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29th March 2004, 03:19 PM
Lately a few members have posted interesting links of Apple prototypes, most of which are sold on eBay.

Does anyone own an Apple prototype machine (pics please!), or seen one in the flesh? I'm really interested in machines such as the Pippin, Paladin, weird transparent casings (Apple used these for prototype Color Classics and SEs). Even rare machines that didn't make it to Australia, such as the PB2400, PB550 or real oldies such as the Apple I or LISA. Share your experiences in this thread.

OS prototypes are also pretty interesting. Just before I found this page (http://home.san.rr.com/deans/prototypes.html) which outlines the development of the LISA UI - the progression of which doesn't look that disimilar from OS X today - it even used protected memory and you could bring up a command line! Why didn't the Mac OS begin with these features - did it just come down to trying to make the system as easy to use as possible?


29th March 2004, 03:32 PM
I've seen a Paladin in the flesh. Back in 1995, at the Epcot Center at DisneyWorld, on a holiday. We were at the Honeywell House of Innovations, and in the kitchen was something that looked a heck of a lot like a Paladin. I think it was, anyway, but IIRC it was wallmounted. Either way, it was cool. Unfortunately, we didn't get any pics, and at that time, i didn't know it was a proto, either, mainly because i was still a n00b to the Mac. :(

30th March 2004, 07:12 AM
Various Apple Employees in Oz have things such as clear-cased early Macs, and one I know has a PM 9700 DP 350 604e. I'll try and get some photos sometime of it, though I think there are some on Applefritter.

30th March 2004, 03:50 PM

I have a number of the machines mentioned as "interesting".

This includes an "evaluation" Pippin (platinum colour), also one of the many black Apple "set top boxes" from the USA, and a PowerBook 2400

As for old machines - have most of them including a Lisa 1 (and 2/0, 2/10 and Mac XL). No Apple 1 I'm afraid.

For (some bad) pictures see: http://jd.sjaa.com.au/orchard

Kind regards,


2nd April 2004, 07:37 PM
All good stuff - thanks for sharing :)

Currawong>> The PPC 9700 that you describe sounds like the prototype PEX machine - I looked for the link on Applefritter but it's down at present. Was the machine really called a 9700, and did it actually work? I recall reading something where the machine was scrapped early in development and the G3 was taken on instead.

jmd>> Did the Pippin ever have any games made for it? Have you any?

This prototype 6100, Piltdown Man (http://www.applefritter.com/?q=node/view/363) I found just before on AF - how cool would red/blue/yellow PCBs be!


3rd April 2004, 05:40 AM
Hi all,

Yes - the Pippin did have some games made (they're available in Japan mostly). I don't have any for mine - but I do have the Bandia TV word processor, email and web app. There is also a modified MacOS you can run on it.

I have two Pippins (a production and an evaluation model). The eval model comes with a floppy disk drive and a SCSI cable hanging out the back for a hard drive (I've not tried it as yet).

I forgot to mention a couple of other non-Australian released Macs in my collection:

* The G3 All-in-one ("Ghost tooth")
* MacTV
* PM8200 (a 7200 in a tower case)

While the PM4400's are in abundance in the US, they are just too heavy to consider shipping these days.

Kind regards,


3rd April 2004, 07:20 AM
The PowerMac 9700 was fully working. A person I know at Apple was using one, even with Mac OS X for quite some time. It apparently blows away the early G3's.

10th May 2004, 05:59 PM
Dragging up this old thread, I thought people might be interested in this link I swiped from the 68KMLA (Appletalk's very own danamania posted it :D), here (http://www.gete.net/book/dossiers/prototypes/).

There are quite a few machines I haven't seen before - a Powerbook with an early wireless network addon, and the Bookcase SE - which apparently isn't a prototype, but a kit bought from Japan which converted a Powerbook ??? to a desktop TAM-like machine. I can't find much more on this.

Anyhow, the site is in French, but you'll understand what they're talking about :)


14th May 2004, 12:31 PM
Speaking of prototypes I saw this this morning

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=4129459598 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51046&item=4129459598)

and http://www.llarian.net/~nivfreak/DuoDockII/

I't s a Prototype Duo Dock

14th May 2004, 04:49 PM
Nice. :)

21st May 2004, 09:48 PM
We need more completely see-through Macs I say - they look just too good!

Check out this baby: