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macphwoar
14th March 2008, 06:26 AM
Hello people,

Please help me justify. I've been considering it for quite some time now.

the following is order generated this morning from OWC (http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/MacBook/Pro/Core2/) from the US.

currency is in US$ and with the FE rate of $0.90 .. this comes down to about A$412.



Items requested for delivery via FEDEXINT

Quantity: 1 OWC53IM2DDR4GBK, $94.97 each
4.0GB Kit (2.0GB+2.0GB) PC2-5300 DDR2 667MHz SO-DIMM 200 Pin Memory Upgrade Kit

Quantity: 1 WDGWD3200BEVT, $185.99 each
320GB 2.5" Western DIgital Scorpio 5400RPM SATA Notebook HD 8MB Cache

Quantity: 1 OWCMOTGSU2, $29.99 each
OWC Mercury On-The-Go 2.5" Portable USB 2.0 Enclosure for SATA NoteBook HDs

Sub-Total: $ 310.95
Tax: $ 0.00
Shipping: $ 58.61
Shipping Insurance: $ 1.50

Grand-Total: $ 371.06


ps. This post is also intended for those who are looking for an alternative to buying locally.

decryption
14th March 2008, 06:49 AM
I did a quick scan for all the items you were after and how much it would cost in Australia and couldn't find them for a total less than $450 together (inc CC charges & shipping). So I say go for it :)

Huy
14th March 2008, 07:21 AM
OWC offer competitive rates. I'd go for it.

I just bought some RAM off them yesterday (well a few days ago but received it yesterday).

That exact same RAM actually... arrived in 3 business days. Nice! :)

Seon
14th March 2008, 07:21 AM
For the difference of $30-$40 I would buy locally, purely from a PITA warranty POV... if you have to return anything. It's the shipping costs that will kill you if you have a problem.

And the issue of having to deal with an OS company and the delays that causes in communication etc.

Huy
14th March 2008, 07:24 AM
But for warranty purposes, aren't you contacting the manufacturer, not OWC?

When my hard disk died, I went straight to Seagate (website, support, RMAs) and had it processed there, and then sent my faulty item to a local address/collection centre - so it doesn't matter where you buy it from? As long as the warranty is global and the procedures are in place for recall/RMAs.

I suppose if you wanted to refund/return to OWC, that would be an issue - but assuming the goods are good and won't die on you - it should be fine. If it does die on you, you can send it back to the manufacturer which is probably what you'd do anyway if purchased locally.

My 2c about it. (except for that RAM which is OWC specific). Western Digital you can just visit their website and go to support etc. :)

Galumay
14th March 2008, 07:33 AM
But for warranty purposes, aren't you contacting the manufacturer, not OWC?


most international warranties will require you to return to country of purchase which makes it pretty expensive.

i really cant see it being worth the small savings to purchase this stuff off shore.

Huy
14th March 2008, 07:35 AM
^ Well if that's the case, then yeah you're right.

Although I always buy my RAM for OWC... just a brand I can trust/good service/tracking usually via FedEx or USPS Express. :)

macphwoar
14th March 2008, 08:12 AM
Thanks for the input guys. Guess what i found right after i put in the order. (do you think i can still cancel?)

New Corsair RAM (http://www.corsair.com/configurator/corsair_custom.aspx?id=474745)(direct link) which used new technology and supposedly delivers 28% "improvement" (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2275872,00.asp) over other RAMs. The 4GB kit is priced at US$159.99.
I just checked corsair website and the thing's not available to order yet.

just wanna know what you guy think.

ps. about the original order.. on second thought, I don't think it's worth buy OS. (with the exception of the convenience you get of not having to register on three different websites and getting your goodies in one delivery in one nice package :D)

LeeDavis
14th March 2008, 08:18 AM
Similar order to one I placed 2 weeks ago except I went for 2 of the drives, one to replace my internal and one for the external case for time machine use.

Kzach
14th March 2008, 08:36 AM
Corsair Micro VS4GSDSKIT667D2 - $150.00 - Scorpion Technology (http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/25416/)
OEM FR632B - $15.00 - Scorpion Technology (http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/21184/)
Western Digital WD3200BEVT - $249.00 - Scorpion Technology (http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/26049/)

Total: $415

thebag
14th March 2008, 09:44 AM
I personally think where companies such as OWC and other overseas retailers come into their own are hard to acquire things, such as CPU upgrades, Maccentric video upgrades etc. for older macs.

I know in the past when upgrading older macs, to buy from the US, especially with a good exchange rate it was much cheaper to purchase from OWC than to find a local retailer. There would be differences of $500 +. So it was worth the risk of having a DOA product and warranty issues.

I don't know if this would still be the case as we seem to have a lot more mac stockists than in the past.

I would add though that OWC probably have one of the best reputations, delivery times and back up service of any of the overseas online retailers.

Just some thoughts from personal experience.

Mark

Phase
14th March 2008, 10:16 AM
OWC is simply brilliant in regards to memory.

I saved over a thousand dollars by buying my 8Gb's from them.

Service was phenomenal, and the package (expressed) was here in 3 days. 3 days! from the States! I wait that long to get stuff from Sydney!

JimWOz
14th March 2008, 10:18 AM
I suggest you have a look at Umart (http://www.umart.com.au) as well for local pricing.
The 320G WD drive is $235 there, and a Vantec case with USB & eSATA is $39 for a SATA drive, or an IDE USB case is $29.

Memory can be sourced from plenty of places, but price depends on whether you want generic or branded.

Galumay
14th March 2008, 10:22 AM
OWC is simply brilliant in regards to memory.

I saved over a thousand dollars by buying my 8Gb's from them.


compared to what? 8GB of RAM in australia can be had for around $200 so its hard to see how you could have saved over a thousand dollars. (unless they paid you to take the RAM!)

Huy
14th March 2008, 10:26 AM
Unless he was talking about Mac Pro RAM ... maybe.

areal
14th March 2008, 10:39 AM
OWC is simply brilliant in regards to memory.

I saved over a thousand dollars by buying my 8Gb's from them.

Service was phenomenal, and the package (expressed) was here in 3 days. 3 days! from the States! I wait that long to get stuff from Sydney!
I just ordered 8GB for the Mac Pro too. No way could I match the price or even come close from within Australia.

Phase
14th March 2008, 10:41 AM
compared to what? 8GB of RAM in australia can be had for around $200 so its hard to see how you could have saved over a thousand dollars. (unless they paid you to take the RAM!)

MacPro 2008 revision RAM.

Those little black sticks are more expensive than gold.

areal
14th March 2008, 10:49 AM
MacPro 2008 revision RAM.

Those little black sticks are more expensive than gold.

Yeah, check this (http://www.streetwise.com.au/memory_results.php?mem_id=47) out. 8GB of Kingston for $1900.

decryption
14th March 2008, 10:55 AM
FB-DIMMs are horribly overpriced in Australia :(

madmacs
14th March 2008, 11:07 AM
I also bought RAM and HDD from OWC numerous times. I have not had a single problem with their RAM and I find their shipping very quick and the process seamless. The first RAM I bought from them had not missed a beat for more than 5 years.

I ordered some RAM on a Friday AM Australian EST and received the RAM via FedEx on the following Monday morning. I don't think the local retailers are any faster. In fact, being in Newcastle NSW, sometimes the stuff takes longer to come from Sydney than overseas.

Another company I would look into is Transintl.com. Their shipping is more expensive than OWC and their system is not as easy (no online postage calculator). But I like their 2.5" SATA enclosure. I have just ordered one and waiting for it to come...

I find mileage varies from generic RAM. Some are good and some are not so good. It is OK if you have a local dealer that you can get to quickly if something goes wrong and needs a replacement. I'd personally pay a little bit more for reliability. I have had generic RAM that worked for a while then failed, wasting my precious time when a deadline is looming.

With the petrol prices and AUD going up, it works out cheaper for me to buy overseas and have the stuff delivered to my door than driving to MSY and wait in a bloody queue for half hour. Not to mention when the staff decided that they would not sell me more than one HD at a time because of stock constraints - after I have queued up for half an hour!

OWC rocks!

My 2cents worth.

bolle
14th March 2008, 12:12 PM
another :thumbup::thumbup: for OWC ram. I bought the 2x2gb pack for my iMac. The delivery time was only a few days, and so far, i haven't had any issues with it.

...And with the dollar hovering around 0.95 :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

macphwoar
15th March 2008, 10:07 PM
Corsair Micro VS4GSDSKIT667D2 - $150.00 - Scorpion Technology (http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/25416/)

Corsair VS4GSDSKIT667D2 4GB KIT PC-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 RAM (http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=4GB+PC-5300+667+DDR2) - $101.70



OEM FR632B - $15.00 - Scorpion Technology (http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/21184/)

LASER 2.5 SATA HDD ENCLOSURE USB CASE (http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=sata+enclosure+2.5) - $10.74



Western Digital WD3200BEVT - $249.00 - Scorpion Technology (http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/26049/)

Total: $415
Western Digital WD3200BEVT (http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=WD3200BEVT) - $209.00

Total: $321 :D

oh yea.. plus postage for each item, say, $15 would come down to about $366. .. not bad. IMO. (I have no idea what I was thinking... ordering from OWC).

but, of course, you don't get the pleasure of receiving all your goodies in one nice package. :thumbdn:
and you have to go thru the trouble of registering on a bunch of websites. :thumbdn:

btw, im still waiting on confirmation of my order cancellation [OWC].

Huy
15th March 2008, 10:23 PM
$10.69 is the best price for the Laser 2.5" SATA case.

The rest are the best prices (as of this moment).

madmacs
15th March 2008, 11:06 PM
Corsair VS4GSDSKIT667D2 4GB KIT PC-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 RAM (http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=4GB+PC-5300+667+DDR2) - $101.70


LASER 2.5 SATA HDD ENCLOSURE USB CASE (http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=sata+enclosure+2.5) - $10.74


Western Digital WD3200BEVT (http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=WD3200BEVT) - $209.00

Total: $321 :D

oh yea.. plus postage for each item, say, $15 would come down to about $366. .. not bad. IMO. (I have no idea what I was thinking... ordering from OWC).

but, of course, you don't get the pleasure of receiving all your goodies in one nice package. :thumbdn:
and you have to go thru the trouble of registering on a bunch of websites. :thumbdn:

btw, im still waiting on confirmation of my order cancellation [OWC].

Good to see that prices have come down in Aus, partly due to the favourable exchange rate.

Your main savings come from the drive case. I have no idea about quality of the Laser brand but it certainly is cheap. I have always bought external cases with Firewire and the cheaper brands often don't use the Oxford chipset which usually means problem. I am sure with USB2, the difference in chipset probably is minimal.

I noticed the 320G 2.5" drive and memory are not in stock from many of the Aus sellers. I suspect they are waiting for new shipment hence the price drop.

Good luck with your purchase.

Huy
15th March 2008, 11:25 PM
I owned that same Laser 2.5" SATA enclosure before. It is cheap for what it is. It's alright, but I've moved up to a Seagate FreeAgent Go (160GB) hard disk now, external.

Laser comes with a screwdriver and the sidescrews are a bit annoying to screw in. Other than that, it's a cheap case designed to house a 2.5" SATA drive. The laser only comes in USB (2.0).

Good luck as well, with what you decide to do.

macphwoar
16th March 2008, 06:14 AM
Your main savings come from the drive case. I have no idea about quality of the Laser brand but it certainly is cheap. I have always bought external cases with Firewire and the cheaper brands often don't use the Oxford chipset which usually means problem. I am sure with USB2, the difference in chipset probably is minimal.

Good luck with your purchase.

umm.. can you please tell me the brand you use which has Oxford chipset. a linky would be appreicated. :D

actually, I was also looking for firewire. I don't want the USB alone enclosure.
In my last post, I posted Laser because I was trying to see what's the cheapest I can get here.

thing is, of you put the keywords SATA & FIREWIRE (http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=firewire+enclosure+2.5+sata) together or even SATA and IEEE1394 (http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=enclosure+2.5+sata+ieee1394), nothing shows up. which is strange. But if you type FIREWIRE (http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=enclosure+2.5+ieee1394) alone, you get hits but the things don't support SATA.

help me out here, people. .. price isn't an issue if it's gonna be under $50.

edit: on second thought, the fact that the enclosure being external and supports even Firewire, does it cripple the speed SATA interface gives?
OR
SATA or non-SATA doesn't matter if you're gonna use Firewire/USB 2.0?

I would need an enclosure that supports SATA interface if I'm swapping out my 250 GB SATA drive, right?

akaddk
16th March 2008, 07:05 AM
Total: $321 :D

Oh nice! I'm glad to see that site came back from death. It used to be named something else (I can't remember) and went under for awhile, saying that it would come back but after waiting for ages I stopped bothering to go.

madmacs
16th March 2008, 02:19 PM
umm.. can you please tell me the brand you use which has Oxford chipset. a linky would be appreicated. :D

actually, I was also looking for firewire. I don't want the USB alone enclosure.
In my last post, I posted Laser because I was trying to see what's the cheapest I can get here.

thing is, of you put the keywords SATA & FIREWIRE (http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=firewire+enclosure+2.5+sata) together or even SATA and IEEE1394 (http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=enclosure+2.5+sata+ieee1394), nothing shows up. which is strange. But if you type FIREWIRE (http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=enclosure+2.5+ieee1394) alone, you get hits but the things don't support SATA.

help me out here, people. .. price isn't an issue if it's gonna be under $50.

edit: on second thought, the fact that the enclosure being external and supports even Firewire, does it cripple the speed SATA interface gives?
OR
SATA or non-SATA doesn't matter if you're gonna use Firewire/USB 2.0?

I would need an enclosure that supports SATA interface if I'm swapping out my 250 GB SATA drive, right?

The OWC brand has lots of combination of USB2/FW400/FW800/SATA in their 2.5inch SATA cases. Locally, you can buy them from resellers selling stuff from Silicon Memory. I believe Clockwork sells stuff from Silicon Memory.

Otherwise, epowermac.com.au sells external enclosures that sport the different interfaces and they use the Oxford chipset. (In fact, they onsell items from OWC.)

They are all made in Taiwai, I believe.

I don't think you will find them under $50 bucks though.

I bought a Transintl last week. Still waiting for delivery. I like the aluminium case and Barefeats have given a good review on them. I bought the one with USB2/FW400/FW800/eSATA. Works out around $120 bucks.

eSATA theoretically will give you very similar speeds to the SATA interface. Firewire and USB2 will be slower. You drive interface determines what internal interface your drive case uses. If you are using SATA drives, you need something that goes from SATA -> USB2/eSATA.

Cheers.

macphwoar
16th March 2008, 05:31 PM
I don't think you will find them under $50 bucks though.

I bought a Transintl last week. Still waiting for delivery. I like the aluminium case and Barefeats have given a good review on them. I bought the one with USB2/FW400/FW800/eSATA. Works out around $120 bucks.

I'm just gonna use mine for occasional data transfer, so I won't need it for full speed.. or that expensive..

And thanks for the links.. I'll take a look :D



eSATA theoretically will give you very similar speeds to the SATA interface. Firewire and USB2 will be slower. You drive interface determines what internal interface your drive case uses. If you are using SATA drives, you need something that goes from SATA -> USB2/eSATA.

Cheers.

Thanks a lot for your explanation.. :thumbup:

Cheers!

macphwoar
17th March 2008, 05:53 AM
new corsair RAM available... check out my other post (http://forums.mactalk.com.au/29/46048-corsair-announce-perfomance-memory-macbooks.html#post464829).

cheapest A$128 is pretty cheap, IMHO