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decryption
12th February 2008, 12:13 PM
Bahamut and I have noticed this difference in shadow highlighting thingy in 10.5.2's version of WebKit (the Safari rendering engine).

10.5.1
http://mactalk.com.au/decryption/1051_1.png

10.5.2
http://mactalk.com.au/decryption/1052_1.png

10.5.1
http://mactalk.com.au/decryption/1051_2.png

10.5.2
http://mactalk.com.au/decryption/1052_2.png

So it's not only you, it's just the way it is in 10.5.2. The MT code monkeys will fix it once they get some bananas I presume.

mechcon
12th February 2008, 12:27 PM
whoopsies, even the graphic update didn't fix it.. ah well :)

MrJesseRoss
12th February 2008, 12:37 PM
Oh wow, didn't even notice until you pointed it out.

uncyherb
12th February 2008, 12:38 PM
It actually looks like Apple's finally got this right.

according to your style sheets the text-shadow rules are set up with #ffffff 2px 2px 1px;

That means a 2px down and 2px across offset, and a 1px blur. Which is closer to what is displayed under 10.5.2 as opposed to 10.5.1 (and previous webkit versions) The previous display look would be what I'd expect from text-shadow: #ffffff 1px 1px 0px; or text-shadow: #ffffff 1px 1px 1px;

note: The 1px 1px offset doesn't work in the old version of webkit - it doesn't display a shadow even though in theory it should... so at the moment you can have it look right one way, or the other, but not for both.

GraphicDZNR
12th February 2008, 01:33 PM
I've modified the CSS, but with saft broken with the update there's no way to override... Does anyone know how to override stylesheets for particular sites without saft?

marc
12th February 2008, 01:39 PM
More detail here, including some test text in 10.5.1 and 10.5.2.
http://islayer.com/blog/?p=255

Lucky I hadn't updated the laptop to 10.5.2 yet, otherwise the tests would have be harder to do.

Currawong
12th February 2008, 02:14 PM
I fixed MacTalk's CSS.

uncyherb
12th February 2008, 02:49 PM
I fixed MacTalk's CSS.

You "fixed" it for 10.5.2 viewers... I'm not on that version of webkit which means that I no longer have the beautiful faux embossing created by the white text-shadow.

As I said above... it's an either-or situation. Pre 10.5.2 viewers will get no shadow from the new 1px 1px offset which is correct for 10.5.2, whereas 10.5.2 viewers get the wrong look from a 2px 2px offset which will look correct for previous webkit users.

El Guardo
12th February 2008, 03:18 PM
Gruber has linked through to iSlayer's blog posting on this topic.

Just wondering what the traffic was following the linkage as I've noticed an ever increasing number of sites crashing after being linked to by Daring Fireball. If could share some insight iSlayer that'd be great, be it in terms of percentages or effects rather than cold hard numbers.

Currawong
12th February 2008, 08:43 PM
You "fixed" it for 10.5.2 viewers... I'm not on that version of webkit which means that I no longer have the beautiful faux embossing created by the white text-shadow.

As I said above... it's an either-or situation. Pre 10.5.2 viewers will get no shadow from the new 1px 1px offset which is correct for 10.5.2, whereas 10.5.2 viewers get the wrong look from a 2px 2px offset which will look correct for previous webkit users.

True, but the lack of the shadow isn't critical. Having it look borked for most regular users is a less pleasant option.

mac_man_luke
12th February 2008, 08:50 PM
anyone finding safari beach balling a lot since 10.5.2?

uncyherb
13th February 2008, 04:51 PM
True, but the lack of the shadow isn't critical. Having it look borked for most regular users is a less pleasant option.

I totally agree... although I would be interested to know MacTalk's users breakdown by system. What % are on 10.5.x and what % are on 10.4.x ?

something2sea
13th February 2008, 05:40 PM
I totally agree... although I would be interested to know MacTalk's users breakdown by system. What % are on 10.5.x and what % are on 10.4.x ?

And what percentage are on iPhone / iTouch

marc
13th February 2008, 07:22 PM
True, but the lack of the shadow isn't critical. Having it look borked for most regular users is a less pleasant option.
Definitely.

Also, most 10.5 users will be 10.5.2 very soon.

mvjs
13th February 2008, 08:00 PM
TheBom (http://www.radocaj.com/thebom/) seems to be suffering some of these issues (the orange current temperature text)

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1360/picture1ul1.th.png (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1ul1.png)