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BiRDBRAiN
12th March 2005, 09:22 PM
Hi guys,

I've been waiting for a while and am currently shopping around for a new Mac laptop.

One concern I have, although I plan on only using it occassionally, is the performance of Virtual PC on an iBook vs Powerbook.

I know certain issues such as data bus speeds are different, but what are people's experience? Will an iBook with a truckload of RAM do it just as well as a powerbook?

designers_hub
12th March 2005, 09:54 PM
Virtual PC is very bad. Don't bother using it. I tried it on my G5 1.8GHZ and its still very crappy.

I tired out Microsoft RDC today and it was great! It's free to! (RDC = Remote Desktop Connection).

What it does is it allows you to remotely connect to a windows machine over the network or over the internet! It allows you to run all the software and actually allows more functions than Virtual PC.

Another great thing is that it seperated. I don't like the idea of mixing Mac and Windows together.

You should try that. The computer you connect to must be Windows Professional.

try it because its GREAT and pretty easy to connect to. It may be a bit tricky to get started since networks vary in struture. However, once its up you can access the windows machine anywhere with just the IP, Username and Password!.

Set up your mac:
http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2002..._pc.html?page=2 (http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2002/11/19/mac_pc.html?page=2)

Set up your PC:
http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_...ows-XP-Pro.html (http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Using-Remote-Desktop-Windows-XP-Pro.html)

Microsoft RDC:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts...tedesktopclient (http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=remotedesktopclient)
(Its free)

Most of the work is in the Host computer.

Hope this can get you away from virtual pc. its alot better and free.

Slow connections doens't matter, I have ease running with a 28.8kbps connection.

decryption
12th March 2005, 10:14 PM
I'm with designers_hub there, RDC is the way to go if you have access to a Windows machine.
However, if you really have your heart set on running VPC, get the fastest computer you can, because it will run like crap regardless :P

Byrd
12th March 2005, 10:38 PM
For a iBook clocked at the same speed of a Powerbook, there wouldn't be much difference in performance of VPC. VPC doesn't natively use the graphics chipset of the Mac (emulates some crappy 4MB PCI card IIRC), so graphics performance will be woeful for both machines :)

JB

iluvmymactoo
12th March 2005, 10:59 PM
It all depends what you need VPC for.

I installed VPC and Win2K Pro onto my partner's iBook the other day. He is using it for a travel agent software called "Galileo" and it runs amazingly well. He has 768mb of ram and I allocated 320mb of ram to VPC.

If you're thinking of using it for gaming then forget about it completely.

Most apps you think are only available for windows are in fact available for Mac (eg: Adobe, Office, Web Authoring, etc).

Just make sure that if you do use VPC to install an antivirus app on it. Your VPC is just as vulnerable as any regular pc's to viruses and spyware. I recommend this free antivirus software named Grisoft AV (http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/)

BiRDBRAiN
12th March 2005, 11:45 PM
Thanks for the quick replies :thumbup:

I really only need it for running MYOB Premier (not available on Mac) and MS Access.

I suppose I could run RDC on the server since noone is using it for that kind of thing, since it is only at one site at which I work.

But that answers my question, it wouldn't matter which (ibook or pb).

designers_hub
13th March 2005, 12:11 AM
Powerbook. Ibook - waste of time

suryo
13th March 2005, 06:04 AM
I believe MYOB AccountEdge is the Mac equivalent of MYOB Premier. If you could live with Filemaker Pro you'll find it's way better than Access.

hawker
13th March 2005, 09:15 AM
I have actually found that RDC runs very smooth on both my 800mhz and 1.33ghz G4's. And not just LAN when I am at work. But when I am at home and wish to access the server :)

BiRDBRAiN
13th March 2005, 10:09 AM
Filemaker isn't going to solve the problem of existing legacy applications developed with Access.

Accounting Edge is the same? Does it read MYOB Premier data files?

Ozi
13th March 2005, 11:11 AM
Just changed the topic title to make it more specific in the "New Posts" column. :) One of the new powerbooks is also a good investment at the moment, as new models have just been released, and the additional computing power will run VPC far better than an iBook.

suryo
13th March 2005, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by BiRDBRAiN@Mar 13 2005, 10:09 AM
Accounting Edge is the same? Does it read MYOB Premier data files?
What I meant to say was that the feature sets are the same. As far as AccountEdge being able to read Premier data files I'm not so sure. A new version of AccountEdge can't even open the data files created with the previous version, so I would have doubts as to whether it could open files created with Premier. You could download the trial version and check it out though.

Being the poorly designed train-wreck of an application that it is, you will most likely find that any upgrade, downgrade or crossgrade will probably require export-import treatment - but at least it does that well.

BiRDBRAiN
13th March 2005, 05:44 PM
You are probably right. Between version MYOB doesn't have great compatibility.

designers_hub
13th March 2005, 08:16 PM
How do you connect to your computer over the net anyways?

I know you just type in the IP, but i have a network:

Internet > Router > Static IP > Node

So how would i connect to that node?

something like this?
123.456.456.789/127.0.0.10 ????

joelight
13th March 2005, 10:44 PM
If you like open source software you could try this

http://darwine.opendarwin.org/