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kevin7
27th February 2008, 12:24 AM
Yes!!!
Penryn + MultiTouch +bigger hd space +more graphic card memory!
The basic model is worth to buy now!
Eventhough it doesnt have a new design, well, i don't care much bout that...
Gonna order one soon!!! hehee

jonnos
27th February 2008, 12:41 AM
ordering top 15" with faster HDD later today :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

**edit**
ordering on sunday lol

vecsty
27th February 2008, 12:47 AM
.........

shorebuck
27th February 2008, 12:54 AM
woooohoooo!

hitting the store tomorrow! oh, it's like being excited for christmas. or not. well, I'm happy I waited.

great news for me - was holding off for a MB Pro purchase until the end of Feb at the latest, hoping that I might be able to get more bang for my buck. And I'm sure work will be glad I'll no longer be killing bandwidth refreshing rumour sites.

Sorry Pismo, I'll find you a nice chair in front of the TV - I hear Matlock is on.

Evad
27th February 2008, 01:04 AM
Has the L2 Cache on the low end MBP dropped from the last model? It is now 3MB (the mid-range jumps to 6MB) when I think the older MBP low-end was 4MB?

Any thoughts?

p0w3r
27th February 2008, 01:14 AM
The MBP 17" HI-RES option is also LED now. (Standard 17" is not LED)

jonnos
27th February 2008, 01:17 AM
Has the L2 Cache on the low end MBP dropped from the last model? It is now 3MB (the mid-range jumps to 6MB) when I think the older MBP low-end was 4MB?

Any thoughts?

Yup, the last model was 4mb now its only 3mb top models has 6mb.

How long does it take for the australian store to come back online?

gareth
27th February 2008, 01:31 AM
now our store backup

jonnos
27th February 2008, 01:41 AM
w0000000t CHEAPER!
A$ 3,149.00 EDU PRICE on TOP 15" MODEL!

bljpoad
27th February 2008, 01:55 AM
Did the MacBooks get a bump too? I thought they topped out at 2.2GHz, but now they look like they are topping out at 2.4
- Berwyck

kevin7
27th February 2008, 02:00 AM
Did the MacBooks get a bump too? I thought they topped out at 2.2GHz, but now they look like they are topping out at 2.4
- Berwyck

yea, apple upgraded macbook too... but not multitouch..




im wondering, from 4mb to 3mb cache, would influence mbp's performance..

Lutze
27th February 2008, 02:10 AM
Your best bet on the performance questions is to check the intel site. It may be that the newer cpu is sharing the 3mb cache across both cores, and the older one with 2mb per core, this is speculation on my part... but it might be that they are also more efficient as well.

jonnos
27th February 2008, 02:28 AM
think australian stores will take a while to get these instock? eg. jbhifi?

if i purchase my mbp and an ipod and get the rebate can i resell the ipod later or is that ipod tied to my name/mbp?

Huy
27th February 2008, 03:04 AM
Yes you can do whatever you want with the iPod. It isn't tied to your name or MBP.

EDIT
If you don't register it, it should be fine. If you sell it, the new owner can register the iPod under their name but warranty will still apply. It should all be fine, in any case. They can still purchase AppleCare on the iPod at a later date.

jonnos
27th February 2008, 03:37 AM
Thats great!

Should be enough to get more RAM then resell the old sticks.

ken
27th February 2008, 05:45 AM
w0000000t CHEAPER!
A$ 3,149.00 EDU PRICE on TOP 15" MODEL!

Though it is important to note that the discount you get through Apple Education grows ever smaller. It was $300 off the previous base model ($2,899 to $2,599), now it is just $250 ($2,699 to $2,449).

gehenna
27th February 2008, 06:08 AM
oh man my chief photographer is going to cream! he just got approved to get a Macbook Pro the other day and I sourced some quotes yesterday. now that this one is in i'll have to refresh the quotes. lucky bugger!

Paxton
27th February 2008, 06:34 AM
think australian stores will take a while to get these instock? eg. jbhifi?

If you want your educational discount, that is irrelevant. To get the Edu Discount, you have to buy the computer from the Apple Store online. I don't know if this changes when the Apple Retail Stores open however.

It looks like I might have a reason to finally upgrade my PowerBook. The top 15-inch MBP is almost compelling buying now.

anarchron
27th February 2008, 06:36 AM
WTF? Why hasn't Apple upgraded the gfx card on the Pro?

I'm sure they could use something more powerful, e.g. GeForce 9 or Radeon HD 3xxx series.

LarryH
27th February 2008, 06:36 AM
think australian stores will take a while to get these instock? eg. jbhifi?

You're better off buying from the online Apple Store.

macgrrl
27th February 2008, 06:45 AM
son of a ....
my macbook SD is only 3 weeks old, not even. Man i am pissed!

Evad
27th February 2008, 06:57 AM
Your best bet on the performance questions is to check the intel site. It may be that the newer cpu is sharing the 3mb cache across both cores, and the older one with 2mb per core, this is speculation on my part... but it might be that they are also more efficient as well.

Thanks for the speculation Lutze. This was gonna be my next question. :)

Guess the interesting thing is to find out if the extra $$ for the bump from 3MB cache to 6MB (and extra HDD, VRAM etc) is good value or not. i.e. Of the three MBP's which is the best value right now?

gehenna
27th February 2008, 06:57 AM
If you want your educational discount, that is irrelevant. To get the Edu Discount, you have to buy the computer from the Apple Store online. I don't know if this changes when the Apple Retail Stores open however.

It looks like I might have a reason to finally upgrade my PowerBook. The top 15-inch MBP is almost compelling buying now.

I'm sure we got an student discount when we bought our macbook from an apple reseller.

snark
27th February 2008, 07:18 AM
Comparing the previous low end model (upgraded HD) and the current low end model (base), we have:

prev:
15", 2.2 GHz Core 2 Duo
2 GB RAM
160 GB HD
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT 128 MB
Superdrive
Airport Extreme, Bluetooth
US$2,074
A$3,009 (1.45 x)

new:
15", 2,4 GHz Core 2 Duo
2 GB RAM
200 GB HD
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT 256 MB
Superdrive
Airport Extreme, Bluetooth
US$1,999
$A2,699 (1.35 x)

There has been some significant improvement in the price ratio (but probably less than the exchange rate).

nortonjg
27th February 2008, 07:24 AM
it seems the apple remote comes as an option for the macbook pro for $29

didn't it use to come with it for free?

madmacs
27th February 2008, 07:24 AM
Thanks for the speculation Lutze. This was gonna be my next question. :)

Guess the interesting thing is to find out if the extra $$ for the bump from 3MB cache to 6MB (and extra HDD, VRAM etc) is good value or not. i.e. Of the three MBP's which is the best value right now?

The base 15" MBP 2.4GHz is like the top of range 15" spec before the update and cost the same as the base 15". There is now more HD space and cache and multitouch. To me, that's a great value 15". The refurb on Apple store sell the old one for not much less than the new's asking price.

For my use, I probably won't be needing 512Mb GFx and 1GHz difference between the 2.4 and 2.5GHz models will probably mean the speed differences trivial on daily use.

I hope I still have time to salary package this financial year!

snark
27th February 2008, 07:30 AM
The base 15" MBP 2.4GHz is like the top of range 15" spec before the update and cost the same as the base 15"...
Yes, almost the same specs. The US price has stayed the same, but the $A price has come down.


it seems the apple remote comes as an option for the macbook pro for $29

didn't it use to come with it for free?

Yes, it did. Is a remote useful on a laptop?

mac_man_luke
27th February 2008, 07:32 AM
Bummer, i wanted new keyboards - the macbook style ones are FAR better

Otherwise good

still hard to decide bottom of the range or top for the mbp 15"

AnthoMac
27th February 2008, 07:35 AM
it seems the apple remote comes as an option for the macbook pro for $29

didn't it use to come with it for free?

Yup. Probably because Apple figures you own multiple Macs and remotes already and that the pro customers don't necessarily use the remote often.

edit: beat me to it!


I was hoping it would look something like:
http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/02/macbookpro08b.jpg

gonty
27th February 2008, 07:36 AM
So yesterday I was all set to buy a base model macbook and then put 2 gig ram into it. Total cost would have been $1560 with edu discount.

Put it off for a day while my wife decided which iPod she wanted and when I heard the rumours.

Today I can get the base model with faster processor & bigger hd for $100 less.

Or, I can get the middle model which gives me the 2gig plus 160g hd and DVD burner for only $90 more than I was going to pay yesterday.

Decisions, decisions. Save some cash, or step it up a bit?

Pretty happy with my timing really.

snark
27th February 2008, 07:48 AM
Apple are charging $550 to upgrade to 4GB RAM. I'm assuming it would be cheaper to do this yourself. What's the price of 2 x 2GB sticks these days? And are there any brands to stick to (or avoid)?

gonty
27th February 2008, 07:51 AM
When planning to buy a macbook & upgrade, I was looking at streetwise. http://www.streetwise.com.au/memory.php

Much cheaper to DIY.

mac_man_luke
27th February 2008, 07:58 AM
i got a 2GB stick from OWC for under $100 delivered a few months ago - should be even cheaper now

Galumay
27th February 2008, 08:02 AM
Apple are charging $550 to upgrade to 4GB RAM. I'm assuming it would be cheaper to do this yourself. What's the price of 2 x 2GB sticks these days? And are there any brands to stick to (or avoid)?

you can get them from one of our sponsors for under $200, RAM city (http://www.ramcity.com.au/)

Devil
27th February 2008, 08:20 AM
This is much better than the (approx.) $1000 they were charging to upgrade to 4GB in the last model.

You can buy 2GB sticks for less than $100 each now (see MacTalk banner ads), so it is still expensive, but not as bad as before.

Some 'not as nerdy as us' people prefer factory fitted RAM simply because it is easier for them - no matter where you are in the world, AppleCare will cover you.

I want a 17 inch with 4GB RAM and the upgraded 1920 x 1200 LED backlit screen. But I just cant justify it right now :(

GraphicDZNR
27th February 2008, 08:23 AM
Apple are charging $550 to upgrade to 4GB RAM. I'm assuming it would be cheaper to do this yourself. What's the price of 2 x 2GB sticks these days? And are there any brands to stick to (or avoid)?

Yah... Bought 4GB from RAM City the other day for $179 dilivered next day :cool: Pimpin service!

gonty
27th February 2008, 08:25 AM
Bit the bullet.
New 2.4 gig white macbook on it's way.
My first mac.
Yippee!!!

snark
27th February 2008, 08:30 AM
This is much better than the (approx.) $1000 they were charging to upgrade to 4GB in the last model...

Yes - I thought it was a misprint the first time I saw it. I think it was actually $1100 to go from 1GB to 4GB at one point.

Thanks gonty, mac_man_luke and galumay for your suggestions.


Bit the bullet.
New 2.4 gig white macbook on it's way.
My first mac.
Yippee!!!
congrats. You'll love it, I'm sure

shorebuck
27th February 2008, 08:38 AM
my only decision is glossy or non glossy - i really like the glossy screen on the macbook, and ill be using my laptop attached to a monitor, clamshell mainly.

i think ill go glossy in the end, it doesnt worry me at much if i poke the screen by accident.

rickyd
27th February 2008, 08:39 AM
I'm surprised that there was no form factor modification.

gizo
27th February 2008, 08:39 AM
Bit the bullet.
New 2.4 gig white macbook on it's way.
My first mac.
Yippee!!!

Welcome aboard, Gonty. Someone will be with you shortly to teach you the secret handshake, and to insert your RDF receptor. ;)

But seriously, good stuff - it's exciting times... I'm looking forward to coming over and touching it...

Mikey D
27th February 2008, 08:46 AM
WTF? Why hasn't Apple upgraded the gfx card on the Pro?

I'm sure they could use something more powerful, e.g. GeForce 9 or Radeon HD 3xxx series.

To what? Mobile versions of those gpu's don't yet exist.
Course there is the 8800M, but it has a different thermal envelope and isnt' a possibility for a 15".

paulharrop
27th February 2008, 08:46 AM
What I really love about the new MBP is that my 15 month old MBP 2.33 is still the current look.

It still looks like the new models.

So there is no real desire to upgrade urgently. :):)

Paul

anarchron
27th February 2008, 08:49 AM
To what? Mobile versions of those gpu's don't yet exist.
Course there is the 8800M, but it has a different thermal envelope and isnt' a possibility for a 15".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_9_Series#9300M_G.7FUNIQ3cc6dcdf5ecc626e-nowiki-00000054-QINU.7F16.7FUNIQ3cc6dcdf5ecc626e-nowiki-00000055-QINU.7F

http://ati.amd.com/products/hd3000seriesmob.html

Those two would be a good upgrade.

MrJesseRoss
27th February 2008, 08:52 AM
I'm sure we got an student discount when we bought our macbook from an apple reseller.

The only resellers that do EDU discounts are the campus stores and Apple's online store. Resellers used to be able to, though. I bought my iMac from Next Byte with student discount in 2005, but when I got my Macbook last month, they weren't able to do it. I had to get it from Apple.

macphwoar
27th February 2008, 09:04 AM
Does anyone here knows which Apple EDU store do trade-in?
I'm thinking of upgrading my current MacBook to top end 15.4 MBP :D.
or i'm better off selling it later on ebay?
any help would be appreciated.

:D
cheers!

Huy
27th February 2008, 09:08 AM
Sell it on here :)

SilverJ
27th February 2008, 09:12 AM
It's a sad day for me, my MBP is no longer the fastest MBP out :-(
haha.

DebB
27th February 2008, 09:12 AM
I use my remote all the time for my MBP. Especially when it doubles as the media centre.

aeon
27th February 2008, 09:14 AM
I've got a previous model low end (2.2ghz 15" MBP) - and have no reason to upgrade, which I'm pretty happy about. :)

Nicely spec'd for new buyers though.

snark
27th February 2008, 09:15 AM
What I really love about the new MBP is that my 15 month old MBP 2.33 is still the current look.

It still looks like the new models.


Good design is ageless.

digger1914
27th February 2008, 09:28 AM
Oder placed this morning for the 15 inch 2.6 GHz model MBP.

Waiting ... waiting .. wiating!

snark
27th February 2008, 09:40 AM
my only decision is glossy or non glossy - i really like the glossy screen on the macbook, and ill be using my laptop attached to a monitor, clamshell mainly.

i think ill go glossy in the end, it doesnt worry me at much if i poke the screen by accident.

Check out this thread before you decide
http://forums.mactalk.com.au/showthread.php?t=44844

Mikey D
27th February 2008, 10:01 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_9_Series#9300M_G.7FUNIQ3cc6dcdf5ecc626e-nowiki-00000054-QINU.7F16.7FUNIQ3cc6dcdf5ecc626e-nowiki-00000055-QINU.7F

http://ati.amd.com/products/hd3000seriesmob.html

Those two would be a good upgrade.

No, they wouldn't. The mobile parts listed on that ATI page are decidedly low end, and the 9500M GS is the same chip as the 8600M GT.

It's all marketing mate ;)

When we see mobile 3800+/9600+ THEN it will be worth it to upgrade the GPU.

sectioneight
27th February 2008, 10:04 AM
I use my remote all the time for my MBP. Especially when it doubles as the media centre.

Me too - very cheap of them to cut out the remote as standard

cjuiz
27th February 2008, 10:12 AM
Even the new MacBooks don't include the remote. You have to pay the $29 to get one. Thats a bit cheap of Apple. They didn't even adjust the price to reflect this change. Dodgy.

decryption
27th February 2008, 10:19 AM
Bah, why are they dropping the remote? It can't cost them any more than $5 to throw in with the computer :(

forgie
27th February 2008, 10:29 AM
Bah, why are they dropping the remote? It can't cost them any more than $5 to throw in with the computer :(
And how many Macbooks do they ship per year? $5 * xMillion = a lot.

Just like how the iPods used to come with a charger - now they just come with a cable to charge from your computer.

Mikey D
27th February 2008, 10:44 AM
My MBP remote is still in the plastic, though i have used the macbook remote on occasion.

drzeus
27th February 2008, 10:45 AM
Bah, why are they dropping the remote? It can't cost them any more than $5 to throw in with the computer :(

I's not so much that they are trying to save money... It's more in they are trying to MAKE even more money. They figure as it can be labelled an 'accessory' they might as well try to rip us off on it.

I agree, it costs Apple peanuts to make such a simple remote in China. But by charging $30 extra for it that's a very healthy profit. And I bet a lot of people will purchase it when they see their brand spanking new Mac actually doesn't include something the older ones do (just have a look at the number of people that purchased the now optional AC charger for the Ipods!)

As others said, Apple is doing this more and more with their products.

zmit
27th February 2008, 10:52 AM
so so tempting to finally upgrade my macbook to the macbook pro now...... an extra $400EDU for a HELL of a lot of extra stuff sounds good
(HDD, GPU, Screen, connectors, firewire 800, faster processor, backlit keyboard, etc.)

i think i just convinced myself...

gonty
27th February 2008, 11:00 AM
Even the new MacBooks don't include the remote. You have to pay the $29 to get one. Thats a bit cheap of Apple. They didn't even adjust the price to reflect this change. Dodgy.

Seems cheap in a way, but on the other hand, they did adjust the price. Base model macbook is $100 cheaper than it was yesterday with better specs too. Buy a remote and you're still ahead by $70, a faster processor and 40gig on the hd.

cjuiz
27th February 2008, 11:11 AM
The new MacBooks only have a 3MB L2 cache, where as the previous ones had 4MB L2 cache.

nicwithsticks
27th February 2008, 11:15 AM
I'm just wondering what the lead time would be for one of these to reach stores. I'm going to pick one up as soon as I can.Maybe next week sometime? Does it usually take that long for resellers to pick up new models if they're just simple refreshes?

iTalk
27th February 2008, 11:33 AM
Order Placed Last Night:

Part Number: Z0EZ
Product Name: MacBook Pro, 15-inch, 2.5GHz
Options:
2.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
MacBook Pro 15-inch Widescreen Display
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
200GB Serial ATA @ 7200 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Keyboard/Mac OS
Country Kit
Ships by: 29/02/2008 - 04/03/2008
Delivers by: 06/03/2008 - 10/03/2008

I didn't order the remote as I already have one, but I never use it anyway.

gonty
27th February 2008, 11:40 AM
My macbook order is giving me a shipping date of today or tomorrow.

Ships by: 27/02/2008 - 28/02/2008
Delivers by: 28/02/2008 - 03/03/2008

There is a chance I will have it by the weekend!

halledise
27th February 2008, 11:53 AM
call me jaded but I'm left cold - luke warm at best - by these 'new' release MB Pro's

sure, the 512mb vid card on the upper end machines is a bonus but really Penryn processors, larger hard discs, and 2gb ram standard, and a multi-track touch pad, LED display on the upper end, is all great .........

but please - at what price

2700, 3400 3800 to start.

great for professionals who have a generous company or plenty of $ in their savings account

same old aluminium boring casing too.

then we have the MacBooks - which are in reality jumped up iBooks all plastic and still no dedicated video card! all my PC mates with their sub-2k notebook have got a least a 128mb video card capable of projecting a decent presentation, whilst my MB struggles

a faster processor isn't going to do a real lot apart from the oooh factor - it's got a penryn processor - naa naa na na nah

until Apple start treating us MacBook users (with limited resources) like grown-ups instead of kiddies, & until they bring out a MBPro with 13" screen and dedicated video card at an affordable price for the 'rest of us' & in a different enclosure, I'll be staying with my souped up MBook with shared graphics
(even with 4gb memory, 7200rpm hard disc and 2.2ghz santa processor it still isn't exactly a rocket when you open a few apps at once)

I'm still ticked at Apple for abandoning us 12" PBook people and forcing us to upscale to 15" expensive Pro's or dumb-down to shared graphics MB's and convince ourselves we are doing alright thank you very much.


my Wednesday arvo rant - bah humbug - I'm back to work :rolleyes:

OziMac
27th February 2008, 11:59 AM
Nice rant - hope you feel better! ;)

The 12 inch Powerbook at its absolute cheapest cost $2499. That's only $200 less than today's 15 inch MacBook Pro. I'd accept your gripe if it were about portability, but as far as price goes you might be splitting hairs. :)

[EDIT] Would be curious to see what you can get as far as dedicated graphics cards for PC's cheaper than MacBooks too. CHecking it out now. :)

Applecider
27th February 2008, 12:28 PM
I still live in hope of a 12 inch Macbook Pro. Now before you all hose me down and say that would kill the Macbook market or that the Macbook fills the gap, I say they will still ask a premium above the Macbook anyway and really I want the power of a Macbook Pro in 12 inches.

The other hope is a significant price drop in the Air as at it's current price I won't touch it.

Seriously the Macbook is still a heavy device for the mobile exec.

silverdreamer
27th February 2008, 12:29 PM
Just be happy Apple have not changed the MagSafe connector. I think Apple are learning.... Either that or this is just the last revision of this model line and the real replacement will come in Oct/Nov

Please explain.:confused:

And Halledise obviously likes to whine!:rolleyes:

snark
27th February 2008, 12:42 PM
I still live in hope of a 12 inch Macbook Pro...

I was thinking along the same lines myself for a while, but I've decided that the 15" model works for me, as a desktop replacement.


Seriously the Macbook is still a heavy device for the mobile exec.
Most mobile execs will probably end up with the featherweight Macbook Air, I guess.

Geoff3DMN
27th February 2008, 12:53 PM
then we have the MacBooks - which are in reality jumped up iBooks all plastic and still no dedicated video card! all my PC mates with their sub-2k notebook have got a least a 128mb video card

Very true, but It's no doubt for the same reason that the base model MacBook still has only a combo drive.

If Apple fitted even a based dedicated video card (say an 8400M-GS) into the entire MacBook range then I'm sure they'd reduce sales of the MacBook Pro to a significant degree.

What I would like to see (and I'm sure is reasonable from a marketing perspective) is the Black MacBook having a low power dedicated video card. It would differentiate it from the midrange white MacBook better too.

I'm not holding my breath though...

forgie
27th February 2008, 12:58 PM
then we have the MacBooks - which are in reality jumped up iBooks all plastic and still no dedicated video card! all my PC mates with their sub-2k notebook have got a least a 128mb video card capable of projecting a decent presentation, whilst my MB struggles
What the heck are you doing in your "decent presentations"? :)

I've given presentations in Keynote from my Macbook (rev a blackbook w/2GB RAM) on a projector, with cue-notes on the MB LCD, and everything was as smooth as butter. Unless you're piping out HD video, how does it affect a presentation in the slightest? I'm running a 1680x1050 external LCD with no problems right now on my GMA950.

I've had an iBook. I now have a Macbook. Macbooks run rings around iBooks. What's your complaint again? :p

digger1914
27th February 2008, 01:00 PM
For me it should be a significant improvement, as I am coming from a "first edition" MBP, so I expect a real increase in performance, and the extra hard disk will be invaluable.


MacBook Pro, 15-inch, 2.5GHz
Part Number: Z0EZ
Country Kit
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Keyboard/Mac OS
2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
250GB Serial ATA @ 5400 rpm
MacBook Pro 15-inch Widescreen Display

Ships By: 29/02/2008 - 04/03/2008
Delivers By: 06/03/2008 - 10/03/2008

forgie
27th February 2008, 01:04 PM
For those who still want an 8400M in their MB, the numbers in this thread (http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=139417) (randomly picked from Google) says that you get an extra 50% battery life with an X3100 vs an 8400M.

snark
27th February 2008, 01:20 PM
MacBook Pro, 15-inch, 2.5GHz
.
.
.
2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

Ships By: 29/02/2008 - 04/03/2008
Delivers By: 06/03/2008 - 10/03/2008

So it would appear that the 2.6 GHz CPU option does not add much to the delivery time.

iTalk
27th February 2008, 01:22 PM
Is the 0.1GHz increase worth its money ?

leon
27th February 2008, 01:25 PM
I don't really think you are paying for 100MHz, but rather the extra 3MB Cache.

iTalk
27th February 2008, 01:25 PM
Yeah but both the 2.5GHz & 2.6GHz come with 6MB Cache.

Edited: This is from http://www.apple.com/au/macbookpro/specs.html

15-inch MacBook Pro

2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 3MB on-chip shared L2 cache running 1:1 with processor speed; or 2.5GHz or 2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 6MB L2 cache

mac_man_luke
27th February 2008, 01:36 PM
the X3100 is meant to be significantly better than the gma950

sighclops
27th February 2008, 01:39 PM
holy shit! 512MB vram in the pros! woohoo!

Geoff3DMN
27th February 2008, 01:40 PM
...says that you get an extra 50% battery life with an X3100 vs an 8400M.

There's only one poster claiming that, several others mention it only being 20 or 30 minutes difference.

It's a bit academic anyway... Apple aren't going to put an 8400M into the MacBook.

However nice that would be :p

drzeus
27th February 2008, 01:58 PM
I still live in hope of a 12 inch Macbook Pro. Now before you all hose me down and say that would kill the Macbook market or that the Macbook fills the gap, I say they will still ask a premium above the Macbook anyway and really I want the power of a Macbook Pro in 12 inches.

The other hope is a significant price drop in the Air as at it's current price I won't touch it.

Seriously the Macbook is still a heavy device for the mobile exec.

I was living in that hope too till the Macbook Air was released....now that the Air is pitched for the mobile traveller there is as much chance of a 12" MBP as there is of Pigs flying on February 30th... It's a dead dream I'm afraid...

gonty
27th February 2008, 02:36 PM
My macbook order is giving me a shipping date of today or tomorrow.

Ships by: 27/02/2008 - 28/02/2008
Delivers by: 28/02/2008 - 03/03/2008

There is a chance I will have it by the weekend!

Order detail now says, "Prepared for shipment"

Mind you, I won't be able to compare this to the previous macbooks, just to my windows desktop that doesn't work anymore anyway.

SyncMan
27th February 2008, 03:03 PM
Why is there still a Mac in Apple's product range that has a Combo drive?

Apple should make those units defunct.

gizo
27th February 2008, 03:06 PM
Order detail now says, "Prepared for shipment"

Mind you, I won't be able to compare this to the previous macbooks, just to my windows desktop that doesn't work anymore anyway.

Brilliant! Maybe you can bring it over when you get it, and I will show you how it works - in exchange for you re-plastering our front room... ;)

bookmac
27th February 2008, 03:12 PM
Omg, im really upset. I just bought my Macbook last week on the education scheme.

gonty
27th February 2008, 03:16 PM
Brilliant! Maybe you can bring it over when you get it, and I will show you how it works - in exchange for you re-plastering our front room... ;)

I thought that mac os was supposed to be so much better than windows and heaps easier to use. Why do I need you to show me?

You just want to play with my new gadget while I renovate your house!

digger1914
27th February 2008, 03:16 PM
Is the 0.1GHz increase worth its money ?

I figured that as I am salary sacrificing it wasn't going to kill me. I would not expect to see too much difference I suppose.

themessup
27th February 2008, 03:33 PM
i'm a bit late but WOOOOO!!! YEAH!!!

lol!!! Now I can have a 200GB HDD and its cheaper. With salary sacrifice - only $1349!

snark
27th February 2008, 03:59 PM
... Now I can have a 200GB HDD and its cheaper. With salary sacrifice - only $1349!
Um...do you have an employer? I mean, aren't most 13 year olds still at school?

[edit] ignore the above - presumably one of your parents will be buying it :thumbup:

Meh 626
27th February 2008, 04:06 PM
Hurry!!!! *Pulls out Credit Card*

Thanks,
Meh 626 :)

aspro
27th February 2008, 04:06 PM
Well I was hoping for the iPhone/iPod touch SDK but I like the fact that the price on low end Macbooks dropped (especially on edu discount, should prove easier to switch friends :)).

The only glaring problem is the combo drive. Honestly, why is this still even offered? DVD burners could only be slightly (very slightly) more expensive than the drives they are offering now and look bad when compared against the PC laptops in the same price bracket.

LarryH
27th February 2008, 04:18 PM
Why hasn't anyone noticed that there is the 2GB shuffle on the Store now?

I know I don't care..

xfodder
27th February 2008, 04:26 PM
If you want your educational discount, that is irrelevant. To get the Edu Discount, you have to buy the computer from the Apple Store online. I don't know if this changes when the Apple Retail Stores open however.

It looks like I might have a reason to finally upgrade my PowerBook. The top 15-inch MBP is almost compelling buying now.

thats not true, you can purchase from any on campus mac centre ... most uni's have one.

Meh 626
27th February 2008, 04:27 PM
thats not true, you can purchase from any on campus mac centre ... most uni's have one.

Are high school students able to get Education Discounts from Apple?

Thanks,
Meh 626 :)

STK
27th February 2008, 04:29 PM
Are high school students able to get Education Discounts from Apple?

Thanks,
Meh 626 :)

Don't think so.

You need to be a teacher or at uni/tafe...

OziMac
27th February 2008, 04:30 PM
Are high school students able to get Education Discounts from Apple?

Thanks,
Meh 626 :)

No.

http://forums.mactalk.com.au/showthread.php?t=9599&highlight=apple+education

Meh 626
27th February 2008, 04:30 PM
Don't think so.

You need to be a teacher or at uni/tafe...

Darn,

Look's like Getmac.com.au for me!

Thanks,
Meh 626 :)

P.S Thanks Ozi Mac!

shorebuck
27th February 2008, 06:56 PM
Just ordered the 2.4 15" MacBook Pro with a 250GB hard disk BTO - now to
play the waiting game..

snark
27th February 2008, 06:57 PM
Darn,

Look's like Getmac.com.au for me!

Thanks,
Meh 626 :)

Maybe wait until they've updated their website - it's still showing the old models for me.

Meh 626
27th February 2008, 07:01 PM
Maybe wait until they've updated their website - it's still showing the old models for me.

Yeah. Only if I could get mine sooner. Made an agreement with my parents. :(

Have you had any experience with Getmac.com.au?

Thanks,
Meh 626 :D

papervagina
27th February 2008, 07:04 PM
What I really love about the new MBP is that my 15 month old MBP

15 months old? That's nothing! People with 5 year old 17" Powerbooks are still sporting the current look...

snark
27th February 2008, 07:18 PM
Have you had any experience with Getmac.com.au?

Nope. I bought my mini from Comp Now (bricks & mortar shop). I don't mind the interweb for small purchases, but - call me old fashioned - I feel more comfortable making bigger purchases in person. More so if I've visited them to pick their brains about which model to buy.

halledise
27th February 2008, 09:42 PM
Nice rant - hope you feel better! ;)

The 12 inch Powerbook at its absolute cheapest cost $2499. That's only $200 less than today's 15 inch MacBook Pro. I'd accept your gripe if it were about portability, but as far as price goes you might be splitting hairs. :)

[EDIT] Would be curious to see what you can get as far as dedicated graphics cards for PC's cheaper than MacBooks too. CHecking it out now. :)


yes thanx I do - it is after all irreverent wednesday!

always good to get it out

I love my MB but - why do Apple always increment when it comes to portables, yet blow us and the opposition away when it comes to desktops?


Please explain.:confused:

And Halledise obviously likes to whine!:rolleyes:

flick off - you've had a few good whinges in your time too I've noticed - no offence!

mechcon
27th February 2008, 09:53 PM
What I really love about the new MBP is that my 15 month old MBP 2.33 is still the current look.

It still looks like the new models.

So there is no real desire to upgrade urgently. :):)

Paul

I got a 2.16 of what you're referring to, Hear Hear! Even the core duo (Rev A) macbook pros are suffice :)

Quasar
27th February 2008, 10:24 PM
Very true, but It's no doubt for the same reason that the base model MacBook still has only a combo drive.


True. Integrated video is the reason why I can't go the Macbook route.

Huy
27th February 2008, 11:16 PM
I wish the MBP had the Air keyboard and wide-ass Air trackpad with mini trackpad button.

And a magnetic latch too, but I just want the first two really (Air's keyboard plus bigger/wider trackpad...).

I'm getting turned off (not sexually) by the Pro because of these "old" keyboards and the "small" trackpad (I know they're both great features etc but the Air is very nice to use).

Think a MacBook would just suit me - again. That or an Air.

macuzer
27th February 2008, 11:41 PM
DVD burners could only be slightly (very slightly) more expensive than the drives they are offering now and look bad when compared against the PC laptops in the same price bracket.

- I'd say that Combo drives would be more expensive even... I mean WHERE could you find a CD ONLY burner these days??? You'd have to pay a premium! :confused:

halledise
28th February 2008, 04:05 AM
perhaps this will herald the real 'refresh' of the MB Pro and MB line we've all been looking for?


http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/02/27/next_apple_notebook_refresh_rumored_for_june.html


and regarding the comments on Apple retaining a combo drive in the MB line-up - someone at Cupertino is missing the point that no one wants 'em these days - even my friend's 10 year old is playing most effectively with iDVD and obviously need SuperDrive.

to have them as a cheaper option for schools doesn't cut it in 2008.

perhaps when unit sales drop below a certain level, Steve will pull them

on another note - & some say that Christians have kissed their brains good-bye - well on the strength of this article, I'd say 'most definitely not!'

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/26/apple-working-to-deploy-iphones-at-universities/ ;)

Geoff3DMN
28th February 2008, 05:58 AM
I wonder if that would herald new quad-core mobile laptops... now that would be fun :)

detail
28th February 2008, 07:26 AM
It seems there is little performance boost with the Penryn processor.

But it is significantly better with battery life.

http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=3240

snark
28th February 2008, 12:16 PM
perhaps this will herald the real 'refresh' of the MB Pro and MB line we've all been looking for?


http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/02/27/next_apple_notebook_refresh_rumored_for_june.html


Could be. Apart from the speed bump to the frontside bus, Montevina will also have WiMax on board, and native support for Blu-Ray (whatever that entails).

kevin7
28th February 2008, 02:48 PM
according to the MacNN's report...


Less than 24 hours after their introduction, Apple's new MacBook Pros based on Intel's Penryn Core 2 Duo architecture have been benchmarked using the venerable Geekbench utility. PrimateLabs tested the MacBook Pro (Early 2008) with an Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50GHz and MacBook Pro (Early 2008) with Intel Core 2 Duo T8300 @ 2.40GHz; comparing them to the MacBook Pro (Mid 2007) with an Intel Core 2 Duo T7800 @ 2.60GHz and MacBook Pro (Mid 2007) with an Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 @ 2.40GHz. The results show that the old 2.4GHz MacBook Pros are actually faster than the new 2.4GHz models -- a discrepancy explained by the smaller L2 cache on the new models. The 2008 2.5GHz MacBook Pro wasn't able to best the old 2.6GHz T7700-based model.

As noted by Primate Labs "when you consider the new MacBook Pro 2.4GHz is the base model, while the old MacBook Pro 2.4GHz was the mid-range model, the small drop in performance comes with a significant reduction in price. Plus, the new Penryn processor uses less energy than the old Merom processor, which means a cooler laptop with increased battery life."

http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/02/27/mbp.benchmarks/


3mb cache in the basic model does affect the performance for a little bit, but well, it still fast enough, plus longer battery life and less heat... worth it!

spargo
29th February 2008, 06:52 AM
Job done (I hate you decryption!):

Macbook Pro 15" 2.4GHz / 2GB / 200GB 5400RPM / 256MB Vram - $2699

I'm sure plenty of people have heard me say over the last year or so that I wouldn't get another Pro machine - but, I just couldn't resist!!!

Decided against a purchase while in the U.S. next week - need an A$ invoice to claim for work. Will get all the extras from the SFO Apple Store (Remote, AppleCare, etc) to save some coin with this amazing A$-US$ exchange rate..

gonty
29th February 2008, 07:13 AM
New macbook (my first mac) shipped yesterday. Hopeful that it turns up today & I have the weekend to play!

mrcooms
29th February 2008, 07:49 AM
Been itching for this latest update, currerntly owning an original core due MBP .

Just ordered myself last night from Domayne the 15"/2.5Ghz/2GB/250GB 54000rpm/ 512 Vram, was super stoked the day after the laptop was released domayne brought in 40 months interest free this weekend only :), which made the purchase even sweeter!

spargo
29th February 2008, 03:12 PM
Job done (I hate you decryption!):

Macbook Pro 15" 2.4GHz / 2GB / 200GB 5400RPM / 256MB Vram - $2699

I'm sure plenty of people have heard me say over the last year or so that I wouldn't get another Pro machine - but, I just couldn't resist!!!

Decided against a purchase while in the U.S. next week - need an A$ invoice to claim for work. Will get all the extras from the SFO Apple Store (Remote, AppleCare, etc) to save some coin with this amazing A$-US$ exchange rate..


Cancel that - walked into Next Byte Adelaide St Brisbane just after lunch and got the last one over the counter. Cancelled the online order..

It's a damn small box!!

spargo
29th February 2008, 04:00 PM
the X3100 is meant to be significantly better than the gma950

when you see them instore next to each other, they look much much better than the old setup.. though, I still went with the MBP as it's screen still shits all over the MacBook

LevMac
29th February 2008, 08:31 PM
Myer store on the Gold Coast just received a heap load of the new Penryn Macbooks and a few other retailers got some in also by the sounds of it....

snark
29th February 2008, 08:37 PM
Does anyone know whether resellers are likely to be stocking the 15" MBPs with the 7200 rpm drives? Or will they only be keeping the standard models?

Basically, I want to walk into a shop tomorrow and buy one - I don't want to have to wait for it to be built.

Evad
1st March 2008, 07:34 AM
Does anyone know whether resellers are likely to be stocking the 15" MBPs with the 7200 rpm drives? Or will they only be keeping the standard models?

Basically, I want to walk into a shop tomorrow and buy one - I don't want to have to wait for it to be built.

I don't think so. As far as I am aware the 7200rpm drive is a BTO option. :(

gameon
1st March 2008, 08:13 AM
yea build to order only

snark
1st March 2008, 08:20 AM
Thanks evad, gameon.

Patience is a virtue, as they say....but who the hell wants to be virtuous? :)

nicwithsticks
1st March 2008, 09:12 AM
I should have one of the new 2.4Ghz MBP's by the middle/end of next week.

Very exciting. My PowerBook has known for some time that its time is almost up and has been performing like a dog.

I thought about waiting for a Montevina refresh, but I just don't care enough and I want one now.

snark
1st March 2008, 09:17 AM
I should have one of the new 2.4Ghz MBP's by the middle/end of next week.

Just wondering, did you order on line, or over the counter.
I will probably be ordering mine today :D (if, that is, I can decide between glossy or matte).

spargo
1st March 2008, 09:29 AM
Just some info for those who are looking around (in brisbane).

As I said above, I got ours (using it now, the multi-touch is brilliant!!) from Next Byte in Brisbane on Adelaide St. It was the last on from a shipment they got on Friday. They still have MacBooks as at yesterday lunchtime.

I called Myer Chermside's Apple counter on Friday, and they were apparently week's off of having stock - seemed wierd to me. I didn't check any other Myer stores. Mac1 (my usual store) at New Farm said they were getting stock Friday, and asked me to call back Saturday morning (today)- if MTau user Casey still works there he may be able to confirm this. Next Byte had one ready to roll so I went there.

Good hunting!

nicwithsticks
1st March 2008, 06:09 PM
Just wondering, did you order on line, or over the counter.
I will probably be ordering mine today :D (if, that is, I can decide between glossy or matte).


I ended up getting it today, I bought it from Dicksmith Powerhouse. I was waiting for them to come in, and they came in early. I was going to order it online from Apple, but I needed finance, so DSE it was.

Bloody lovely machine though, such a step up from the PowerBook. Fast and beautiful. I'm going to enjoy getting to know this machine for the next few days.

halledise
2nd March 2008, 07:28 PM
Thanks evad, gameon.

Patience is a virtue, as they say....but who the hell wants to be virtuous? :)

most of us

shorebuck
2nd March 2008, 11:13 PM
I'd hope to have mine sometime this week, I ordered the MBP through uni with the 250g BTO option - I don't imagine it'll be long as we already received a MB on Thursday. All in all, just knowing I'm getting a bit more for my money than when I was thinking of getting one in January makes the wait worthwhile.

thebookfreak58
2nd March 2008, 11:15 PM
Is there much difference between the 256 and 512MB graphics in terms of games?

Evad
2nd March 2008, 11:25 PM
Is there much difference between the 256 and 512MB graphics in terms of games?

Exactly what i'd like to know. :)

I am also curious as to the benefit of the extra 3mb cache in the mid range MBP (over the base model). Would the step up be obvious to the lay person (ie. real world usage - not just benchmarks)?

Also would having an extra 256MB on the graphics card and an extra 3MB L2 cache use more power than the base model machine? I wonder if battery life differs between the models?

Currawong
2nd March 2008, 11:34 PM
The way to test that would be for someone with some games to log the memory usage when they run. I believe there's an NVidia utility (not from the company) that can do this. I doubt there'd be a difference though.

Evad
2nd March 2008, 11:41 PM
Thanks Currawong!

Now to find some gamers with MBP's to test. :) *looks around for gamers*

Just thought of something else regarding the VRAM. when attached to dual displays is the VRAM shared between the two displays? (ie. 256MB becomes 128/128 for each screen)

eni
3rd March 2008, 06:51 AM
Exactly what i'd like to know. :)

I am also curious as to the benefit of the extra 3mb cache in the mid range MBP (over the base model). Would the step up be obvious to the lay person (ie. real world usage - not just benchmarks)?


I know you said not benchmarks, but in addition to them there's some commentary at AnandTech: Apple’s 45nm Refresh: New MacBook & MacBook Pro (http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=3246&p=12) .

shorebuck
3rd March 2008, 12:15 PM
I reckon the 256MB will be fine for games - plus, I can't afford the 512 :)

I'll be trying the following on it - WoW (native), Dawn of War (Windows), UT2003- and probably the latest one(Windows), COD2, BF2, umm few others (Windows) - and if I can get Warcraft 3 and Starcraft going local, I'll give them a hoy.

I'll see if I can give some sort of useful feedback.

spargo
3rd March 2008, 12:57 PM
I've got a base-model latest MBP which I could run tests on.. drop me a line via my contact info in my user profile.

Evad
3rd March 2008, 03:10 PM
thanks Spargo - email sent :-)

bowseruni
3rd March 2008, 06:28 PM
ordered 17" MPB today
2.5ghz
200gb @7200rpm HDD
2 gb ram ( getting 4gb aftermarket)
hi res glossy screen
remote
aperature 2
iwork 08
vmfusion

first time mac user, can't wait

snark
3rd March 2008, 07:11 PM
ordered 17" MPB today
2.5ghz
200gb @7200rpm HDD
2 gb ram ( getting 4gb aftermarket)
hi res glossy screen
remote
aperature 2
iwork 08
vmfusion

first time mac user, can't wait
And jumping in at the deep end by the looks of your order... :)

Geoff3DMN
3rd March 2008, 07:30 PM
Most game card reviews normally say that 256mb vs 512mb of memory is only a problem at higher resolutions in games with AA turned on.

Given that the 8600GT-M is an underclocked 8600GT people aren't going to be running native screen resolution with AA turned on anyway I'd think.

Does it really matter if an unplayable frame rate becomes half the speed?

People should be playing at lower non-native resolutions to maintain FPS (where the 256 won't be the limiting factor anyway). :)

spargo
3rd March 2008, 07:44 PM
anyone got their BTO yet? when I had an order in place for mine (which i cancelled and went in-store), a HD changed BTO order was to arrive tuesday/wednesday, so some must be arriving soon..

snark
3rd March 2008, 07:59 PM
anyone got their BTO yet? when I had an order in place for mine (which i cancelled and went in-store), a HD changed BTO order was to arrive tuesday/wednesday, so some must be arriving soon..
Not yet - but I was thinking of starting a new thread called 'MacBook Pro Rev E. Build to Order waiting time' - catchy title, eh?

Evad
3rd March 2008, 08:11 PM
Most game card reviews normally say that 256mb vs 512mb of memory is only a problem at higher resolutions in games with AA turned on.

Given that the 8600GT-M is an underclocked 8600GT people aren't going to be running native screen resolution with AA turned on anyway I'd think.

Does it really matter if an unplayable frame rate becomes half the speed?

People should be playing at lower non-native resolutions to maintain FPS (where the 256 won't be the limiting factor anyway). :)

Thanks Geoff... that makes perfect sense. I don't plan on attaching the MBP to an external display much either so the 256MB will do me fine.

Cheers

Evad
3rd March 2008, 08:21 PM
Not yet - but I was thinking of starting a new thread called 'MacBook Pro Rev E. Build to Order waiting time' - catchy title, eh?

What was your estimated delivery date when you placed the BTO order? Can these estimates be trusted? I am just about to order one...

EDIT: Sorry for double post, this should have gone into message above.

snark
3rd March 2008, 08:30 PM
What was your estimated delivery date when you placed the BTO order? Can these estimates be trusted? I am just about to order one...

I ordered mine through getmac.com.au - their web page said 4-7 days (which is a drag, but I figured for 6% off, I could cope with), but they sent me an email today that said mid-fricking-March which is verging on intolerable. :eek:

But then I took a deep breath, and remembered that I waited longer for my Mac Mini, and it didn;t kill me.

timwallG5
3rd March 2008, 08:35 PM
Most game card reviews normally say that 256mb vs 512mb of memory is only a problem at higher resolutions in games with AA turned on.

Given that the 8600GT-M is an underclocked 8600GT people aren't going to be running native screen resolution with AA turned on anyway I'd think.

Does it really matter if an unplayable frame rate becomes half the speed?

People should be playing at lower non-native resolutions to maintain FPS (where the 256 won't be the limiting factor anyway). :)

I have an officially "old" MacBook Pro - a 2.2GHz Santa Rosa 15" with 128MB VRAM - and it runs most games perfectly, even with it's "mere" 128MB.

For example:

- Medal of Honour - Airborne (full settings, native 1440x900 resolution) lag free
- FEAR, FEAR Extraction Point, FEAR Perseus Mandate (full settings, native) still lag free
- Call of Duty 2 - lag free at maximum settings
- Doom 3 (gettin' old now for a benchmark) smooth at full settings

All these games have 2x FSAA turned on. What catches you is if you turn on 16x Anistropic filtering, which is basically disabled in most mobile graphics cards because it would drain batteries pretty quickly.

I've got a ton more but my Bootcamp partition is only 40GB and those few games fill it up.

Point is, 256mb vs 128mb gives you about 8fps difference under optimum conditions - especially since the "new" MacBook Pros use the same 8600GT M chipset as the "old" MacBook Pros. I would not be surprised if the benchmarks show a very close result.
Now if Apple used the 8800GT M chipset in the MacBook Pros, you would see a big difference.

The "basic" MacBook Pro is still faster for games than a 20" iMac - it's funny, but true. The ATI chips in those iMacs are laughably slow, and I don't know if it's drivers or what; but I've played side-by-side FEAR at max settings on my MacBook Pro and a friend's iMac, and the MacBook Pro with less VRAM blitzes the iMac.

The new "basic" MacBook Pro would wipe the floor with the 20" iMac, plain and simple.

jonnos
3rd March 2008, 08:37 PM
when in dual screen mode it shares the video card ram 50/50 right? does that mean if u have ur mbp closed or open but lcd off and just running off the external it uses all of the 512(current top model) or 256(current bottom model) RAM that is on the video card?

oh and my shipping dates for my mbp with 200gb 7200rpm upgrade.
ordered sunday night.

Ships By: 05/03/2008 - 07/03/2008
Delivers By: 11/03/2008 - 14/03/2008

thebookfreak58
3rd March 2008, 08:58 PM
I am just about to order one...

w00t w00t!!! Go Dave! Can't wait to see it :-P

Jizo
3rd March 2008, 11:42 PM
Hey guys, first time poster here, but a mac user for a while (at Uni).

I jumped in and bought my first Mac, a Macbook Pro, low end 15inch but with 7200rpm hard drive and 4gb ram (too expensive but couldn't be bothered with DIY haha). Couldn't see a point for my use in spending that much for the high end.

It shipped on saturday and I am now eagerly sitting by my door until it arrives. :p :D

Evad
4th March 2008, 12:11 AM
Okay... thanks for all the replies to my questions re: VRAM, BTO (http://forums.mactalk.com.au/29/45394-possible-disadvantages-ordering-bto-cto-macbook-pro.html) & cache. I have finally taken the plunge and put the $$ down.

1x Base model 15" MBP ordered. :)
Upgrade to 7200RPM drive
Glossy Screen.

I did what most here suggested and went into a store and compared the matte vs glossy screen and I much preferred the glossy. I am no graphic designer so the "matte is better for design" argument is lost on me. ;)

Estimated delivery date is much the same as Jonnos and Petronius. AppleStore is showing expected delivery of 13/03/08.

Now the wait begins. Perhaps I can use that time to earn some extra moo-lah's to pay for a ram upgrade next courtesy of OWC (http://www.owcomputing.com/) of course. :)

deco20
4th March 2008, 05:48 AM
Just placed order for new macbook. Now to sell 32" philips lcd tv unopened, non working mac mini 1.66 (logic board), ibook clamshell (works great) and anything else I can find to pay for this sucker.

digger1914
4th March 2008, 02:20 PM
My new baby just arrived at work. Ordered it last Wednesday.

MBP 2.6. 250 Gig HD.

It's play time tonight!!!

snark
4th March 2008, 02:28 PM
My new baby just arrived at work. Ordered it last Wednesday.

MBP 2.6. 250 Gig HD.

It's play time tonight!!!
Ooh, that's exciting. I gather it was a Build to Order (give the HD size). Did you get it direct from Apple, or through a reseller? (not prying, just trying to build up a picture of what is the fastest channel)

digger1914
4th March 2008, 02:30 PM
Ooh, that's exciting. I gather it was a Build to Order (give the HD size). Did you get it direct from Apple, or through a reseller? (not prying, just trying to build up a picture of what is the fastest channel)

The BTO was due to the processor speed of 2.6 rather than the hard disc which is bog ordinary for the 15".

I got it through the Apple store

PS - it's all going fine!

michaelhoward
5th March 2008, 07:46 AM
Im getting a little frustrated - I ordered a macbook pro on the day they came out (I got up at the crack of dawn and placed the order through the apple store). Now its passed the "Delivered by" window Im getting annoyed.

Its still set at "Not yet shipped". I wish they would indicate why. I've checked the other two items ive ordered (Magsafe airline adapter and a DVI to Video adapter) and all of them are in stock.

Is anyone else still left hanging not knowing when theirs will arrive? Anyone got any hints or tips about how to chase it up?

27/02/2008 at 03:56 AM JST

Not yet shipped
Ships by: 29/02/2008 - 04/03/2008
Delivers by: 06/03/2008 - 11/03/2008
Product Qty.
APPLE DVI TO VIDEO ADAPTER KIT-GEN 1
MAGSAFE AIRLINE POWER ADAPTER-INT 1
MBP 15/2.4 Custom Configured 1

Evad
5th March 2008, 11:16 AM
Michael... looking at what you have listed above the actual estimated delivery window is 6/3 - 11/3. That does not begin until tomorrow?

I'd say no need to worry just yet. :)

michaelhoward
5th March 2008, 11:39 AM
Yes but I was hoping to see the status actually change to "Ready to Ship" or "In transit" etc. I dont mind if its lost in a box somewhere over the pacific, I just want to know that its actually in a box and left the warehouse. The last date of leaving the warehouse should have been 4th March. So Im just hoping they haven't forgotten about me :)

Jizo
5th March 2008, 12:53 PM
I ordered after you (late morning), but mine is *apparently* in my city and "out for delivery" although it hasn't arrived yet :(

Katey
5th March 2008, 01:15 PM
I ordered basemodel BTO macbook pro on monday night, 250gig drive (I see most people optioned the 7200 rpm) with the glossy. Anyway *late* last night at 3am or so apple sent an email saying its been shipped and will be delivered by the 10/03/2008. Though my tracking link opens TNT UK and says consignment not found :eek:

Did anyone else have this happen? I emailed my personal apple assistant and I am awaiting the response now.

Also was anyone else offered deals on there purchase, is this normal?

michaelhoward
5th March 2008, 01:24 PM
I ordered after you (late morning), but mine is *apparently* in my city and "out for delivery" although it hasn't arrived yet :(

Hmm. Im starting to guess that maybe the other components (like the adapters) arent shipping from China but somewhere completely different.. and they're shipping them to china first to put into a box to ship to me. Now Im regretting clicking that "ship together" checkbox. :(

MissionMan
5th March 2008, 01:58 PM
I ordered basemodel BTO macbook pro on monday night, 250gig drive (I see most people optioned the 7200 rpm) with the glossy. Anyway *late* last night at 3am or so apple sent an email saying its been shipped and will be delivered by the 10/03/2008. Though my tracking link opens TNT UK and says consignment not found :eek:

Did anyone else have this happen? I emailed my personal apple assistant and I am awaiting the response now.

Also was anyone else offered deals on there purchase, is this normal?

This normally happens for about half a day after first shipping. The company (apple or any other) gets a number from the courier company but its only registered in the system when the courier gets back to the office at the end of the day. From there the updates are pretty much instant.

Katey
5th March 2008, 02:13 PM
This normally happens for about half a day after first shipping. The company (apple or any other) gets a number from the courier company but its only registered in the system when the courier gets back to the office at the end of the day. From there the updates are pretty much instant.

Thanks Mission ^_^ I need to stop clicking the tracking and be patient :)

MissionMan
5th March 2008, 04:09 PM
don't worry, Katey, I understand the pain. I'm in a similar boat, got a quote for a top spec 15" MBP and waiting for my company to approve the purchase so I can go collect.

Not sure if I should join a support group or throw myself more into extreme sports to try keep my mind off the wait :p

iTalk
5th March 2008, 05:14 PM
My wife got it this morning, I went to MSY and bought the 4GB of A-DATA SO-DIMM RAM for $100.
I came home, turned it on ( was working fine), turned it off, installed the RAM in less than 5 minutes. Now I have a 4GB in my new MBP :D

jrad
5th March 2008, 05:19 PM
Now I have a 4GB in my new MBP :D

I believe I'll be seeing my MBP tomorrow, so this is of interest to me! Can you see the whole 4GB of ram? I know that in 32bit machines you typically cannot address the full 4 gig of ram...

Oh, and would there be a difference in quality with the ram being so cheap? I push my systems to the limit with video\motion etc, so i want to make sure that if I do order cheap ram it'll run well...

Thanks! :)

iTalk
5th March 2008, 05:33 PM
I haven't used mine to the max. As a matter of fact, the only reason I have 4GB is to make me work comfortably when using Vmware. I tend to use lots of CAD programs in Windows environment and 2GB is certainly not enough.

As for the quality of the RAM, there is no different as they all seem to be manufactured in Taiwan, and they all come with life time warranty.

iTalk
5th March 2008, 07:24 PM
Using Rember (http://www.kelleycomputing.net:16080/rember/), all tests passed successfully, so I believe the $50 modules are pretty decent.

Jizo
5th March 2008, 08:38 PM
So my brand new Macbook Pro arrived at my house today, 7 freakin' minutes after I left for work!!!

I hate when crap like that happens :mad: :rolleyes:

Ah well, one more day won't hurt I guess.

anarchron
5th March 2008, 09:09 PM
I wonder how much more of drain on the battery is the 7200 hdd vs the 5400..

STK
5th March 2008, 09:12 PM
I wonder how much more of drain on the battery is the 7200 hdd vs the 5400..

I read somewhere that there isn't much. ~5 mins really...

Evad
5th March 2008, 10:55 PM
On the RAM issue (good pickup on $50 sticks at MSY Khaled - thanks) the spec RAM used by Apple is 667mhz but I noticed there is PC-6400 (800mhz) SO-DIMMS available now. (see MSY (http://www.msy.com.au), Umart (http://www.umart.com.au/) etc.)

Can the 800mhz SO-DIMMS be used in the new MBP's? and if so, Is there any advantage in using these RAM modules over the 667mhz?

raj
5th March 2008, 11:05 PM
I've got my new MBP 2.6Ghz, just put a review up here: Review: Apple MacBook Pro (2008) (http://www.idontquiteknow.com/2008/03/05/review-apple-macbook-pro-2008/)

thebookfreak58
5th March 2008, 11:10 PM
Can the 800mhz SO-DIMMS be used in the new MBP's? and if so, Is there any advantage in using these RAM modules over the 667mhz?

Found the answer Dave. DDR2 800 in penryn Macbook Pros? - Mac Forums (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&goto=lastpost&threadid=447136)

FSB = 800Mhz
Ram Controller = 667Mhz

Evad
6th March 2008, 10:19 AM
Thanks Mate! :-) much appreciated.

snark
6th March 2008, 11:00 AM
Found the answer Dave. DDR2 800 in penryn Macbook Pros? - Mac Forums (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&goto=lastpost&threadid=447136)

FSB = 800Mhz
Ram Controller = 667Mhz
Thanks for your post - the consensus in that thread is that's it's probably not a good idea to use 800 MHz RAM in the Penryn MBPs.

jrad
7th March 2008, 12:02 AM
I got my macbook pro today... I was loving it until I found red dead pixels in it. Really really really angry, because Apple said it wouldn't be covered. We don't pay 3 grand for a faulty product - I do lots of photoshop and video work, and every pixel counts. I can't justify but we're expected to put up with that, so I'm not going to :p I'll be at the point of purchase 9am tomorrow seeing what can be done...

I really hope it can get replaced. Has anyone else suffered a similar issue?

Katey
7th March 2008, 01:15 AM
I got my macbook pro today... I was loving it until I found red dead pixels in it. Really really really angry, because Apple said it wouldn't be covered. We don't pay 3 grand for a faulty product - I do lots of photoshop and video work, and every pixel counts. I can't justify but we're expected to put up with that, so I'm not going to :p I'll be at the point of purchase 9am tomorrow seeing what can be done...

I really hope it can get replaced. Has anyone else suffered a similar issue?

I hope not, what does apple cover , less than 5 dead pixels is ok or something?

My ipod touch has 5 white deadpixels, in 2 clusters. will report when mbp arrives

Evad
7th March 2008, 06:48 AM
Woke up to a nice surprise today... my MBP has now SHIPPED! :-)

Says expected delivery 13/3. Happy days. Fingers crossed all arrives okay, no dead pixels.

snark
7th March 2008, 07:33 AM
Sorry to hear about that jazzdog - good luck with getting a replacement.

Evad
7th March 2008, 08:39 AM
Petronius - has your MBP arrived yet?

mac_man_luke
7th March 2008, 08:39 AM
Woke up to a nice surprise today... my MBP has now SHIPPED! :-)

Says expected delivery 13/3. Happy days. Fingers crossed all arrives okay, no dead pixels.

you will have a 99% chance of getting it monday :) (thats assuming it was shipped from aus, but still a chance from O/S)

snark
7th March 2008, 09:14 AM
Petronius - has your MBP arrived yet?
Nope - hasn't even shipped yet :(

I suppose that is one of the downsides of shopping at a low cost reselller like GetMac (http://store.getmac.com.au/) - when a new product is released, I'm guessing they're at the end of the queue.

tim
7th March 2008, 09:55 AM
I suppose that is one of the downsides of shopping at a low cost reselller like GetMac - when a new product is released, I'm guessing they're at the end of the queue.

Almost. I think I will be waiting longer to get mine from Hardly Normal. I think they live at the bottom of the food chain.....

(The joys of salary sacrifice and preferred suppliers)

jrad
7th March 2008, 10:08 AM
Well, great news... Apple said no, but I took it to Next Byte Bundall and they thought differently. They'll fix it under warranty, as they thought it was noticeable enough. Champion fellas :)

chocho
7th March 2008, 10:43 AM
what is the macbook refresh cycle these days, 3-4 months?
wonder if the base model will eventually get the 'superdrive', come on apple, get in line :)

tonyberinson
7th March 2008, 11:16 AM
Silly Question - To get a Education Discount - what do you need?

Amzy
7th March 2008, 11:29 AM
basically all you need to have is your student/staff id and that's about it. If you order from the online store then there is a chance that you may not be asked for any it whatsoever. My first purchase from the edu store led to a verification drive by apple though. All i had to do was fax them my ID and that's about it!

snark
7th March 2008, 12:47 PM
Almost. I think I will be waiting longer to get mine from Hardly Normal. I think they live at the bottom of the food chain.....

(The joys of salary sacrifice and preferred suppliers)

No, I think GetMac is lower even than HN on the food chain. I just chatted online with them, and they are now telling me "two weeks, due to supply problems from Apple".
However, their web page still says 'estimated delivery 4-7 days', and when I pointed out that some people might consider this misleading, they said it wasn't misleading, because the delay is not their fault.
Furthermore, they have already billed my card, which means I'll be paying for my computer before it arrives.

Dang it, I know I should have bought from a bricks and mortar shop. :mad:

Amzy
7th March 2008, 12:55 PM
No, I think GetMac is lower even than HN on the food chain. I just chatted online with them, and they are now telling me "two weeks, due to supply problems from Apple".
However, their web page still says 'estimated delivery 4-7 days', and when I pointed out that some people might consider this misleading, they said it wasn't misleading, because the delay is not their fault.
Furthermore, they have already billed my card, which means I'll be paying for my computer before it arrives.

Dang it, I know I should have bought from a bricks and mortar shop. :mad:

petronius, mate i have a similar issue with JB Hi-Fi, apparently they are at the bottom of the food chain aswell! A sales agent sold me the macbook Air saying i will get it in 5-7 working days and when i called them on the 8th day they said that their agent was crazy and no way can they get it to me before the 10th business day. I raised the issue with their manager and she said that she has spoken to apple and apple have said that they dont have any stock and not to expect anything untill mid-march.......i mean first they made a false claim and now they are not even willing to give an ETA ....and yes my CC was charged on day one!!!!!!
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

mac_man_luke
7th March 2008, 01:10 PM
imho if you want it fast buy from the applestore online 1# priority for apple

snark
7th March 2008, 02:33 PM
The last time I bought a Mac (a few years ago), it was from CompNow, and they told me at the time that there would be a delay (and it was a lo-o-o-o-ng delay too). I didn't like it, but they were honest and up front about it. Nor did they invoice me until it arrived and I picked it up.

I'm not really sure what irks me more about GetMac: the misleading estimate of delivery; or the billing. I could be wrong, but I'm betting they won't be billed by Apple until it ships.

Oh well, lesson learned.

Evad
7th March 2008, 03:01 PM
you will have a 99% chance of getting it monday :) (thats assuming it was shipped from aus, but still a chance from O/S)

Shipping from Shanghai so I won't hold my breath for Monday. It would be a nice surprise though as that would be 3 days earlier than the current estimate. :)

Katey
7th March 2008, 03:50 PM
My BTO from the Apple store is spose to be 7 days, it shipped within 24 hours from Shanghai, spose to arrive on tuesday but mondays a plublic holiday in Vic apparantly, so that might screw things up.

I really can't speak highly enough so far of the Apple store (I rang them and ordered) I had seen other online stores where about $50 cheaper but Apple straight up knocked $68 off the price without me even asking. (Definitly glad I rang them to make the order).

It's torture waiting for it though :( if I could have walked into a store and bought one I would have.:p

Evad
7th March 2008, 10:36 PM
Hope that TNT delivers it for you anyways on Monday Katey. Make sure to let us all know so we too are put out of our suspense.:)

I agree waiting is tough... though they say it builds character! hehe :p

EDIT: Looks like my new MBP could be on its way sooner than expected too. Cleared customs today - woot! It is in the country at least. ;)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/305/mbptrackingoc0.png

Evad
10th March 2008, 08:08 AM
you will have a 99% chance of getting it monday :) (thats assuming it was shipped from aus, but still a chance from O/S)

Okay Luke.. you win.. :)

TNT tracker is showing that my shiny new MBP is now in Brisbane and OUT FOR DELIVERY - sweeeeeet! I am so jumping at every truck noise I hear in the street. It should definitely arrive today.

macphwoar
10th March 2008, 08:28 AM
Okay Luke.. you win.. :)

TNT tracker is showing that my shiny new MBP is now in Brisbane and OUT FOR DELIVERY -

if you don't mind answering.. when did you order and what's the specs?

cuz i ordered mine via a store on the 3rd and mine's 2.5GHz (15") and glossy.

keep us posted. :D if i don't get mine today, i'll celebrate yours.. lol.

Evad
10th March 2008, 08:33 AM
15" base model (2.4ghz, 3MB cache)
Upgraded to 7200rpm HDD
Glossy screen

Ordered on 4/3. :)

kevin7
10th March 2008, 09:41 AM
i went to JB HIFI, Myer. both of them seem to hv no new macbook nor macbook pro... hvnt arrived australia yet??

but, the macbook air is so sweeeet! but my heart is slaved to macbook pro.. hehe

snark
10th March 2008, 09:57 AM
i went to JB HIFI, Myer. both of them seem to hv no new macbook nor macbook pro... hvnt arrived australia yet??
That is quite possibly true - I think most of the people who HAVE got theirs ordered them direct from the Apple online store, or bought them from "premium" apple resellers.

montfort
10th March 2008, 10:32 AM
I know that David Jones in the city (Sydney) have them in stock

spargo
10th March 2008, 10:38 AM
i went to JB HIFI, Myer. both of them seem to hv no new macbook nor macbook pro... hvnt arrived australia yet??

but, the macbook air is so sweeeet! but my heart is slaved to macbook pro.. hehe
back on page 1 I explained that Myer's and the like won't have theirs for a few weeks from release date, and that I had got mine from a Re-seller, and that other re-sellers had them on the way..

macuzer
10th March 2008, 10:42 AM
I ordered my new white MacBook 2.4ghz (2mb ram, 160 hd) for the Apple store at 11am last Wednesday and it was on my doorstep at 10.30am the next day. Just switched it on and it was all ready to go. Was able to get the free Nano also at the same time - only downside is I have to cut the label off the box of both the Mac and Nano to send in for my $199 rebate. Bit sad to have to wreck the nice laptop box! Has anyone received their rebate yet?

nicwithsticks
10th March 2008, 10:58 AM
That is quite possibly true - I think most of the people who HAVE got theirs ordered them direct from the Apple online store, or bought them from "premium" apple resellers.

I'm not sure this is entirely true. I have had mine (base model 2.4Ghz) for a week now and I bought it from Dick Smith Powerhouse. Are they a premium reseller?

By the way, they're a bloody awesome machine. You're all going to love them!

Evad
10th March 2008, 11:06 AM
I am just about to see how much I love it.. the spanking new MBP arrived on my doorstep at precisely 11:02AM. Thats one minute ago.. :D

Now to the unboxing...

snark
10th March 2008, 12:44 PM
I'm not sure this is entirely true. I have had mine (base model 2.4Ghz) for a week now and I bought it from Dick Smith Powerhouse. Are they a premium reseller?

No idea - I was only speculating. Perhaps some retailers received limited stock of some models.

pgseye
10th March 2008, 06:55 PM
Has anyone received a 2.6 15" yet?

I ordered via an independent reseller the day they were released (250 HDD/matte) and was told 1-3 weeks. That's OK (even though I'm a bit of an impatient bugger), but they tell me that there is absolutely no way to track where my computer is at (until Apple send out a shipping notice) and that all resellers order from the same place and subsequently no one is given preferred supply.

I would have thought you could determine where your supply was at in the delivery chain??

macphwoar
10th March 2008, 09:11 PM
I would have thought you could determine where your supply was at in the delivery chain??

I went in this afternoon and ask the store person to check my order status - 2.5GHz (15in), 250 GB, glossy..
she did and said it will get to Australia on the 14th (this Fri) and that I might have to wait till next Tuesday to get it in my hands.

I thought for a moment about asking for the tracking number so that i can track it myself .. but decided to just punish myself for this week.. :D otherwise i'll just be wasting bandwidth furiously refreshing webpages.. now and again. lol.
(do you think she would have given it to me if I had asked?)

digger1914
10th March 2008, 09:38 PM
Has anyone received a 2.6 15" yet?

I ordered via an independent reseller the day they were released (250 HDD/matte) and was told 1-3 weeks. That's OK (even though I'm a bit of an impatient bugger), but they tell me that there is absolutely no way to track where my computer is at (until Apple send out a shipping notice) and that all resellers order from the same place and subsequently no one is given preferred supply.

I would have thought you could determine where your supply was at in the delivery chain??

Yes, mine arrived last Tuesday! I ordered it on the Wednesday before (ie the day they were announced here). Was happy with the 6 day turn around, and even happier with the machine.

I moved up from the Rev 1 MBP with 2.16 chip, so this 2.6 is much faster!

pgseye
11th March 2008, 06:19 AM
I moved up from the Rev 1 MBP with 2.16 chip, so this 2.6 is much faster!

Well I'm excited to think how much difference there'll be from my 5 yr old 1 Ghz Tibook if that step up is noticeably faster.

mechcon
11th March 2008, 06:55 AM
my replacement arrives this week: from a 2.16GHz C2D w/ 3GB RAM, 160gb drive, and 128mb Radeon, TO a brand spanking new 2.4GHz w/ 4GB RAM, 200GB drive and 256mb Nvidia! can't ******* wait..

shorebuck
13th March 2008, 12:21 AM
Got mine today - was 2 weeks to the dot -all running smooth bar iCal sync probs but otherwise, meh! awesome!

Ignoramus
13th March 2008, 10:50 AM
Ordered mine last Friday. Base 15" MBP with 7200rpm HDD. Received shipment notification Monday evening which had a deliver by date of 13/03/08 but tracking information does not reveal anything new since Tuesday morning :(

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/ignoramus1979/tracking.jpg

Generally what would be the next stage when the status would be updated? When it clears customs? What are the chances of receiving it today? I'm in Sydney.

luztra
14th March 2008, 12:02 PM
i went to JB HIFI, Myer. both of them seem to hv no new macbook nor macbook pro... hvnt arrived australia yet??

I got my Macbook Pro from JB HiFi Myaree (WA) on 12th March (they got their stock on 11th March). Paid $2499 for the Macbook Pro and $200 for Office 2008.

spargo
14th March 2008, 12:04 PM
Just came across this article, linked from the apple.com news site: Macworld | Review: MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo/2.4GHz and 2.5GHz (http://www.macworld.com/article/132407/2008/03/macbookprocore2duo.html)

Good reading if you need any convincing - as someone who did buy one as an upgrade from a G4 PB, this reads pretty true.

jonnos
14th March 2008, 03:44 PM
macbook pro came in on time on tuesday but i wasnt home until today to open it up.
im posting this up on my pc... why? BECAUSE I GOT A DUD YELLOW TINT ON MY LCD. my gf got her too day before mine but also didnt get to open it till today. lucky for her she got a nice beautiful perfecto and much whiter and clear looking LCD. not only the yellow tint was annoying the damn shadows on windows didnt blend out nicely.. you could see where it ends >_<! called apple and they offered to replace mine i didnt even have to ask. :D getting picked up on tuesday and who know when ill get my replacement. hopefully ASAP. anyway i just wanted to vent because i am very sad right now.

jonnos
14th March 2008, 05:07 PM
they just sent me a confirmation email but it says..
Ships by:
30/04/2008

Delivers by:
02/05/2008

please tell me that just a placeholder or something?

mechcon
14th March 2008, 06:07 PM
Oh Snap! I got mine, just time machine restoring it from the imac now. keyboard functions at the top is all different! awesome :P fast rewind, play/pause, forward are f7, 8 and 9

Seon
14th March 2008, 06:31 PM
I got the new 17" MBP..... am loving it. To be honest, cant see a huge difference in performance from my 2.33GHz 15" MBP, but loving the extra screen res and drive space... 250GB (from 120) woohoo !

Katey
14th March 2008, 06:39 PM
My 15" bto from the apple store arrived a few days ago. My first mac and i'm loving it, had no issues with the screen or anything else, its so quiet I keep thinking it's off.

mechcon
15th March 2008, 12:12 AM
Yeah Seon, there'd be bugger-all performance boost from that range of mbp's to the current ones.. sometimes it doesn't pay to JUST have the latest/greatest folks :D

jonnos
15th March 2008, 01:30 AM
first timer mac here and dont plan on getting latest and greatest :D save ur money ppl :D ill prob update in 3-5yrs but now im waiting for damn replacement :(

snark
26th March 2008, 02:03 PM
Finally, at long last, my new MBP arrived this morning. I am resisting the temptation to unbox it at work, because I know if I do that, I won't get any work done for the rest of the day.

It feels like I'm a kid again, waking up early on Christmas day, but not being allowed to open my presents until the grown-ups are up too.:D

Evad
26th March 2008, 02:41 PM
Petronius that took forever! Glad you finally have it in hand.. I know you will enjoy it!

bowseruni
26th March 2008, 02:47 PM
with any luck i should see my 17" MBP tomorrow, i'm very impatient when it comes to waiting for new toys

jonnos
27th March 2008, 02:57 PM
weeee. perfect macbook pro replacement came in today. no bad lcd like last time :D:D:D

macphwoar
27th March 2008, 06:36 PM
weeee. perfect macbook pro replacement came in today. no bad lcd like last time :D:D:D

weeeee.. :D just in time for you to enjoy it during the week ends, aye? good for you.
by the way, if you happy with your screen and if it is glossy, you might want to consider applying a screen protector over it. I highly recommend EXiM. Do a search on ebay. you can get one for about $25. :)

Dakah3
3rd April 2008, 04:18 PM
Well finally done it after nearly 20 years of windows have made the switch to Mac.
Ordered my first Mac, a white Macbook 2.4ghz with the iWork package from the Apple store yesterday, they were able to price match the 10% off that JB hi fi are doing at the moment.
Many thanks to all the advice gained from Mactalk which convinced me to switch.
Looking forward to learning new operating system and hopefully will be just as good as my Ipod Touch which was initially got me interested in Apple products.
Now just to play the waiting game!:)

rrs
3rd April 2008, 05:08 PM
I bought my second mac a few weeks ago. My first is a Rev A iMac G5 that is still ticking along. My study has the iMac and my girlfriends oldish PC, which she stubbornly uses and keeps. That's been ok, because I run older games on it. I'd been planning on waiting for the next upgrade of the iMac to finally turf the G5 and PC. But after the new Penryn Macbooks came out...

I thought to myself... 'Gee, I really hate being in the study just to go on the net, or write, or whatever light computing.' Plus my girlfriend hates me disappearing for an hour or two. So I bit the bullet and bought the base model 2.1ghz MacBook.

:thumbup: Can't believe how much it's improved the way I do things. I run it on the highest battery saving settings and the thing hardly gets warm at all while I'm on the net, using iWork etc. That's been something that has kept me away from laptops in the past. The battery will (for what light work I do) last me 2 to 3 days with the Airport on. I think it's about 5 odd hours. The MacBook is perfect as my second Mac, leaving my iMac to do all the grunty processing of video etc. Although, my MacBook would be faster than the iMac, probably.

Totally rapt.

schwatted
3rd April 2008, 05:27 PM
Welcome to the world of Mac Dakah3, I know your going to have a great time discovering all the beautiful things Macs do which PC users maintain they can't. Enjoy your new mac when it arrives and you are in the right place for anything you need to find out all the MacTalk people are very helpful. I ordered my mbp & iPod touch online in March and it was at my door in 3 days from China & I live in Cairns so I was extremely pleased as I expected at least 7 working days for it to get here after ordering.

Lutze
9th April 2008, 06:57 PM
Powerbook G5 (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/08/ibm_595_water/) anyone?

Only kidding... but by god IBM have cranked up the cycles on their newer CPU...


*** Disclaimer - this is not a suggestion that their will be a PowerBook G5 or G6 for that matter*** It's just a technology comment.