

lavo
30th April 2005, 10:13 AM
Got those channels for you islayer. Do you have a direct email address to send them to? PM me would be best&#33;

DJY
30th April 2005, 11:18 AM
Now these widgets sound great&#33;

I will be grabbing the TV Guide when it appears. Shame people couldnt grab data from yourtv or similiar sites... Having Now and Next shows in the widget I think will be good... but being able to click somewhere to then open a browser to show all FTA channels and a full schedule I think would be very handy&#33; I use yourtv a lot&#33;

Other widgets I&#39;d personally love to see...

Netspace Usage Meter

Movie Schedule Times (I know it was discussed above - anyone have any knowledge where this data could be sourced from?)

White & Yellow Pages search (for Aust)

WhereIs would be great if it works&#33;

Flight schedule (local content) would be cool too - I haven&#39;t played with the installed Flight Tracker one yet to see if it includes all our domestic carriers / flights.

Maybe a Whirlpool latest posts (similiar to the Appletalk one discussed)

Thats off the top of my head&#33; I&#39;m only just starting to play with Tiger and Widget use myself as I haven&#39;t seen Tiger until I installed it last night. I&#39;m happy to start thinking of some original ideas though - rather than just sponge off other ideas already mentioned in here... but I&#39;m not an IT person so I don&#39;t know how much I&#39;ll be able to help create them - apart from beta testing - which I&#39;m happy to help with.

marc
30th April 2005, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by queraxus@Apr 30 2005, 10:00 AM
I&#39;d like a TPG widget, similiar to the Internode widget.
Me too.

iSlayer
30th April 2005, 12:32 PM
im glad to report the movie widget has been fairly succesful.
it has over 150 downloads already which im happy with considering tiger has been out for less then a day and its a limited audience for the widget

aswitcher
30th April 2005, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by islayer@Apr 30 2005, 10:10 AM
it doesnt flip.
there is no reason for it to flip.
that button is a refresh button
:o


*blush* Oh, ok.

Any chance of hyperlinks from the movies to their official websites ;)

lavo
30th April 2005, 01:30 PM
The built in Flight Tracker shows Qantas flights, but not Virgin or the smaller carriers in Australia. The widget requires the airline to upload their data to a website for it to work. BTW, check out a US flight (eg UA) that is En Route. Its pretty cool&#33;

iSlayer
30th April 2005, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by aswitcher@Apr 30 2005, 02:17 PM
Any chance of hyperlinks from the movies to their official websites ;)
that will be in Version 2.
it wont be to the movies official site but the page at imdb.com

marc
30th April 2005, 05:35 PM
Probably the search page with the name entered will be the easiest.

iSlayer
30th April 2005, 07:00 PM
ill just do a direct link.im already manually maintaing the feed so 5 more minutes a week wont matter
eventually ill add the abilty to view a description from inside the widget so you dont have to go to safari

Chesty
30th April 2005, 07:27 PM
islayer, love your widgets&#33; can we download the tv gudie one yet?

Chesty
30th April 2005, 07:30 PM
i also know of a idea fora widget, what about a snow report one?

iSlayer
30th April 2005, 07:31 PM
not yet.
im just about to start work on the updater system.
im still hoping for tomorrow

iSlayer
30th April 2005, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by nchester@Apr 30 2005, 08:30 PM
i also know of a idea fora widget, what about a snow report one?
find me the data :)

Chesty
30th April 2005, 07:37 PM
http://www.vicsnowreport.com.au/report.html

Chesty
30th April 2005, 07:39 PM
thats ok? where will your widgets be able to download?

marc
30th April 2005, 07:40 PM
Lol.

Always the same problem... NEED DATA&#33;

iSlayer
30th April 2005, 07:41 PM
its on my list :)

Chesty
30th April 2005, 07:41 PM
cool thanks&#33;&#33;

Chesty
30th April 2005, 07:45 PM
talk again, bye&#33;&#33; :) :) :) :) :) :)

queraxus
30th April 2005, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by nchester@Apr 30 2005, 07:30 PM
i also know of a idea fora widget, what about a snow report one?
Already done.

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/dash...portwidget.html (http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/dashboard/powderfonesnowreportwidget.html)

titan44
30th April 2005, 10:58 PM
I&#39;m after a bit of help re: Icon.png, i cant get mine to display in the widget icon bar, my ( basic ) widget fires up but it wont load the icon, i&#39;ve used photoshop to build it, can other widget scripters give me a quick run down on the Icon.png spec, i can&#39;t seem to find much info on it.




Ignore, there seems to be a bit of a lag in Dashboard updating it&#39;s dock.

marc
30th April 2005, 11:02 PM
Red Carpet preview of the next version:
http://www.obliquemusic.co.uk/forumimages/red_carpet_mock.png

iSlayer
1st May 2005, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by titan44@Apr 30 2005, 11:58 PM
I&#39;m after a bit of help re: Icon.png, i cant get mine to display in the widget icon bar, my ( basic ) widget fires up but it wont load the icon, i&#39;ve used photoshop to build it, can other widget scripters give me a quick run down on the Icon.png spec, i can&#39;t seem to find much info on it.




Ignore, there seems to be a bit of a lag in Dashboard updating it&#39;s dock.
from what ive seen they dont show up until the dock and dashboard are relaunched.well that the case in the dev build im still running anyway

iSlayer
1st May 2005, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by marc@May 1 2005, 12:02 AM
Red Carpet preview of the next version:
http://www.obliquemusic.co.uk/forumimages/red_carpet_mock.png
very nice work marc.
the new version will be released sometime in the next 2 weeks.

carneagles
1st May 2005, 09:14 AM
I&#39;d love for someone to write a widget that displays the metropolitan radar images from the Bureau of Meteorology website, i.e.

http://mirror.bom.gov.au/products/IDR123.shtml

iSlayer
1st May 2005, 09:20 AM
ill pass that onto mac_man_luke as he has done similar widgets already.

bender
1st May 2005, 10:03 AM
I&#39;d love for someone to write a widget that displays the metropolitan radar images from the Bureau of Meteorology website

One already exists&#33; (http://www.widgetdeveloper.com/newskin/widget.php?id=16&PHPSESSID=1ec19031e06d16e7e9e07c8e04d79c42)

carneagles
1st May 2005, 10:09 AM
Now that&#39;s service.

Thanks&#33;

bullrout
1st May 2005, 10:19 AM
I would love a mail widget like Da Emails Konfabulator widget.

aswitcher
1st May 2005, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by marc@Apr 30 2005, 11:02 PM
Red Carpet preview of the next version:
http://www.obliquemusic.co.uk/forumimages/red_carpet_mock.png
Looking good.

One thing I am finding a bit annoying is not enough room for all my widgets. Maybe a widget that has a stamp sized foot print but becomes full sized at the touch of a button and back again would be nice. Radar widget is a perfect example of a widget that needs this.

iSlayer
1st May 2005, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by aswitcher@May 1 2005, 12:22 PM
Looking good.

One thing I am finding a bit annoying is not enough room for all my widgets. Maybe a widget that has a stamp sized foot print but becomes full sized at the touch of a button and back again would be nice. Radar widget is a perfect example of a widget that needs this.
yeah people need to do that more often.its very easy to do so there is no reason not to do it
i will add that in V2 of the movie widget and in V2 of AusTv

queraxus
1st May 2005, 11:49 AM
Konfab has some excellent widgets i&#39;d like to see ported to Dashboard

http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=36522
http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=36336
http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=33155
http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=36209

I suppose I could add more ... Heh

mac_man_luke
1st May 2005, 12:04 PM
I will be adding preferences to my radar widget very soon and you will beable to choose 3 sizes as well as choose your city.

iSlayer
1st May 2005, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by queraxus@May 1 2005, 12:49 PM
Konfab has some excellent widgets i&#39;d like to see ported to Dashboard

http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=36522
http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=36336
http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=33155
http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=36209

I suppose I could add more ... Heh
the whirlpool one is being ported by the author
the rss one looks good.id consider doing it if the author was happy with it

aswitcher
1st May 2005, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by mac_man_luke@May 1 2005, 12:04 PM
I will be adding preferences to my radar widget very soon and you will beable to choose 3 sizes as well as choose your city.
That sounds good.

Also with refesh, do widgets auto refresh based on their code? If so does the weather update frequently enough to catch any updates?

Also, any chance of some additional data from BOM like local predicted rainfall or some such?

marc
1st May 2005, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by aswitcher@May 1 2005, 11:22 AM
One thing I am finding a bit annoying is not enough room for all my widgets. Maybe a widget that has a stamp sized foot print but becomes full sized at the touch of a button and back again would be nice.
Good idea.

As iSlayer has already said he&#39;d like to add this, then I guess I&#39;d better get moving on the graphics for it :D

Please note that Red Carpet doesn&#39;t need to be as big as it is shown—you can choose to view either "this week" or "this week and next week". That makes it about half the size.

Maybe we&#39;ll make it collapse so that it&#39;s just the title bar when shrunk.

I personally think that the idea with widgets is to have what you need left open, so you aren&#39;t ever too many clicks away from viewing the information. You don&#39;t want to have to shuffle the widgets around to see what you want. This means either having small widgets, or less of them.

We&#39;ll be really mindful of this in the future. A small widget is a good widget. Btw, we could make Red Carpet as small as you&#39;d like, but of course the text needs to remain readable. I hope we&#39;ve ended up with the right size. Most of the widget design was done in Illustrator, so it&#39;s all vector and can be scaled to any size if needed.

marc
1st May 2005, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by aswitcher@May 1 2005, 01:01 PM
Also with refesh, do widgets auto refresh based on their code? If so does the weather update frequently enough to catch any updates?
That&#39;s up to the widget.

My guess is that most of them would update frequently enough.

ttyler
1st May 2005, 01:16 PM
I was considering making a widget for helpdesk staff. Based on viewing data from interMapper.

InterMapper provides an excellent way of network troubleshooting and feeding that into a widget has been in the back of my mind since attending WWDC last year.

Kept simple the browser could feed the image or icon of the device with its address to the Widget. I was thinking about this, and a small light globe went off... tell me if I am being stupid... :blink:
We all have our sites on servers.... so why not approach the third party software writer and offer the code to be placed on their web site that could parse the data into your widgets format.

If they wont and in the case of InterMapper, it is site specific code you are trying to parse then simply have a basic html page on your server that parses the data to a widget sized document. As widgets are basic web browsers... why not get an external source to process the data.

Now I realise that this is not feasible for all widgets, all i am trying to do is pass on an idea that someone may find useful. Certainly when a software manufacturer has a proprietary web browser, and code widget authors have little control. This would put the control back into the users hands.

mac_man_luke
1st May 2005, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by aswitcher@May 1 2005, 01:01 PM
That sounds good.

Also with refesh, do widgets auto refresh based on their code? If so does the weather update frequently enough to catch any updates?

Also, any chance of some additional data from BOM like local predicted rainfall or some such?
my weather widget updates every 10mins which is the same as the image is updated on the server

thomas
1st May 2005, 02:39 PM
Appletalk forum widget..

*runs away and hides*

marc
1st May 2005, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by thomas@May 1 2005, 02:39 PM
Appletalk forum widget..

*runs away and hides*
Does the AppleTalk RSS feed include the forum?

If it did, then you should be able to use a generic RSS widget, right?

AAARRRGGGGHHHH&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; I could check this out for myself if my copy of Tiger wasn&#39;t sitting at the post office... :angry:

ttyler
1st May 2005, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by mac_man_luke@May 1 2005, 02:23 PM
my weather widget updates every 10mins which is the same as the image is updated on the server
Just wondering if you had a demo available yet. I have got Tigers version of the weather widget running for Sydney.... But Hobart does not work

i was just testing out a perl script to examine the BOM site but thought you might have something for us to test now.....

:D

mac_man_luke
1st May 2005, 04:12 PM
Mine is only the weather radar
http://www.widgetdeveloper.com/newskin/widget.php?id=16


Marc- Appletalk does have rss, i would be intersted in making appletalk a widget but im a bit graphically challenged, if you did the graphics i have already got a working RSS parser

Arkhum_Eramak
1st May 2005, 05:12 PM
I&#39;ve got the weather Widget giving me Hobart weather fine...

iSlayer
1st May 2005, 05:15 PM
the built in one ?
doesnt work for me.
it accets hobart but its a place called hobart in america

marc
1st May 2005, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by mac_man_luke@May 1 2005, 04:12 PM
Marc- Appletalk does have rss, i would be intersted in making appletalk a widget but im a bit graphically challenged, if you did the graphics i have already got a working RSS parser
No probs.

I&#39;ll have a go soon.

dwarf75
1st May 2005, 06:00 PM
Islayer,
verfy much looking forward to the tv schedule widget.
But even more to a Australian yellow pages and whereis widget.

A couple of you guys have asked for widgets for Australian weather, disk/ cpu/ memory usage and a widget to choose programs.

I&#39;ve been using demo modes or freeware programs for these things in my menubar for ages.

dwarf75
1st May 2005, 06:03 PM
Sorry guys,
bit trigger happy with the buttons.

The programs i&#39;ve been using are:

Menumeters
Dockextender
Weatherdock
iClock

definetely does the job for me.

iSlayer
1st May 2005, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by marc@May 1 2005, 06:25 PM
No probs.

I&#39;ll have a go soon.
marc,
Disko and i have already done an official appletalk feed widget

marc
1st May 2005, 06:20 PM
Nice.

I won&#39;t worry about it then&#33;

ttyler
1st May 2005, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by islayer@May 1 2005, 05:15 PM
the built in one ?
doesnt work for me.
it accets hobart but its a place called hobart in america
I&#39;ll agree with Islayer...

of all the machines I have installed Tiger onto by default it will grab your default location and place it into the Weather widget. But it is Hobart, NY.... New York

It says that it is Raining and cold... so there is not much difference ;)

But I must say that I did expect more from the built in widgets. Yellow Pages for US, Weather Widget which is very average in its location identifier and a flight tracker that really does not work well in Australia.

Ok, I know it is up to the local developers to produce an Australian version. So there is the challenge.... :ph34r:

carneagles
2nd May 2005, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by ttyler@May 1 2005, 11:15 PM
of all the machines I have installed Tiger onto by default it will grab your default location and place it into the Weather widget. But it is Hobart, NY.... New York

It says that it is Raining and cold... so there is not much difference ;)
Mine gave me the weather for Perth, Scotland.

The temperature was only 25 degrees out.

ttyler
2nd May 2005, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by carneagles@May 2 2005, 12:45 AM
Mine gave me the weather for Perth, Scotland.

The temperature was only 25 degrees out.
25 degrees....

and this is bad..... ?????

getting above 15 would be nice. :P

iSlayer
2nd May 2005, 10:19 AM
i should be releasing a beta of AusTv tonight.
development is almost done and i just have to test a few things.
i have disabled paytv channels for the beta and eyetv support to save time.
the beta doesnt support adelaide,darwin or canberra but they will be added in the next week or 2

BigAD
2nd May 2005, 10:24 AM
Thats strange that I can get all capital cities in Australia working on the weather widget, except for Hobart....

But I also find it very funny.

iSlayer
2nd May 2005, 10:27 AM
Hobart is obviously to small.
they are getting the data from an american site so its no suprise that australian support is limited.

noisypoppy
2nd May 2005, 10:31 AM
I live in mackay, it&#39;s smaller than hobart...works fine on mine
Perth also works fine on mine
you guys are typing Hobart, Tasmania <enter> and letting it validate right?
if there is more than one place eg. Perth...it will drop down a box with the choices of Perth (ie. Perth, Scotland; Perth, Western Australia)
haven&#39;t tried hobart, will try it when I get home

iSlayer
2nd May 2005, 10:36 AM
i just entered hobart and there was nothing.
im making my own weather widget that will have support for many locations since it will use the data from BOM

qaz
2nd May 2005, 10:42 AM
How about a widget for Australian share prices? The widget supplied with Tiger only works for US stocks.

There is free live share price data available from the ASX at:
www.asx.com.au (http://www.asx.com.au/asx/markets/EquitySearchPage.jsp)

If someone could write a widget that used this, it would be great.

iSlayer
2nd May 2005, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by qaz@May 2 2005, 11:42 AM
How about a widget for Australian share prices? The widget supplied with Tiger only works for US stocks.

There is free live share price data available from the ASX at:
www.asx.com.au (http://www.asx.com.au/asx/markets/EquitySearchPage.jsp)

If someone could write a widget that used this, it would be great.
hmmm thats a possibility.
the data looks like it wouldnt be too hard to work with.
its on the list :)

im not sure how legal it is to use the data though after reading the terms of use on the site

ttyler
2nd May 2005, 10:58 AM
iSlayer
I was also looking at using BOM for a weather widget. But seeing that I have limited HTMl parsing ability I have been learning as I go. Also finding some demo scripts that do not require modules loaded, or PHP is proving difficult. Let me know if there is anything I can do.

Regarding the way that I enter Hobart into the weather widget... trust me it does not work. I think that the site in the US accuweather.com has issues. I did a manual lookup on their site and it lists Tasmania and most centres... but it has no data on them. such is life.

Also I find it odd that weather.com another US weather site works reliably. Well in a squirrelmail plugin it does (AWC_weather). I have sent a problem report to accuweather as I feel that their site should not default to certain locations, rather it should qualify the location properly.

noisypoppy
2nd May 2005, 11:05 AM
that&#39;s odd that it doesn&#39;t have Hobart but has Mackay and Townsville

iSlayer
2nd May 2005, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by ttyler@May 2 2005, 11:58 AM
iSlayer
I was also looking at using BOM for a weather widget. But seeing that I have limited HTMl parsing ability I have been learning as I go. Also finding some demo scripts that do not require modules loaded, or PHP is proving difficult. Let me know if there is anything I can do.
yeah its annoying.im in Hobart aswell if you didnt know

i dont really need any help.
code wise its not easy working with someone on a widget and i can do everything thats required by myself.widgets are just to small for more then 1 person.

thanks for the offer.once i get started on the widget it wont take long to do.each page is identical and i dont have to worry about caching which has slowed me down so much on the AusTv Widget

i have pm&#39;ed marc and asked him if he will do the graphics for it.
content wise id like it to be very similar to the buil in widget just with a new interface and maybe some extra data that apple chose to leave out.

gmask1
2nd May 2005, 11:52 AM
Okey dokey, here&#39;s my request (while I learn more about creating widgets&#33;)

I&#39;d like a terminal widget that lets me just jump into the command line environment, possibly navigate to a directory, type in commands and check out the results, then jump back to whatever I was doing.

marc
2nd May 2005, 11:53 AM
I&#39;m in.

Hobart people will soon be able to know the weather without having to *shudder* look out the window ;)

iSlayer
2nd May 2005, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by marc@May 2 2005, 12:53 PM
I&#39;m in.

Hobart people will soon be able to know the weather without having to *shudder* look out the window ;)
doesnt always work.
when the window is cover in frost you cant see a thing :)

iSlayer
2nd May 2005, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by gmask1@May 2 2005, 12:52 PM
Okey dokey, here&#39;s my request (while I learn more about creating widgets&#33;)

I&#39;d like a terminal widget that lets me just jump into the command line environment, possibly navigate to a directory, type in commands and check out the results, then jump back to whatever I was doing.
can be done but i would give this low priority personally.
dashboard has the ability to view results and error from commands and it can even do live updating with commands such as ping but alot of error checking would need to go into it to make sure one command doesnt break it.

ill put it on the list if you want but as i said its low priority right now
not to mention the new code id have to to learn to do it :)

jbjose
2nd May 2005, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by islayer@May 2 2005, 10:45 AM
hmmm thats a possibility.
the data looks like it wouldnt be too hard to work with.
its on the list :)

im not sure how legal it is to use the data though after reading the terms of use on the site
I second the ASX widget...

iSlayer
2nd May 2005, 12:35 PM
i third it but im worried about the copyright issues.

on another note im just working on AusTv during my lunchbreak and all is well.updating system is finished &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

that is huge news and it virtually means the beta is done.all thats left is a little testing and a little code cleanup and it will be released tonight aslong as i dont find any major bugs in testing

i promise it will be out before ITMS :)

queraxus
2nd May 2005, 01:23 PM
So will Christmas :P

marc
2nd May 2005, 04:48 PM
LOL.

alexxx
2nd May 2005, 05:49 PM
i am eagerly awaiting this tv widget&#33; ahhh hurry up (in a nice way) :D

aquila
2nd May 2005, 07:31 PM
Another Widget I would like is a widget loader. I know there are application launchers out there, but I would like to have a couple of sets of widgets and be able to load them and quit the others at the click of a button. My reasoning for this is that during the day i&#39;m interested in traffic reports and the weather (probably stocks for other people as well) and during the evening I would want movie info and a tv guide.

Ideally it would be customisable so that they could also take in the time and change automatically, am I being too lazy?

probably

marc
2nd May 2005, 07:56 PM
Laziness is the mother of all inventions.

iSlayer
2nd May 2005, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by alexxx@May 2 2005, 06:49 PM
i am eagerly awaiting this tv widget&#33; ahhh hurry up (in a nice way) :D
ive just sent the beta to someone for testing.
he has found a few bugs so im installing the release version of tiger on my g5 so i can test it on a clean system.
its not far away :)

iSlayer
2nd May 2005, 09:28 PM
one more update.....
i believe i have got the bugs out and its working in the release build of tiger.
i will have one or 2 people test it before i release it but it looks like its well and truely ready to be released as a beta

marc
2nd May 2005, 11:28 PM
It&#39;s working very well&#33; :D

dkmc
2nd May 2005, 11:49 PM
oh please release it&#33;&#33;

marc
3rd May 2005, 12:10 AM
iSlayer is just putting some finishing touches on. I think I&#39;ll be out soon.

He&#39;ll probably post here when it&#39;s done.

WJMoore
4th May 2005, 12:44 AM
Just in case people haven&#39;t noticed he has released it here: http://forums.appletalk.com.au/index.php?showtopic=7359

vanderlay
4th May 2005, 12:55 AM
nice work on the tv widget islayer :D
Is there any way you can get data fom http://www.ebroadcast.com.au in relation to abc2 and regional tv guides?
It is great as it is, but our schedule in country vic differs from melb during news hours.
Keep up the good work

iSlayer
5th May 2005, 01:13 PM
imm working to add some regional support for beta 2.
abc.net.au have feeds for abc2 which im going to look at

on another subject.....
one idea i have for a widget(it may have been suggested apparently) is a mac tracker similar to the app known as Mac Tracker :)

i have recieved permission to use all the data from apple-history.com

what do you think ?

vanderlay
5th May 2005, 01:26 PM
mac tracker widget would be handy

iSlayer
5th May 2005, 01:27 PM
i need more ideas for simple widgets.
big widgets are cool but its the simple ones people seem to like.

wise
5th May 2005, 07:15 PM
hey love ur work...

you could add the option to search rottentomatoes.com from the imdb widget.....that would be coooooll.....

actually to serach both from the movies launched this week.....AND movies on tv :D:D

getting a bit cheeky bbut that would be awesommeee

queraxus
5th May 2005, 10:47 PM
I&#39;ve seen this site, and although there&#39;s only a few widgets here, they&#39;re pretty cool.

http://www.vanillasoap.com/widgets.html

Some nice wallpapers and icons too.

ttyler
5th May 2005, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by islayer@May 5 2005, 01:27 PM
i need more ideas for simple widgets.
big widgets are cool but its the simple ones people seem to like.
How about a widget that actually uses the Stickies Database rather than creating a new one&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

The database can be read as text. May be possible...

That would not be limited to the Australian Market either.... or in fact the English language. :)

WJMoore
6th May 2005, 04:44 PM
What&#39;s the best site for keeping abreast of new widget releases? I&#39;m aware of these so far:
Apple Dashboard Widgets (http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/dashboard/)
Dashboard Widgets (http://www.dashboardwidgets.com/)
Widget Developer (http://www.widgetdeveloper.com/newskin/) (No bias from you iSlayer ;) )

iSlayer
6th May 2005, 04:49 PM
nah wont happen.
macupdate.com and versiontracker.com are both building good collections

queraxus
6th May 2005, 08:38 PM
For those people wanting widgets to remain on the desktop, behold&#33;

http://www.mesadynamics.com/amnesty.htm

iSlayer
11th May 2005, 09:50 AM
ive added a simple forum to my site so developers and deisgners can talk about ideas and projects they are working on.
http://www.islayer.net/forums/

iSlayer
13th May 2005, 10:30 AM
Ive updated my site with screenshots of each widget among other things.

iSlayer
17th May 2005, 08:51 AM
I would like to thank everyone who has downloaded my widgets.
the stats have been amazing and im still getting more traffic from australia then anywhere else.

there have been over 23000 downloads of my widgets so far and over 250,000 hits to my site this month alone

Thank you everyone and an extra big thankyou to the 3 people who have donated

senorgreg
1st June 2005, 03:19 PM
Hello&#33;

I have a couple ideas for what I think would be useful Dashboard widgets. I wouldn&#39;t mind looking into developing them myself, but I lack the know-how. If anyone has any suggestions on how to learn to program a widget or how difficult it is, please let me know&#33;

Anyway here are my ideas:

- For Sydneysiders, a CityRail Service Interuptions widget, that would link from Cityrail&#39;s website and ive up-to-date service interruption information.

- A news widget from the Sydney Morning Herald or ABC or the like with up-to-date latest headlines, maybe with a function to localise the news....

Thanks in advance....

iSlayer
1st June 2005, 03:25 PM
ill look at the news one.
someone asked for the rail one but at the time is was busy and its not the easiest widget to do i dont think

senorgreg
1st June 2005, 03:51 PM
Sounds great, where can I find some resources on building my own widgets?

iSlayer
1st June 2005, 03:59 PM
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/A...rial/index.html (http://developer.apple.com/documentation/AppleApplications/Conceptual/Dashboard_Tutorial/index.html)

or install the developers tools that are on the tiger disc which includes full documentation and sample code

sikosis
2nd June 2005, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by senorgreg@Jun 1 2005, 03:51 PM
Sounds great, where can I find some resources on building my own widgets?
or just look at other people&#39;s widgets code ... source is there for all to see unless they used a cocoa plugin, but I&#39;m yet to see one using one of those ...

iSlayer
2nd June 2005, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by sikosis@Jun 2 2005, 10:14 AM
or just look at other people&#39;s widgets code ... source is there for all to see unless they used a cocoa plugin, but I&#39;m yet to see one using one of those ...
some widgets like some of mine are copyrighted.
i have a web design business so i can copyright things under that name.

you may say "its just a widget" but it doesnt mean it didnt take long to make and other people should be able to steal code from it.

AusTv has taken me around 3 months so far.if someone stole code from it i would be very annoyed

chrism238
2nd June 2005, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by islayer@Jun 2 2005, 07:40 AM
some widgets like some of mine are copyrighted.
i have a web design business so i can copyright things under that name.
I believe that, in Australia and likely elsewhere, the very fact that someone creates a widget, or some prose.... automatically carries with it the assignment of copyright to the creator. One does not need to actively claim copyright, but one does need to actively give it away. Adding a little &#39;c&#39; in a circle and the creator&#39;s name, does little (extra) other than documenting who has the copyright.

sikosis
2nd June 2005, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by islayer@Jun 2 2005, 09:40 AM
some widgets like some of mine are copyrighted.
yes I didn&#39;t say anything about copying people&#39;s source ... I mentioned you can easily look at other people&#39;s code in order to work out how things happen or how a particular developer solved a problem.

that&#39;s how some developers learn ... by example.

fuchingsiang
21st June 2005, 12:43 PM
Ignore me if somebody has mentioned this before, I&#39;m new here and can&#39;t be bothered reading 16 pages of prev posts hehe... just a suggestion:

Bus/Train Schedule? That would be handy for most of us...

Disko
21st June 2005, 12:52 PM
Thats not a bad idea. I&#39;m not sure about other states, but Adelaide&#39;s metro buses are run by serco, and the time tables are all available as pdf from their website...

Because they&#39;re in pdf form, i can imagine it being a difficult task. Other cities will probably be fine though. ;)

fuchingsiang
21st June 2005, 01:11 PM
Metlink (http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au) has a good route planner but it would be better if it&#39;s on our dahsboard ;)

queraxus
21st June 2005, 01:30 PM
I second the Cityrail widget.

mdmcholet
10th July 2005, 11:27 AM
Well speaking on behalf of all the MacBabes out there - I have been googling but as yet have not found a widget that does the below...so if you know of one please let me know..

But I would like to get a "Baby due widget"
You plug in all the calculations...so have a "your x weeks and y days preggers" and your baby is due in "x weeks and y days"

Cheers :D

iSlayer
10th July 2005, 01:16 PM
can do :)
ill be doing lots more widgets now since i have all the time in the world :)

DJY
10th July 2005, 02:08 PM
I&#39;m off to grab the new austv widget now&#33;

I did think of an idea for a widget...
there is a US version... and our doesn&#39;t need to be as complicated...

But how bout a Qantas widget?
Either for flight schedule... or what I really was thinking was for departure and arrival information?&#33;

bullrout
20th August 2005, 02:18 PM
I was looking for an easy way to open Widgets.

If I can open a Widget by double clicking it in the finder why won&#39;t they open if I put the Widget folder in the Dock & try to open them from there.

Rayd
20th August 2005, 03:26 PM
cloughie, 10.4.2 fixes this hassle, when you double click on a widget it asks if you want to keep it or delete it , if you select keep it moves it to the widget folder and leaves it there, if you click delete then it deletes it. simple really :)

marc
26th December 2005, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by mdmcholet@Jul 10 2005, 11:27 AM
But I would like to get a "Baby due widget"
You plug in all the calculations...so have a "your x weeks and y days preggers" and your baby is due in "x weeks and y days"
This is sort of coming.

We&#39;re doing a mega-countdown widget that&#39;s really configurable. So it can do things like repeated countdown etc... like "Countdown to the weekend". It should be pretty cool.

http://homepage.mac.com/marcedwards/images2/countdown.png

marc
26th December 2005, 10:21 PM
We&#39;ve almost finished "Countdown To Anything". Should be released in the next 24hours-ish, depending on how the testing goes.

sunrisesister
8th January 2006, 07:21 PM
Hey, i just made my first ever widget&#33; Just a simple RSS feed from my blog, but its a start, and was MUCH more fun and easy than i thought it would be&#33;

Hooked on Widgets...

Char xx

marc
8th January 2006, 10:14 PM
It&#39;s highly addictive.

I can stop anytime I want to...