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Disko
5th March 2004, 02:19 PM
Let put on a hypothetical situation here - Steve Jobs walks into your house. You can ask the guy any bunch of questions you like, what are they going to be?

You can ask about all the mac stuff, ipods, software - whatever. What would you ask him, and why?

pipsqeek
5th March 2004, 03:18 PM
The most nagging thing on my mind.

I would ask him why the smaller notebooks like the 12in iBook and PB are lower spec'd when sometimes people buy them because of thier size, but want the performance of a 17" PB?

Your really pushing the iPod. Why don't you push all the other wonderfull Apple products as hard?

Bring back the CUBE!!!

Steve

elvis
5th March 2004, 09:32 PM
When is he going to finally push for high-end CAD and 3D to migrate to Apple hardware, and the CAD world can finally be rid of x86?

I mean seriously, he runs Apple AND Pixar. The man has so much control over the 3D-CAD market and he doesn't do a thing about it!

The G5's have finally introduced an AGP-Pro slot for Mac, yet there's no decent cards to go with it. Meanwhile anyone doing any semi-serious CAD work on Mac (either for Architectural visualisation like ArchiCAD or 3D design/rendering like Maya) is stuck with piss-poor gaming cards.

All that CPU power, native OpenGL, and no decent video cards to utilise it! C'mon Steve, give the CAD monkeys a good reason to dump Windows!!! If I'm stuck supporting AutoCAD and 3DSMax for the rest of my life on x86, I think I'll' scream!

Craigglez
6th March 2004, 01:48 AM
Dear Steve,

Can you please drop the prices of your hardware by ~33% to make them more attractive to poor students such as myself? This will also increase your market share I'm sure...

kthxbye

jameso
6th March 2004, 08:48 AM
man, thats so hard. some thing rude an obnoxious, you know, just too get up his nose. That or tell him to do something about the dock

jameso

pipsqeek
6th March 2004, 07:36 PM
Yeah, Apple finally moves to a new AGP system and the rest of the industry is moving to PCI Express.

What happend to Apple for things like making UBS and FireWire mainstream.

If the iMac never came out, PC's would still be small beige boxes with a green LED and a red LED.

Oh, and not to mention the PWR button and the almight and seldom used RESET button.

Steve :ph34r:

elvis
6th March 2004, 07:48 PM
Seldom used reset button? Are you talking about PCs? Far as I know the reset button on a PC gets used more often than some of the alpha-numeric characters do at times. :)

pipsqeek
6th March 2004, 07:57 PM
Yeah,

You gotta love the tonal quality of the internet. :D

I was being sarcastic. :rolleyes:

I think if keystroke recording software was connected to every "BUTTON" on the computer (not just the keyboard) then you would see how much more the reset button gets used than any other key.

But now now. I can't just single out the PC. for its not the PC that is at fault, its the software of choice....

Not mentioning any names, Windoesn't!!! hmmmm... gizemtight!!! coming down with a cold.

Steve

Currawong
6th March 2004, 08:50 PM
I'd ask him, would you answer select questions from AppleTalkAustralia...

Most of the questions people would ask I can get answered from someone in Apple anyway + I have enough understanding of Apple's reasoning for decisions.

Ultimately, I'd probably ask him for a screenshot of whatever computer he uses for work + details of what app's he uses daily, as well as a shot of his work and home "setup". I'd also ask him what he'd like to produce (device or software) if money, market and component supply considerations were no issue.

decryption
7th March 2004, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Currawong@Mar 6 2004, 09:50 PM
Ultimately, I'd probably ask him for a screenshot of whatever computer he uses for work + details of what app's he uses daily, as well as a shot of his work and home "setup". I'd also ask him what he'd like to produce (device or software) if money, market and component supply considerations were no issue.
I'd ask the same thing too, I'd love to his unadulterated plans for "my digital life".

Of course, I'd like to know what sort of killer apps Apple has lined up, but I doubt I'd get any answers :P

I'd also ask why Apple persists with the one button mouse.
Surley it's time for a two button mouse with a scroll wheel... (puts on flame suit) :P

the_argon
7th March 2004, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by decryption@Mar 7 2004, 10:36 AM
Surley it's time for a two button mouse with a scroll wheel... (puts on flame suit) :P
... Agreed.

I'd ask him what he had for lunch :P

Nah, I'd generally ask him about the future of apple, what is on the cards in the next 5 years or so.

I would ask what's in the works in the OS department.

IMHO there is no reason to question job's/apples past mistakes.

But on a more personal level I'd ask questions about his days at neXt, what I can do to become the CEO of a company like apple, what was the best time (for him) to work at apple. etc.

I'd also ask (or plead) if he can get me a job at apple, even just cleaning bins or something.

EDIT: heh, if the community gets big enough you never know, we might be able to get steve's attention long enough to get some of these questions in. :)

kim jong il
7th March 2004, 01:11 PM
just quickly, while on the topic of two button mice with a scroll wheel; I want three buttons (shift would be handy) There IS one thing that I don't like about the above mentioned mouse and that is: when I boot in OS 9 I find myself desperately scrolling away and nothing happens. It only takes a second to realise, but I keep doing it.

Sorry, I'd ask about the mouse and future development plans. They must be already looking at projected features of the next generation processors I would have thought. I'd love to know first hand. (I could probably get this from an IBM or Apple rumours site but they would be just rumours)

cheers, kim

Currawong
7th March 2004, 04:15 PM
If you can track down the developer Apple Interface Guidelines (I'm too lazy to search for it atm) you'll understand why Macs don't have 3 button mice by default. In very basic terms, it encourages developers to carefully think out the way they design their programs functionality-wise, compared to how so many PC programs interface in wildly different ways.

In ultra basic terms, it stops developers just putting all the functionality of their programs into the contextual menus.

DVD Plaza
7th March 2004, 08:45 PM
I'd demand an explanation why Apple has made no effort what-so-ever to let people know about OSX - I've never met anyone who has known what OSX is, they still think of Macs as the crappy old classic OS.

I'd also demand that, even if is anal enough to still include single button mice with Macs, that PowerBooks have a two button trackpad. A regular mouse can be replaced, the trackpad cannot. I work with an external 90% of the time, but when using the trackpad I despise Apple's 1984 attitude with absolute passion every single time I have to stretch my fingers over to the damned CTRL key...

I'd also ask him, as politely as possible, so shove the brushed metal GUI firmly up his ass. For instances like iTunes, sure looks great, but when you start getting the damn GUI overlapping everywhere such as with Safari and my god the friggen Finder of all things?!? I just can't stand it. Sorry Steve, as difficult as it might be to understand, I use Camino simply because I can't stand Safari's brushed metal.

Otherwise, my various bits of feedback I've posted to Apple over time have all been implemented (whether because of reading my feedback or simply being on their todo list anyway is another matter) so that would be about it.

Other than, of course, where is my G5 17" PowerBook Stevo? ;)

Jimbo
8th March 2004, 01:57 PM
i actually emailed an apple rep late 99 about the newton's desicionto get cut, they replied!!!!!1 with a letter saying that they were to continue the messagemad project in 2000 using mac os... Where's my newton steve?

pipsqeek
8th March 2004, 06:31 PM
DVD Plaza:

Look below at Safari, does all 10% of that brushed metal really annoy you?

I don't particularly like it but you gotta let some things go when you have a browser that works fast, stable and generally well enough for my needs.

Steve

DVD Plaza
8th March 2004, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by pipsqeek@Mar 8 2004, 06:31 PM
DVD Plaza:

Look below at Safari, does all 10% of that brushed metal really annoy you?

I don't particularly like it but you gotta let some things go when you have a browser that works fast, stable and generally well enough for my needs.

Steve
Your screenshot doesn't represent the way I work though. For me, the days of working "fullscreen" died back with Windows 3.1 - I work with applications/windows open all over my screen simultaniously. To that end tabbed browsing isn't my thing either, it would prevent me from doing what I am right now - looking at numerous different pages at once along with parts of other pages/applications sticking out beneath/around those. Simply the way I work - multi-tasking gallore.

Brushed metal overlapping brushed metal is not just a matter of being ugly, it's in violation of Apple's own stance of making a user interface simple - for example I shouldn't have to look at the colour of the title bar text know if a window has the focus (ie light grey versus black), the entire title bar should stand out as easily as an aqua window does. Ironically the brushed metal Apple implement on their Windows applications is usable whilst, for whatever reason, it's only OSX that gets the crippled brushed metal.

But in any case you are right - it boils down to a browser that's fast, stable, and takes care of my needs - and Camino goes beyond that so I'm happy? Except the builds since last weekend though actually - they've replaced the toolbar buttons with brushed metal style ones, which looks rather out of place on an aqua application...?!?

Safari is still around though - I have IE, Safari, Opera, Navigator, Firefox, and Camino all open right now and within Virtual PC even more browsers than that sitting in pause mode. I'm over 1 year into developing a brand new 100% pure XHTML & CSS based version of my site and, given the insane differences in support between all those browsers, I've no choice but to work with them all if I'm to ensure such a site will work for everyone. XHTML & CSS is great in theory, but damn it's a nightmare to get working consistently (or at all) between each of the browsers...

mbd
8th March 2004, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by DVD Plaza@Mar 7 2004, 08:45 PM
I'd demand an explanation why Apple has made no effort what-so-ever to let people know about OSX - I've never met anyone who has known what OSX is, they still think of Macs as the crappy old classic OS.

I agree that a lot of people aren't aware of the goodness of mac os x over previous mac os versions, but Apple has made at least some effort to advertise the fact; see http://www4.macnn.com/macnn/articles/unixad.jpg

stevejay
9th March 2004, 09:21 AM
1. Is the job going for an "ideas man" or futurist?
2. Would you like a coffee? Tea? Beer? (lets not forget our manners!)
3. Why did you get rid of the customisable Apple Menu? Why oh why!?
4. A biscuit? (offers the tin)
5. I hope you're not planning to listen to all those people who want a 2 button mouse, are you?
6. When is iPod going to get record capability, XL connectors and switchable between mic level input and line level input? (I'd pay the money they charge for iPod if it had THOSE features)
6a. And when is iPod going to be able to be downloaded from within iTunes?
7. When is Apple going to bring out a tapeless digital video camera/direct to disk recorder? (A sort of iVid)
7a. Will it be a 3 CCD camera? Because don't bother if it isn't!
7b. Will it have a 300Gb drive built in?

decryption
9th March 2004, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by stevejay@Mar 9 2004, 10:21 AM
6. When is iPod going to get record capability, XL connectors and switchable between mic level input and line level input? (I'd pay the money they charge for iPod if it had THOSE features)
7a. Will it be a 3 CCD camera? Because don't bother if it isn't!
7b. Will it have a 300Gb drive built in?
That's some wishful thinking there :P

XL connectors are pretty big aren't they? They're thicker than the previous model iPod if I recall correctly. What you want is a portable DAT recorder without the high price Sony charges for them :P

A 300gb HD in the a camcorder is almost impossible, at least for the next 5 years. They just managed to squash an 80gb drive into a laptop (2.5" format) 300gb in something that fits in your hand, not any time soon.
Though, it could easily be done if the physical size is something larger, sort of like the old 80s camcorder sizes. You've gotta squeeze in a 3.5" hard drive, and the heat it generates don't forget.
And yeah, 3CCD is mandataory for video nerds like us, but tell that to the average man on the street who probably isn't going to pay the price premium for it :(

It would be cool is Apple made a hard drive based camcorder, but the technology isn't here yet, and probably won't be for a while. If they can get 2.5" laptop drives over 250gb, it may be viable.... Hopefully in my lifetime :P

kim jong il
9th March 2004, 01:05 PM
EDIT: deleted

decryption
9th March 2004, 03:38 PM
Ah kim jong il, I'm only 19 :P

But yeah, hopefully it is sooner rather than later! I want a 3CCD palm sized camcorder with 300gb of storage, with the abilty to transfer data onto a terabyte sized iPod and FireWire 800 output now! :P

frank_t
11th March 2004, 07:01 PM
Well hello i'm Steve Jobs....well no i'm not...but from all the e-mails i get from people around the world talking to me like i am i have to hit my self to remember i have to tell these poeple to READ THE MAIN PAGE :huh: ;) :D

My Site on Steve Jobs....not all e-mails that i get from people think i'm Steve Jobs. :rolleyes:

http://www.geocities.com/franktau/

Frank_t

Disko
11th March 2004, 07:10 PM
Cool site, Frank_t.

frank_t
11th March 2004, 07:19 PM
Thanks Disko...wanted to add another movie to my movies page on it. Got a movie where steve has long hair and is talking about the web (in 1992 i think) on CNN money line tv show. And does a demo...but got no web space to put it...well apart my SpyMac disc but don't know if i can trust there servers as there going up and down alot since there still not %100 ready.

Frank_t

PeterPE
11th March 2004, 09:03 PM
G'day Steve,

A question: I accept that the Mac will forever be sold with 1-button mice and I even think I understand Apple reasoning on this. Okay. Now, Mac OS X provides drivers for many different printers. Why doesn't my Mac include drivers for many different mice? The only driver I must obtain from the hardware manufacturer is for the 5-button mouse, otherwise I would have no need to ever be involved with Microsoft.

My 2¢ Steve.

decryption
11th March 2004, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by PeterPE@Mar 11 2004, 10:03 PM
I must obtain from the hardware manufacturer is for the 5-button mouse, otherwise I would have no need to ever be involved with Microsoft.
If you dont buy a Microsoft mouse.... problem solved :P
Logitech make some fine mices, I'm using an MX500 at the moment. It's so much better than the stock Apple mouse, it's like a whole new computer :P

moo
11th March 2004, 10:04 PM
your steveness

please please please can we have a headless consumer Mac?
and
when are you going to advertise
when are you going to let Arno Lenior do something?
lower prices?
be fair dinkum about selling OSX?
get Macs back into schools?
lift market share?
etc etc etc

decryption
11th March 2004, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by moo@Mar 11 2004, 11:04 PM
Please please please can we have a headless consumer Mac?

Yes! Oh yes please, I want one...
an iMac in an LCII footprint without a display, is that too much to ask? :(

LCGuy
11th March 2004, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by moo@Mar 11 2004, 10:04 PM
get Macs back into schools?
Please oh please. Seeing poor old 68ks being replaced with brand new evil Ipex PCs makes me sick.... :angry:

decryption
11th March 2004, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by LCGuy@Mar 11 2004, 11:25 PM
Please oh please. Seeing poor old 68ks being replaced with brand new evil Ipex PCs makes me sick.... :angry:
At high school from year 7 to 9, we had three labs of LCII's for our computing needs, then in 2000, they replaced them with homemade Pentium 3 machines.
That same year, I went and did work experience for the same guys that set up the LCII's' all the way back in 1993. When I was asked if the LCII's are still there, I said no, they asked what were they replaced with. I said the Pentium 3's, and one guy almost looked sick at the thought of it too :P

I was lucky as I managed to take an LCII when they replaced them (good terms with an Apple loving IT teacher, "the budget didn't allow for iMacs, hmph.") but it was removed from me in the great computer ban of 2002 (Year 12 :P).

I miss that little machine :(

PeterPE
11th March 2004, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by decryption@Mar 11 2004, 10:56 PM
If you dont buy a Microsoft mouse.... problem solved :P
Logitech make some fine mices, I'm using an MX500 at the moment. It's so much better than the stock Apple mouse, it's like a whole new computer :P
Does Logitech have a 5-button mouse and driver for OSX? Microsoft does. I would not be without my 5-button mouse, ever. I reckon I would switch to Logitech in an instant if it met my requirements. I just checked on the Logitech MX500. Wow. They have a Panther driver! Last time I looked they didn't even have a MacOSX driver, just 8.6 on up. Too late, Logitech, we're a Microsoft Explorer household here. They're on every Mac and PC. But things are looking up. I just wish the OS already had a driver so I could avoid the requisite driver installation.

the_argon
12th March 2004, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by PeterPE@Mar 11 2004, 11:22 PM
Does Logitech have a 5-button mouse and driver for OSX? Microsoft does. I would not be without my 5-button mouse, ever. I reckon I would switch to Logitech in an instant if it met my requirements. I just checked on the Logitech MX500. Wow. They have a Panther driver! Last time I looked they didn't even have a MacOSX driver, just 8.6 on up. Too late, Logitech, we're a Microsoft Explorer household here. They're on every Mac and PC. But things are looking up. I just wish the OS already had a driver so I could avoid the requisite driver installation.
Well... my MX700 (:P to decryption) works fine in OSX natively without any drivers at all. Just plugged it straight into my iMac. :huh: *checks* yeah, button 4 & 5 are expose. I am pretty sure the MS mice don't need drivers either.

PeterPE
12th March 2004, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by the_argon@Mar 12 2004, 01:00 AM
Well... my MX700 (:P to decryption) works fine in OSX natively without any drivers at all. Just plugged it straight into my iMac. :huh: *checks* yeah, button 4 & 5 are expose. I am pretty sure the MS mice don't need drivers either.
Ya gotta have the driver if you want the additional buttons programmable. I mean, can you assign other non-Exposé functions to buttons 4 and 5? Nope, not without the driver. On the few occasions I have needed to use Exposé, the keyboard controls and hot corners have sufficed, so I don't need 'em on my mouse.

I have been all over this multibutton mouse programming thing and OS9 and OSX don't allow programming of the extra buttons. The 3rd party drivers are needed to do the job.

Cheers, I'm orf to bed.

mhollis
12th March 2004, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by RocketFactory@Mar 8 2004, 10:32 PM
I agree that a lot of people aren't aware of the goodness of mac os x over previous mac os versions, but Apple has made at least some effort to advertise the fact; see http://www4.macnn.com/macnn/articles/unixad.jpg
OK, that computer is a laptop that has no desk-mounted internal hard disk. They're running top in the bsd Terminal, which is hardly rocket science. Additionally, they have Microsoft PowerPoint running -- and here I thought Apple had something better. They don't have an X-Window application up and they have a DVD in the disk without DVD Player running.

Kind of a funky ad if you ask me, but then I do use a Mac and I can see what the machine is doing.