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Dante Kyar
16th October 2007, 10:35 PM
US IS UP!!!! OCT 26th

so is Aussie online store (http://store.apple.com/133-622/WebObjects/australiastore)

ollielowe
16th October 2007, 10:35 PM
Yay back up! time to investigate...

Rasta
16th October 2007, 10:35 PM
Pre order Leopard!! :)

26th like everyone thought!

SyncMan
16th October 2007, 10:36 PM
Someone has something from a news wire over in WP...

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=841625&p=3#r46

Huy
16th October 2007, 10:36 PM
Store up.

Leopard.

W9cae
16th October 2007, 10:36 PM
time in nyc is 8:35 chicago 7:35 cupertino 5:35

mjankor
16th October 2007, 10:36 PM
Wheee preorder for 26th!!!

ollielowe
16th October 2007, 10:37 PM
Wow. $160.

How much was Tiger when it released?

macsyd
16th October 2007, 10:37 PM
$158, bargain! Almost an exact conversion of US$129 + GST

Galumay
16th October 2007, 10:37 PM
better than expected price!

gilligan911
16th October 2007, 10:37 PM
Only $158 AUD!!!

iSlayer
16th October 2007, 10:37 PM
and yay for price drop

sleek881
16th October 2007, 10:37 PM
26/10 Just as everyone expected

Huy
16th October 2007, 10:38 PM
Damn.

$158 RRP (down from $199)
$145 EDU (up from $129).

andrew.wilson
16th October 2007, 10:38 PM
The beast is unleashed....looks like we are right! Oct 26 delivery

$158 normal

$145 edu! Very Nice! :D

Fires up credit card...

Jordan M
16th October 2007, 10:38 PM
I knew it would be worth staying up extra half hour :P

Love the new box design

http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/2041/2735/store.apple.com/Catalog/Australia/Images/leopard_box_125.jpg

Goodbye
16th October 2007, 10:39 PM
Pfft, students only get $13 off! $158 normal, $145 students...

Dante Kyar
16th October 2007, 10:39 PM
$158 for single user licence
$249 for family

Edu:
$145

Linux_insidev2
16th October 2007, 10:39 PM
aaaaand


Preordered!

zbaron
16th October 2007, 10:39 PM
Ordered. But i'd love to see some of their network and server stats right now!

The down time was probably getting the 1000 or so new servers added to the web farm. :D

gmask1
16th October 2007, 10:40 PM
Family Pack preordered :D

dev_enter
16th October 2007, 10:41 PM
Family Pack Ordered. :)

Dante Kyar
16th October 2007, 10:41 PM
New info (or look anyway) on the mac osx site

http://www.apple.com/macosx/

all 300+ featues

on this page (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html)

Galumay
16th October 2007, 10:42 PM
i will get mine from Frequency - i would rather have it on the day of release!

stefanlod
16th October 2007, 10:42 PM
They don't talk about the family pack on the education page, but is it still there?

wilco440
16th October 2007, 10:43 PM
It's official. October 26....

jerrah
16th October 2007, 10:43 PM
Mmmmac Pro looks the same, but you can get Leopard with it.

ollielowe
16th October 2007, 10:43 PM
LOL @ the countdown!

mivory
16th October 2007, 10:43 PM
$145 edu pricing. Oops. I just noticed this was already mentioned.
Beware- specs. say 9gb of space required to install! My iBook doesn't have a spare 9gb! Eek. Not for me then I suppose...

Rasta
16th October 2007, 10:43 PM
i will get mine from Frequency - i would rather have it on the day of release!

It's DELIVERED on the day of release, not sent to you.. so you get it on the day of release if you preoder or not...

W9cae
16th October 2007, 10:43 PM
Now the question will leopard brick a hacked iPhone ? Seems you dont get FrontRow or the PhotoBooth on the G4 mini. Might just stick with my hacked Tiger. Price drop is nice.

mjankor
16th October 2007, 10:44 PM
i will get mine from Frequency - i would rather have it on the day of release!

But you can. It's being delivered on the 26th.

Family pack ordered.

Rasta
16th October 2007, 10:44 PM
No Powerbook G5... some people will be disappointed.. :)

SyncMan
16th October 2007, 10:45 PM
I see the min specs are now set...

Leopard requires a minimum of 512MB of RAM and is designed to
run on any Macintosh(R) computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5 or G4 (867 Mhz
or faster) processor.

Huy
16th October 2007, 10:46 PM
Price increase for students though...

Goodbye
16th October 2007, 10:47 PM
The US Apple site is reporting the up-to-date program is good for products purchased on or after October 1. $9.95USD, the Aussie OS X page is still not updated and probably won't be till tomorrow.

Rasta
16th October 2007, 10:47 PM
I see the min specs are now set...

Leopard requires a minimum of 512MB of RAM and is designed to
run on any Macintosh(R) computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5 or G4 (867 Mhz
or faster) processor.

Yeah... so now I have all the ammo I need to convince the boss that I need a new iMac and MacBook :)

She's getting a new MacBook too... so it any retailer is keen to have three sales on one go... PM me! :)

Galumay
16th October 2007, 10:48 PM
But you can. It's being delivered on the 26th.

Family pack ordered.

i suspect a lot of you pre-ordering will be disappointed when it doesnt arrive on the 26th!

Rasta
16th October 2007, 10:49 PM
i suspect a lot of you pre-ordering will be disappointed when it doesnt arrive on the 26th!

Why won't be it? They say that you might have a delay if you live outside of the metro area.. which is understandable...

I would think they'll get it right and on time to those they can...

Goodbye
16th October 2007, 10:49 PM
Details of the US up to date program are here:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/

Products purchased on or after October 1 qualify!

andrew.wilson
16th October 2007, 10:50 PM
Now the question will leopard brick a hacked iPhone ? Seems you dont get FrontRow or the PhotoBooth on the G4 mini. Might just stick with my hacked Tiger. Price drop is nice.

I am doubting that. There will be a hack found for that anyway...rolling back iTunes or something. I have no doubt that 1.1.1 will be hacked by then as well :thumbup:

mac_man_luke
16th October 2007, 10:50 PM
i will get mine from Frequency - i would rather have it on the day of release!

you will get it quicker online unless you live in a remote location

Every other time it has arrived as promised

teamshaw
16th October 2007, 10:51 PM
Ordered, to be delivered at work. I wonder if my boss will mind me bringing my laptop in that day to install it.

jerrah
16th October 2007, 10:52 PM
Ruby on Rails Work in a developer's dreamland. Leopard is the perfect platform for Ruby on Rails development, with Rails, Mongrel, and Capistrano built in.

cosmichobo
16th October 2007, 10:54 PM
Now the question will leopard brick a hacked iPhone ? Seems you dont get FrontRow or the PhotoBooth on the G4 mini. Might just stick with my hacked Tiger. Price drop is nice.

Excuse my ignorance... Does the Mac Mini only have a "cut down" OS??

[MREVO8]
16th October 2007, 10:54 PM
Is it sad that I ordered my copy on my iPod touch from bed? LOL

lavo
16th October 2007, 10:55 PM
$145 edu pricing. Oops. I just noticed this was already mentioned.
Beware- specs. say 9gb of space required to install! My iBook doesn't have a spare 9gb! Eek. Not for me then I suppose...

Time to get that 750gb drive installed in the iMac.......I have about 4 gig left in my standard 250!

Nice price :)

mac_man_luke
16th October 2007, 10:56 PM
ordered :)

Dante Kyar
16th October 2007, 10:56 PM
Excuse my ignorance... Does the Mac Mini only have a "cut down" OS??

no full os, just cut down hardware.

Galumay
16th October 2007, 10:57 PM
you will get it quicker online unless you live in a remote location

Every other time it has arrived as promised

ok, i stand corrected. i remembered differently.

(...and as it would take at least a week to get to me by snailmail i will get it thru Frequency.)

decryption
16th October 2007, 10:57 PM
Will resellers have stock on the 26th? I.E, they get it On the night of the 25th, then sell at midnight on the 26th?

W9cae
16th October 2007, 10:58 PM
No the mini runs the full OS just the G4 mini dont have the IR receiver & core animation. But its never stopped me hacking stuff to make FrontRow & PhotoBooth & iMovie 08 to work.

iSlayer
16th October 2007, 10:59 PM
Will resellers have stock on the 26th? I.E, they get it On the night of the 25th, then sell at midnight on the 26th?

They should. If it works the same as usual they will start selling it at 6pm or so

Dante Kyar
16th October 2007, 10:59 PM
so now that the 300+ features are revealed, can the podcast people who had the developers version please explain some of the cooler and more useful features they previously couldnt explain due to NDA..

decryption
16th October 2007, 10:59 PM
They should. If it works the same as usual they will start selling it at 6pm

6pm 25th, or 26th?


so now that the 300+ features are revealed, can the podcast people who had the developers version please explain some of the cooler and more useful features they previously couldnt explain due to NDA..

Yes, yes we will :D

iSlayer
16th October 2007, 11:00 PM
6pm 25th, or 26th?

26th.

Galumay
16th October 2007, 11:00 PM
Will resellers have stock on the 26th? I.E, they get it On the night of the 25th, then sell at midnight on the 26th?

that was my memory of how it worked in the past .

Rasta
16th October 2007, 11:01 PM
26th.

6pm... the night of the 26th? so you get it sooner if you pre-order then??

W9cae
16th October 2007, 11:01 PM
Decryption you gona throw a Leopard party ?

Dante Kyar
16th October 2007, 11:02 PM
Yes, yes we will :D

i call emergency leopard podcast :p

andrew.wilson
16th October 2007, 11:02 PM
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html

Wooo!

Did anyone see Engadgets ignorant comment about Apple not providing an upgrade version...I mean come on...the pricing for the FULL version of Leopard still shits over the price of the BASIC UPGRADE version of Vista :rolleyes: Windows friggtards :rolleyes:

iSlayer
16th October 2007, 11:04 PM
6pm... the night of the 26th? so you get it sooner if you pre-order then??

thats how it worked with 10.4

black_nail
16th October 2007, 11:05 PM
super exciting! and ABOUT TIME!!!

well... this place will be packed out busy tonight i assume.. getter get comfortable!

congrats to everyone

TJ

Rasta
16th October 2007, 11:05 PM
thats how it worked with 10.4

Perfect.. I'm away until the night of the 26th, so I can just get back to Brisvegas, swoop past a re-seller that night and get a copy... I HOPE! :)

decryption
16th October 2007, 11:06 PM
Decryption you gona throw a Leopard party ?

Hmm, Leopard install-fest sounds awesome.

Bring your copy of Leopard and have at it.
Let me think about it, I've got 9 days to get something together, haha

SilverJ
16th October 2007, 11:07 PM
Does anyone know because I only got my MBP a month ago whether there is any upgrade price for people who bought macs recently?
Although, if not I am happy with the $158 price but still :-)
Guess we are seeing the benefits of the high valued Australian $ now yay!

iSlayer
16th October 2007, 11:09 PM
Does anyone know because I only got my MBP a month ago whether there is any upgrade price for people who bought macs recently?!

Only if you bought on/after the 1st of october

spargo
16th October 2007, 11:10 PM
I've got a lot of cleaning up to do before then. Plus sorting out my external drive ready for the Time Machine.

Hope the PowerBook will do ok.

W9cae
16th October 2007, 11:10 PM
I am waiting to see a post "can I install Leopard on my iPhone?"

jerrah
16th October 2007, 11:12 PM
ignorant comment about Apple not providing an upgrade version...I mean come on...Every version of MacOS is an upgrade. You can't buy a Mac without it! :)

silverdreamer
16th October 2007, 11:17 PM
Pre ordered! Wake me up on the 26th.

Kai
16th October 2007, 11:24 PM
somebody make a countdown widget NOW

thanks

sen8or
16th October 2007, 11:24 PM
Does anyone know if apple does bundles for a little discount if you want to get leopard and ilife 08 together at the same time?

thanks

yinyang
16th October 2007, 11:27 PM
No Powerbook G5... some people will be disappointed.. :)

i'm disappointed ;)

but the price is much better than what tiger was - hooray for the stronger AU $

now i wonder what little freebies they're giving out with Leopard - I still have the little flashlights from Tiger!

Comet
16th October 2007, 11:28 PM
Just pre-ordered mine. Was going to get it from Japan and have my parents bring it over, but with AU$158 price, its about the same :) Time to wait for that 1TB HD that I bought off Krazy1.

Bart Smastard
16th October 2007, 11:28 PM
You know what? I'm somewhat saddened that the rumour mills got another Apple announcement correct.

I remember how blown away everyone was when the Mac mini came out. Sure there were some rumours around but no-one quite expected something so small and cute.

Compare that to the recent iMac update, where photos of the new keyboards were floating around about a month before and everyone knew the iMacs would be brushed aluminium and only available in 20" and 24".

There seems to more moles in Apple than ever. Steve needs to get them out into the open and do some major culling.

Nevertheless, as tonight's activity on MacTalk has confirmed, there's still a lot of excitement generated whenever Apple shut down their web sites. So who am I to complain :confused:

sideshow
16th October 2007, 11:29 PM
Is there a family pack with edu pricing? Can't seem to locate it...

iSlayer
16th October 2007, 11:34 PM
Does anyone know if apple does bundles for a little discount if you want to get leopard and ilife 08 together at the same time?

Apple are not big on things like that. Try your local reseller.

andrew.wilson
16th October 2007, 11:36 PM
Us fanboys who are procrastinating about uni assignments need something to do!

Ordered mine :D

The Fluffy Duck
16th October 2007, 11:39 PM
interesting that dvd player requires such a beefy processor. Also that frontrow requires a BUILT IN ir reciever. Is that apple being evil to third party developers or could a usb one work just as well ?

ninja
16th October 2007, 11:42 PM
Fantastic news! Until it was confirmed i was still going to sweat on it being released sometime soon..

Just preordered my copy. Didnt think twice for a split second. Great price too!

ninja
16th October 2007, 11:45 PM
somebody make a countdown widget NOW

thanks

Heres your countdown widget http://www.apple.com/

:)

jeloz
16th October 2007, 11:49 PM
Wow. $160.

How much was Tiger when it released?

$229 i think

Jeloz

OziMac
16th October 2007, 11:54 PM
My internet has gone crazy slow so I can't check if someone else has already got this, but it appears that Australian up-to-date (http://www.apple.com/au/macosx/uptodate/) purchases apply from October 1 too, for only $12.95 for a single licence.

Nice!

aeon
17th October 2007, 12:00 AM
Awesome news that we've got a price drop - though I'm tossing up whether to get an individual license, or get the family pack (sister & dad have macs too).

Geoff3DMN
17th October 2007, 12:02 AM
Pre ordered Leopard family pack, and ordered a copy of iLife 08 family pack as well :)

I'm rural so I may not get it on the 26th *sigh*.

marc
17th October 2007, 12:04 AM
Great news! Can't wait to see the GM as an ADC download soon.


;376326']Is it sad that I ordered my copy on my iPod touch from bed? LOL
Not at all.

MobileSafari FTW! :thumbup:

Johnny Appleseed
17th October 2007, 12:05 AM
You know what? I'm somewhat saddened that the rumour mills got another Apple announcement correct.

C'mon, it's just a date! We knew it was gonna be sometime in the next couple of weeks.

marc
17th October 2007, 12:10 AM
We knew it was gonna be sometime in the next couple of weeks.
We also knew it was going to be a Friday and in October. And probably the last Friday in October.

Bit of a no brainer.

jdub
17th October 2007, 12:18 AM
Am I the only one that thinks Leopard is just so-so? Or was I wrongly anticipating a revolutionary new OS?

I guess if I view it as just an overhaul of Tiger with a couple of new features then I should be satisfied.

iTalk
17th October 2007, 12:39 AM
Am I the only one that thinks Leopard is just so-so? Or was I wrongly anticipating a revolutionary new OS?

I guess if I view it as just an overhaul of Tiger with a couple of new features then I should be satisfied.

I've been using it for a while. The only noticeable improvement is its networking capabilities and file sharing. Spotlight search has been improved a little ( by cutting the search capabilities for all documents in your library/system folders ). That's all what concerns me :)

Dante Kyar
17th October 2007, 01:24 AM
yeah im pretty happy about the time machine aspect of it, the spaces (just realised i could have used this the other day) and the communication with other macs on the network.

The quicklook, and coverflow (a bit of a joke imo), the glossy dock (dont get me started on why this shouldnt be called a feature), and the stacks dont really do much for me. I have an internet folder, i have it in my documents, with a link next to my trash-can and safari downloads files there. Stacks doesnt seem that useful.

Just my quick rant.

andrew.wilson
17th October 2007, 01:37 AM
This is the current state of my desktop: :p

http://myskitch.com/andrew.wilson/dock-20071017-013445.jpg

Most of that is either uni stuff or downloads...being able to sort them neatly into stacks with a 'currently working on' stack is great. Seperately my computer into spaces where I can go and have less distractions will be great as well.

The new iChat also looks good. Quicklook will be handy for movies I think, and pictures. Just stuff I wanna quickly browse without waiting ages for the program to open! The icons have also been refined...this has been the one thing I have always missed from windows... a proper thumbnail view!

Leopard will be great :thumbup:

Rayd
17th October 2007, 02:03 AM
Am I the only one that thinks Leopard is just so-so? Or was I wrongly anticipating a revolutionary new OS?

I guess if I view it as just an overhaul of Tiger with a couple of new features then I should be satisfied.

yeah its just you :D

peteryan7hao
17th October 2007, 04:16 AM
I had a look at the "what's in the box", I didn't see iLife08 at all!!!! or iWork 08......Apple excluded them and dropped the price?

SyncMan
17th October 2007, 04:30 AM
I had a look at the "what's in the box", I didn't see iLife08 at all!!!! or iWork 08......Apple excluded them and dropped the price?

They never included them with Mac OSX.

It goes like this...

Your Mac comes with a version of Mac OSX and iLife, if you want a newer version you buy it, or wait and buy a new Mac with it. (Or buy a new Mac that has a cheap up-to-date window for one.)

Regards iWorks in general that does not come at all free, but sometimes Apple or a Reseller may included it in a package, but I am not sure if any are doing that at this time.

gehenna
17th October 2007, 06:12 AM
ordered and paid for a family pack :)

aswitcher
17th October 2007, 06:14 AM
Do we really think Apple Australia will delivery on the Friday? I am skeptical after the lag I had ordering the tough through them.

halledise
17th October 2007, 06:34 AM
This is the current state of my desktop: :p

http://myskitch.com/andrew.wilson/dock-20071017-013445.jpg

Most of that is either uni stuff or downloads...being able to sort them neatly into stacks with a 'currently working on' stack is great. Seperately my computer into spaces where I can go and have less distractions will be great as well.

The new iChat also looks good. Quicklook will be handy for movies I think, and pictures. Just stuff I wanna quickly browse without waiting ages for the program to open! The icons have also been refined...this has been the one thing I have always missed from windows... a proper thumbnail view!

Leopard will be great :thumbup:

surely a simple change to the view options will reduce your d/t clutter - label position right, text size either 12 or 13 point - perhaps even the creation of a single folder named 'current' (or similar) into which goes all your files with a suitable layout and background once you open it.

I'm all for simple clean desktops - which Leopard as you suggest will provide.

my 20 cents worth:D

step_andy
17th October 2007, 06:35 AM
$158 for single user licence
$249 for family

Edu:
$145

How much for Pro or Ultimate version?
;)

Prices are very cheap compared t Wintel family

iSlayer
17th October 2007, 06:39 AM
Do we really think Apple Australia will delivery on the Friday? I am skeptical after the lag I had ordering the tough through them.

they delivered them friday for 10.4....

SyncMan
17th October 2007, 07:01 AM
Is Streetwise having a launch party?

Rasta
17th October 2007, 07:07 AM
Is there a family pack with edu pricing? Can't seem to locate it...

There isn't one.

andrew.wilson
17th October 2007, 07:17 AM
surely a simple change to the view options will reduce your d/t clutter - label position right, text size either 12 or 13 point - perhaps even the creation of a single folder named 'current' (or similar) into which goes all your files with a suitable layout and background once you open it.

I'm all for simple clean desktops - which Leopard as you suggest will provide.

my 20 cents worth:D

I thought about that, but for some reason I hate launching the finder. I also find it easier to save to and access the files on the desktop...dont mind me...I'm weird :p

Goodbye
17th October 2007, 07:31 AM
The details of the up-to-date program for Australia have been released.

$12.95, which is excellent. Qualifying machines had to be purchased on or after October 1, and the program closes on December 29.

http://www.apple.com/au/macosx/uptodate/

Rasta
17th October 2007, 07:38 AM
This is the current state of my desktop: :p


Maybe you don't want to show your desktop with all those new releases on there, plus one a-X-X-o that might draw some attention to your hobbies! :p

bel.plews
17th October 2007, 08:01 AM
Just pre-ordered mine from Apple Store for $130 buckeroos!!!! :D
Got to love Telstra staff discounts .... :cool:

Arkhum_Eramak
17th October 2007, 08:19 AM
Man my girlfriend is gonna be unhappy. Her iBook G4 800MHz wont run Leopard, but the 867MHz TiBook she passed up will...she kept the iBook because it was more advanced (onboard USB 2 and Airport Extreme) and now she's gotten burned by that! Ouch! Why couldn't the floor have been 800MHz? Does the 67MHz make all that much of a difference? *sigh*

mac_man_luke
17th October 2007, 08:26 AM
might still work..just not recommended

Galumay
17th October 2007, 08:39 AM
Just pre-ordered mine from Apple Store for $130 buckeroos!!!! :D
Got to love Telstra staff discounts .... :cool:

well there would need to be some compensation for working with tel$tra!!

Galumay
17th October 2007, 08:41 AM
Maybe you don't want to show your desktop with all those new releases on there, plus one a-X-X-o that might draw some attention to your hobbies! :p

not to mention the excel gardening file!!

LCGuy
17th October 2007, 08:43 AM
How much for Pro or Ultimate version?
;)

Prices are very cheap compared t Wintel family

To quote Steve Jobs...

"Our Home Basic version starts out at $129. Then we have our Premium Home version, which is also $129. After that, we have our Business version, which is also $129, followed by our Enterprise version, which is also $129. Then we have the ULTIMATE version, which has EVERYTHING thrown in, which is also.......$129. So i think most people will go for the ultimate version"

Anyway, i'll be getting Leopard, hell yes I will. Brand new MacBook. Gonna be my first brand new Mac in 10 years :D

halledise
17th October 2007, 08:54 AM
How much for Pro or Ultimate version?
;)

Prices are very cheap compared t Wintel family

to quote Apple's press release:
“Leopard, the sixth major release of Mac OS X, is the best upgrade we’ve ever released,” said Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO.
“And everyone gets the ‘Ultimate’ version, packed with all the new innovative features, for just A$158 (recommended retail price inc GST).”

Leopard requires a minimum of 512MB of RAM and is designed to run on any Macintosh computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5 or G4 (867 Mhz or faster) processor. Full system requirements can be found at www.apple.com.au/macosx/techspecs.

jdub
17th October 2007, 08:57 AM
yeah its just you :D

Don't worry I'll get sucked in to buying it.

tempestas
17th October 2007, 09:02 AM
Does anyone know if apple does bundles for a little discount if you want to get leopard and ilife 08 together at the same time?

thanks

They did for Tiger with iLife 05 and iWork 05. It was a couple of month's after Tiger's launch though.

FineWine
17th October 2007, 09:17 AM
Is apple Australia throwing a launch show and tell party??

vargz
17th October 2007, 09:22 AM
I can't believe it is landing next Friday.

Now should I order with an iPod touch? That could make for a busy weekend ;)

coljac
17th October 2007, 09:29 AM
"me too"

Ordered a family pack. The price is a nice surprise - the weak USD is a boon for all of us here, although personally it's dreadful for my business. I'll take solace in Leopard next Friday...

feeze
17th October 2007, 09:30 AM
Man my girlfriend is gonna be unhappy. Her iBook G4 800MHz wont run Leopard, but the 867MHz TiBook she passed up will...she kept the iBook because it was more advanced (onboard USB 2 and Airport Extreme) and now she's gotten burned by that! Ouch! Why couldn't the floor have been 800MHz? Does the 67MHz make all that much of a difference? *sigh*

My guess is that are other hardware factors, such as GPU, and that the minimum model Mac that fits the specs just happens to have a 867 Mhz CPU. From a marketing point of view, the CPU speed is the easiest metric to judge compatibility, especially since the Mac has a finite range of configurations.

chrism238
17th October 2007, 09:42 AM
Yah! Leopard includes a grammar checker!
Hopefully no more misplaced apostrophes on MacTalk's front page ;)

mechcon
17th October 2007, 09:51 AM
is it me, or is coreaudio ignored?

iTrooper
17th October 2007, 09:51 AM
My guess is that are other hardware factors, such as GPU, and that the minimum model Mac that fits the specs just happens to have a 867 Mhz CPU. From a marketing point of view, the CPU speed is the easiest metric to judge compatibility, especially since the Mac has a finite range of configurations.

I guess the best thing to do Feeze is to wait till it's out, and wait to see if someone attempts to instal it onto a 800mhz machine with success or not.

My GF has a iBook 800mhz as well, but she has 1,128megs of ram on hers. Although the hard drive might be a bit cramped if/when/if even possible 10.5 is installed.

I've got a 1.33ghz iBook with 1.5gigs ram, so I should be able to install it with little issue.

But I think I'll wait and see how everyone else goes with their copies before I go running off to any stores and grabbing a copy of 10.5

I really do hope someone attempts to install it on a machine below 867mhz so we can all find out of it's possible to run it.

ninja
17th October 2007, 10:15 AM
To quote Steve Jobs...

"Our Home Basic version starts out at $129. Then we have our Premium Home version, which is also $129. After that, we have our Business version, which is also $129, followed by our Enterprise version, which is also $129. Then we have the ULTIMATE version, which has EVERYTHING thrown in, which is also.......$129. So i think most people will go for the ultimate version"

Anyway, i'll be getting Leopard, hell yes I will. Brand new MacBook. Gonna be my first brand new Mac in 10 years :D

LOL

I laugh at that quote every time
I just read it out to my gf... Poor thing has heard it enough already but not me

andrew.wilson
17th October 2007, 10:30 AM
not to mention the excel gardening file!!

Thats all for the uni assignment I am working on at the moment...yawn :(

and as for my XX stuff...well :p

Tassiecelt
17th October 2007, 11:11 AM
I'm planning to buy a macbook on the 26th, the only day I can get to the mac shop. I wonder what my chances of getting Leopard with it are?

Tell me, any problem running Tiger on an iMac and Leopard on a macbook (both on network)?
Is it essential to have the same version on both?

iTrooper
17th October 2007, 11:14 AM
I think your chances are pretty slim, I mean realistically, why would they have a MACHINE with a copy of 10.5 sitting there on the 26th? They'd need to prepare those machines in advance of 26th and stock up the shop.

I can see the next few weeks after having the possibility of 10.5 on them.

andrew.wilson
17th October 2007, 11:21 AM
Anyone else see the Engadget poll of the OS of 2007? So far it has Leopard flogging Vista and XP put together! Engadget isnt your typical fan boy site either :D

http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/16/poll-os-war-2007/#poll4300

marc
17th October 2007, 11:52 AM
is it me, or is coreaudio ignored?
In what way?

CoreAudio, CoreMIDI and Audio Units are pretty mature and stable now.

Atomac
17th October 2007, 01:29 PM
Is there a family pack with edu pricing? Can't seem to locate it...

No, there isn't.

Atomac
17th October 2007, 01:34 PM
I ordered my copy last night from the online store. I decided not to buy a family pack this time. Very impressed with the pricing. I mean, what a bargain! Compare that to Vista!

Rodney9
17th October 2007, 02:19 PM
Will software like PS Elements, Toast and others that work with Tiger still work with Leopard ?

AnthoMac
17th October 2007, 02:37 PM
Family discount is so cheap! I think I will preorder from Frequency as they're offering it at a mere $229 - that's cheaper than buying two OSes separately and since Im planning to upgrade3 machines that would be completely worth it.
Anyone thinking of going to any launch parties?

forgie
17th October 2007, 03:20 PM
The bastards virtually culled the edu discount. Grrrr...

Sambo
17th October 2007, 03:58 PM
Yeah stacks looks very useful. My desktop looks similar to andrew.wilson, but it's 23" of it!

stefanlod
17th October 2007, 04:26 PM
What happened to the whole hype about resolution independence? Also, does Family Pack come in education prices?

adriel
17th October 2007, 04:31 PM
What happened to the whole hype about resolution independence? Also, does Family Pack come in education prices?

Yea what did happen to the resolution independence, I was looking forward to that.

I also will be buying Leopard the second that it is out.

I made this widget for my self but thought i'd share it if anyone else wants it, it just counts down to when Leopard is released. You can get it from: http://www.needmacsupport.com/news/news.html

Deadbone
17th October 2007, 04:43 PM
Re: up-to-date program

I got my new Imac on Friday 28th September. Friday before the Labour Day long weekend.
Monday 1st October (the cut off) was a public holiday in NSW & ACT.

I'm gonna give it a go. Please Apple, Please!!! Fingers crossed...:(

feeze
17th October 2007, 04:46 PM
What happened to the whole hype about resolution independence?

I think that was just that, hype and speculation. I still think it will be a while until large resolution displays become common enough that resolution independence becomes a necessity.


Also, does Family Pack come in education prices?

No.

Andrew T Chadwick
17th October 2007, 04:47 PM
I'm there with bells on.

marc
17th October 2007, 04:49 PM
What happened to the whole hype about resolution independence?
It's still there.

It's in 10.4 a little bit already. A lot of apps are already res independent, like iStat menus (and Coda I believe).

Quamen
17th October 2007, 05:04 PM
Yea what did happen to the resolution independence, I was looking forward to that.[/url]

As noted above it's still there. It's just not very important for consumers right now. I will only become an issue once larger monitors with a higher pixel density start being used, and then only for developers who haven't made the transition.

warren21
17th October 2007, 06:58 PM
Pre-order through work. $130.00 :)

macsyd
17th October 2007, 07:26 PM
$139 preorder through Frequency and will pick up at the launch party. What have I become, attending a launch party for computer software on a Friday night?!

davechan
17th October 2007, 07:27 PM
Okay this is crap, I fly out to London at 3pm WST on the 26th!!! Why is there a 6pm embargo?

Yes, I *could* buy Leopard in London, but at STG85, that converts to AUD$194. Gipped.

Rasta
17th October 2007, 07:27 PM
$139 preorder through Frequency and will pick up at the launch party. What have I become, attending a launch party for computer software on a Friday night?!

You know what you've become.. you just don't want to admit it! :P

chrism238
17th October 2007, 07:41 PM
Pre-order through work. $130.00 :)Hmmm, work provides Apple hardware and software for free :):)

dt
17th October 2007, 07:58 PM
"Add a new Mac to your Mac"?

I don't get it.

asphotos
17th October 2007, 07:59 PM
your old mac will be Much better, its like recovering your couch! much nicer.

PS. you won't need special ram and a new video card!

asphotos
17th October 2007, 08:00 PM
$130.90 through my employer. but frequency might be easier to "get the box" from.

melbmac
17th October 2007, 08:28 PM
Ordered!

macuzer
17th October 2007, 08:46 PM
Was anyone else interested in Apple's pricing of $158?
Previous OS releases have been $229 or $199....

This is a bit of a hunch, but keep an eye out for some possible price drops from Apple in Australia. From what I understand Apple's AUS pricing was sent some years ago (ie. the conversion system) and this may be soon updated with a much better conversion rate (not as good are the real current rate of around .90c, but better none the less).

I'm tipping that we'll see some refreshes of the Mac line up (particularly Macbooks) in November and some new lower pricing, around about 10% lower in Australia.

Let's hope so!....

Dante Kyar
17th October 2007, 09:16 PM
Ordered the family pack, should arrive on the 26th :)

Asher Tuzza
17th October 2007, 09:53 PM
so lets suppose i want to buy a new mac on friday the 19th
now i go to streetwise and purchase my new mac...
and then i pay an extra few dollars in a week for a new OS???

seems harsh to me but i can dig that

now imagine that i can wait till 'release day' will my new mac at streetwise come with the new OS installed? will they just give me a update cd ? how does it work?

would love to know cause i was going to buy a new mac this weekend but now i aint so sure....

i MIGHT have to wait till monday cause i dont know which day i get paid at work yet...

advice greatfully received - thanks

macuzer
17th October 2007, 11:01 PM
Asher, I'd wait a few weeks it I were you.
Depending on which Mac you're wanting to buy there may be a price drop or speed bump shortly, plus supplies of 10.4 pre-installed Macs will be drying up now, with Re-sellers having to order new machines from Apple with Leopard installed. This means you'll save a few dollars on the CD, but more importantly will have a fresh system of Leopard (instead of having to update/format/re-install over the top of Tiger)... It saves a bit of time for you.

So if it were me I'd wait a few weeks.

alexc
18th October 2007, 09:14 AM
Does anyone know if this will come on a Dual-Layer disk?

I always like to backup my installer disks, and I'm wondering if I'll need a Dual-Layer burner to make a backup of it.

al

iSlayer
18th October 2007, 09:18 AM
Does anyone know if this will come on a Dual-Layer disk?

based on the file sizes reported at rumor sites for all the beta's id say yes. they we all saying 6gb or so

alexc
18th October 2007, 09:23 AM
Anyone know if the resellers will be giving away any goodies if you buy it in Store?

For Tiger I got a Pen-Light thingy and some crappy badge thing :-D

So do I go to the Shop for possible Leopard-flavour-goodies, or order online. Decisions Decisions :rolleyes::eek::cool:

aafuss
18th October 2007, 10:33 AM
Just pre-ordered. You get free shipping.

I'm on the Gold Coast-and Apple says:
"DELIVERS ON OCTOBER 26TH"

And to prepare for Leopard-I got a 20GB hard drive in a case that I'll use for Time machine. Usually my files are under 2GB each in total (20GB is fine as a got it free after asking from a computer group I attend) .


Was anyone else interested in Apple's pricing of $158?
Previous OS releases have been $229 or $199....

This is a bit of a hunch, but keep an eye out for some possible price drops from Apple in Australia. From what I understand Apple's AUS pricing was sent some years ago (ie. the conversion system) and this may be soon updated with a much better conversion rate (not as good are the real current rate of around .90c, but better none the less).

I'm tipping that we'll see some refreshes of the Mac line up (particularly Macbooks) in November and some new lower pricing, around about 10% lower in Australia.

Let's hope so!....


I agree-$158 is a bargin, compared to MS Vista pricing (from $199 and up).

My desktop and dock can be crowded sometimes-I'll make use of Stacks a lot.

rocketxr
18th October 2007, 11:42 AM
$139 preorder through Frequency and will pick up at the launch party. What have I become, attending a launch party for computer software on a Friday night?!

Ha ha ha - what a nerd.....

...oh, hang on, I will also be picking my copy up at the same time & place...;):D

floyd
19th October 2007, 11:02 AM
anyone else think apples new dock looks familiar to java desktop?



http://www.sun.com/software/images/products/I1_looking_glass_lg.jpg

iTrooper
19th October 2007, 11:07 AM
Man, that's uncanny floyd, too bad Java Desktop ain't widespread as it'd like to be, looks kinda neat.

Although I've used Ubuntu with Beryl and that's fairly awesome, even made some of my Mac friends jealous.

floyd
19th October 2007, 11:15 AM
yeah i think they call it project looking glass or sumthin. An attempt at a 3d interface. :)

macuzer
20th October 2007, 12:58 AM
Just to add some more speculation to my tip that Mac prices may drop on, or just after the Leopard release (with its unusual $158 price tag), this paragraph from a resellers website updated this week....

"From Monday the 29th [October] our Apple machine pricing will be drastically reduced. After long and hard consideration and taking into account the drop in prices and margins on Apple equipment (as well as the cheap online prices now available) we have decided to introduce a new sales model that should benefit all."

So we have comments like "drop in prices and margins on Apple equipment..."
and "[new] Apple machine pricing will be drastically reduced"

How can this be when we know that Apple has standard across-the-board re-seller pricing?? Could it be that Apple may be reducing its price points/conversion rate here in Australia perhaps?.... again, let's hope so!

raf
20th October 2007, 01:06 AM
Hey guys, don't really post that often here (maybe I should start!).

Anywho, too late to sift through the 11 pages already, just wanted to let you know that the EDU price if you buy at an actual bookshop etc at a uni, is $99.

Just to confirm, EDU price of Leopard is $99 (can read my posts over on Whirlpool if you like).

Pretty sweet price :)

rtc
20th October 2007, 01:11 AM
My desktop and dock can be crowded sometimes-I'll make use of Stacks a lot.

Stacks sounds like an awesome replacement for the old pre-OSX (8&9 to b precise) "pop-up windows", which I have been sorely missing (along with many other features that got the OSX snip).

Bring it on!

Huy
20th October 2007, 02:02 AM
dfunked, let me know if you actually end up getting it for $99 and can provide a receipt or some proof (it's not for me - it would be more convincing for my campus store if I had proof that some other store sells it for less than $145).

raf
20th October 2007, 12:06 PM
Will do :)

Dante Kyar
20th October 2007, 01:30 PM
Not sure if it has being posted already, but there is a Guided Tour (http://www.apple.com/macosx/guidedtour/) for leopard available.

tcn33
20th October 2007, 01:51 PM
Just to add some more speculation to my tip that Mac prices may drop on, or just after the Leopard release (with its unusual $158 price tag), this paragraph from a resellers website updated this week....
Hmm... would certainly explain a lot. Which reseller btw?

forgie
20th October 2007, 02:01 PM
Hey guys, don't really post that often here (maybe I should start!).

Anywho, too late to sift through the 11 pages already, just wanted to let you know that the EDU price if you buy at an actual bookshop etc at a uni, is $99.

Just to confirm, EDU price of Leopard is $99 (can read my posts over on Whirlpool if you like).

Pretty sweet price :)
How do you know that? The online AU EDU store says it's $145. What gives? I'd prefer to buy it at my uni shop anyway, so I can get it on Launch Day.

raf
20th October 2007, 02:04 PM
How do you know that? The online AU EDU store says it's $145. What gives? I'd prefer to buy it at my uni shop anyway, so I can get it on Launch Day.

Refer to: http://www.tuaw.com/2007/10/18/leopard-education-pricing-update/

I called my university's computer shop, they said $99. Another guy who replied on Whirlpool confirmed it by purchasing from somewhere in Queensland for $99 too.

purana
20th October 2007, 02:19 PM
I've pre-ordered a copy on Apple Online store. Hopefully they have no problems finding out new house/street to delivery it. Soon find out come the end of the week.

Excited to see Leopard (and well umm install it too)

shiny
20th October 2007, 02:41 PM
Refer to: http://www.tuaw.com/2007/10/18/leopard-education-pricing-update/

I called my university's computer shop, they said $99. Another guy who replied on Whirlpool confirmed it by purchasing from somewhere in Queensland for $99 too.

$99 :eek: Damn, it's a weekend, cannot call the Uni bookshop to confirm it.... getting all excited again damn it :D

macuzer
20th October 2007, 04:12 PM
Hmm... would certainly explain a lot. Which reseller btw?

The quoted info was from the website of a (relatively) small reseller in Adelaide - MacAlert.
http://www.macalert.com.au/

Huy
20th October 2007, 10:07 PM
I found this, which pretty much confirms what dfunked was talking about, except I doubt my uni will let students (not institutional staff/departments) buy it at this price.

Mac OS X Leopard 10-99 Seats Edu & Gov - price per seat $ 85.00
Mac OS X Leopard 100-999 Seats Edu & Gov - price per seat A$ 69.00
Mac OS X Leopard 1000+ Seats Edu & Gov - price per seat A$ 55.00

Mac OS X Leopard Retail EDU INST & GOVT A$ 99.00
Mac OS X Leopard Retail EDU IND A$ 145.00

So it looks as if students pay $145, but there is a special institutional and government buyer (?) price of $99 AUD.

I will ask them about this... USYD campus store by the way.

Edit
"departmental purchases only"

"The cheaper price is for University or Government department purchase
orders only. As a current student, you are eligible for Education
Individual pricing."

No go for the $99 price at USYD (main campus).

cjuiz
20th October 2007, 10:36 PM
Will it ship on the 26th or will it be delivered to my house on the 26th? I'm trying to decide whether to pre-order or not.

iSlayer
20th October 2007, 10:39 PM
Will it ship on the 26th or will it be delivered to my house on the 26th? I'm trying to decide whether to pre-order or not.

If you live in a metropolitan area chances are you will get it on the 26th

aafuss
21st October 2007, 12:11 PM
The guided tour looks quite good on the iPod-has a widescreen effect.

OziMac
21st October 2007, 01:12 PM
Any Melbourne Uni or RMIT students have any luck finding a place to get Leopard for this mythical $99 price?

Ever since Melbourne got rid of its UCS department (which was awesome), they don't seem to have anywhere to buy hardware/software from on campus (the bookshop is pretty bare). I know RMIT has a CompNow on campus, but I doubt they'd be selling it at anything less than the EDU individual price Apple offers - please someone tell me I'm wrong though... :)

andrew.wilson
21st October 2007, 03:44 PM
I ordered via online store with EDU.

I doubt I could get that $99 deal at UQ anywhere...and anyway, I wont be at uni at 6pm on the day of release, Id rather get it friday morning since I have the day off :D

kendals
21st October 2007, 10:27 PM
Refer to: http://www.tuaw.com/2007/10/18/leopard-education-pricing-update/

I called my university's computer shop, they said $99. Another guy who replied on Whirlpool confirmed it by purchasing from somewhere in Queensland for $99 too.

That WP guy is me! :)

I preordered from Infinite Systems in Brisbane for $99- they are the supplier or something or have some kind of deal with UQ (and apparently QUT/Griffith). Most other campus resellers would be the same...yay for $99!

kingkangkong
21st October 2007, 10:41 PM
That WP guy is me! :)

I preordered from Infinite Systems in Brisbane for $99- they are the supplier or something or have some kind of deal with UQ (and apparently QUT/Griffith). Most other campus resellers would be the same...yay for $99!

Hi Kendals,

from UQ, so basically, must we present our student ID?

I probably will just pick it up on the 27th instead of pre-ordering :p

kendals
21st October 2007, 10:42 PM
Yeah, kingkangkon, you need to bring in and present your student ID :)

I've already paid for my copy, and will call on Thursday to confirm it being there for pickup on Friday 6pm....fingers crossed!

kingkangkong
21st October 2007, 10:46 PM
haha, awesome!

yeap, will head down infinite to pick it up. on saturday perhaps :p

kendals
21st October 2007, 10:49 PM
Sif Wait Until Saturday! Are You Crazy?! Friday Is Where It's At! :p

Huy
21st October 2007, 10:50 PM
USYD won't sell it to me for $99 :(

kingkangkong
21st October 2007, 10:51 PM
if i miss the 6:08 Robina train imma walking home my man.

i cant take that sort of risk!

rickyd
21st October 2007, 11:15 PM
Does anyone know how ADC members will receive their copies? Must we download it (blow my usage) or receive hard copy disks. Also, do we receive Leopard Client and Server?

What has happened in the past?
Ricky.

andrew.wilson
21st October 2007, 11:22 PM
Oooooo looks like we could get it from UQ...oh well, copy pre-ordered from Apple, just easier to get it delivered. Depending on how scroungy I feel I might cancel my order :p

forgie
22nd October 2007, 12:18 AM
Any Melbourne Uni or RMIT students have any luck finding a place to get Leopard for this mythical $99 price?

Ever since Melbourne got rid of its UCS department (which was awesome), they don't seem to have anywhere to buy hardware/software from on campus (the bookshop is pretty bare). I know RMIT has a CompNow on campus, but I doubt they'd be selling it at anything less than the EDU individual price Apple offers - please someone tell me I'm wrong though... :)
The uni "Smart Shop" in Union House is now owned by Next Byte. They have macs, iPods etc. I haven't asked them about the $99 thing, but I will if I remember.

aafuss
22nd October 2007, 12:35 AM
Has anyone's order status been updated yet?

iTalk
22nd October 2007, 12:43 AM
forgie,
I'm a third year student in RMIT but never heard of that Smart Shop !! Where is it ? :D
The only computer shop that I know of is CompNow in Building 10 Level 4.

Keving
22nd October 2007, 01:36 AM
So when can we expect TNT to deliver? They must be rather busy if it HAS to be after 6, not all day..

iSlayer
22nd October 2007, 02:55 AM
Has anyone's order status been updated yet?

Its almost certain that no copies will ship until thursday

iSlayer
22nd October 2007, 02:56 AM
So when can we expect TNT to deliver? They must be rather busy if it HAS to be after 6, not all day..

It doesnt have to be after 6 for pre orders from Apple. Only resellers will likely have to wait until 6.

shiny
22nd October 2007, 10:58 AM
No $99 Leopard for me, Unibooks in SA does not sell Apple software. The guy on the phone said that hopefully in a few months time they will be selling it. :)

OziMac
22nd October 2007, 12:54 PM
Next Byte at Melbourne Uni is not open Friday night for the launch, but will be selling Leopard on Saturday from 11am for $145, not $99.

So looks like it's back to Apple online for me. This is what I hate about Apple's selective campus reseller thingo - if you can't offer it across the baord, why don't they just properly verify their own education sales and make one price available for all education customers. Grr.

Quamen
22nd October 2007, 01:44 PM
Does anyone know how ADC members will receive their copies? Must we download it (blow my usage) or receive hard copy disks. Also, do we receive Leopard Client and Server?

What has happened in the past?
Ricky.

Download from the site I believe. Otherwise it should come with the next DVD pack that they send out.

Peter Wells
22nd October 2007, 02:18 PM
just spoke to a dude at rmit compnow, he says $145..

Asher Tuzza
22nd October 2007, 04:20 PM
ozimac - i wouldnt blame apple for nextbyte not doing edu price even if it is a campus store - i have had a gazilion fights with nextbyte over a gazilion issues - and its only when the big boss (no not store managers) get involved that things tend to get fixed up - occasionally store managers are helpfull... i gave up on nextbyte a long time ago - am a very happy customer of streetwise at the moment - very nice to deal with - only thing i will say is dont ask for a discount cause they wont do one... but their prices are usually the 2nd cheepest or the cheepest about - even right now they are still selling mini's 10$ under the RRP - i know its not much but its better then anyone else... as per usual it depends on who you get to deal with you on your special day of purchase - i think they do realise that a new computer isnt a regular purchase for most folks and that its normal for people to ask questions and the likes - and the other half is that you can get a motorbike or a cheep car for the same price as a new computer - so its not a cheep thing to be buying.... i feel that streetwise people do recognise this to some extent while nextbyte staff seem to not - and not care.... perhaps nextbyte management will reed this and give their staff a friendly reminder before the christmass break - nextbyte does have their 'training' (used to be free with purchase of comptuer and around the hundred dollar mark without) but they often (usually) forget to tell new purchases about it....

decryption
22nd October 2007, 04:39 PM
$99 Leopard? Bullshit - the store must be selling *under* cost price and losing money on each sale, which I doubt. Someone made a mistake.

andrew.wilson
22nd October 2007, 07:05 PM
$99 Leopard? Bullshit - the store must be selling *under* cost price and losing money on each sale, which I doubt. Someone made a mistake.

Thats what I am thinking....how are they selling it so cheap? :confused:

aafuss
22nd October 2007, 07:32 PM
My order said prepared for shipment today-but now is back to saying deliver on the 26th.

frenchtoast
23rd October 2007, 04:29 PM
$99 Leopard? Bullshit - the store must be selling *under* cost price and losing money on each sale, which I doubt. Someone made a mistake.

Seems like they are bulk buying educational site volume to get that price.

iTrooper
23rd October 2007, 04:47 PM
Where in the world do you go to get it at that price?

Huy
23rd October 2007, 05:15 PM
Mac OS X Leopard 10-99 Seats Edu & Gov - price per seat A$ 85.00
Mac OS X Leopard 100-999 Seats Edu & Gov - price per seat A$ 69.00
Mac OS X Leopard 1000+ Seats Edu & Gov - price per seat A$ 55.00

Mac OS X Leopard Retail EDU INST & GOVT A$ 99.00
Mac OS X Leopard Retail EDU IND A$ 145.00

Currawong
25th October 2007, 03:18 PM
Posts moved to this thread (http://forums.mactalk.com.au/showthread.php?t=38708) regarding Leopard shipping.

:)