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Bachman
25th August 2006, 05:38 PM
:thumbdn: Can anyone explain to me why a Mac Book Pro 17 is over $1000 cheaper in the US than it is here after doing the conversion?
I cant see how Apple Australia can justify the difference apart from being too greedy.

thorevenge
25th August 2006, 05:39 PM
Shipping, import tax, export tax from the US... tax...?

GST too.

Bachman
25th August 2006, 05:46 PM
Maybe some of that is GST etc, but not over a thousand bucks

And they come from the same place.....CHINA!

W2ttsy
25th August 2006, 05:49 PM
most of it is dealer markup. since the import + GST price is higher, the dealer % is then higher too. so it all adds up.

that and the machines are different on account of the different PSUs and other localisation tweaks.

W2ttsy

fuchingsiang
25th August 2006, 05:49 PM
C'mon... almost everthing's from China nowadays, what's the big fuss? That fact does not contribute to the extra $1k that you claimed...

jeremy_warnock
25th August 2006, 05:54 PM
its government important taxs - then gst. And its not just apple. I bought a lacie 250g external drive last year in hawaii for $150 USd which equalled about $200 aud - the same drive here was over 300 at the time, its still over 200 now

Bachman
25th August 2006, 05:57 PM
I dont care that is made in China dude. Just says it dosnt come from the US.

Well, I think Aussies pay too much tax

bennettnz
25th August 2006, 06:00 PM
So what? The grass is always greener right? You want USA prices buy it from the USA. You want a decent relationship with an Australian based reseller then buy from an Australian retailer. Stop whining. Unless you're thinking of going into politics then nothing will change the price - it is what it is.

macmate
25th August 2006, 06:06 PM
how many of these threads do we have to endure before people stop and thing about things properly.

Think people. firstly all US prices are excluding tax. apple then have to give themselves some margin for the fact the dollar can go up and down so much. as apple profits are messured in US dollars. therefore doing a current convertion is not fair.

we then have import taxes (thanks for that jonny, gst was meant to get rid of that). As mentioned above apple works on a certain % margin for the resellers, as an example 8% of 4000 is a lot more than 8% of 2800.

There are plenty of other factors involoved but i can't be bothered getting into it any more.

Ric

Bachman
25th August 2006, 06:12 PM
Politics.....now theres an idea. Make more money than cutting video all day

I always try to "thing about things"

sorry!

I know that stuff.....I dont expect them to be priced the same but a 25% difference is getting a bit high. Their software is running at about 10%

feeze
25th August 2006, 06:39 PM
Yeah, but EVERYTHING in the USA is cheaper.

The US market is far larger then the Aussie market.

Bigger market -> more business -> more competition -> lower prices.

Sucks but that's just the way it is. :)

macsyd
25th August 2006, 06:42 PM
You are way way off with your $1000 difference. I suspect you failed to add the applicable state tax to the US price (and that ignores the additional city and county taxes that also apply).

Assuming just the State sales tax for California 7.25%

MBP lowest spec
$1999 USD * 1.0725 = $2143.92 USD

Converted using the Apple supplied Unit Converter widget
$2809.11 AUD

Apple AU Store sells for $3199 inclusive of GST which makes an approx $400 AUD difference.

Not much more considering all the things already outlined here. Depending on the state, county and city in which the product is sold, sales tax over there also affects the differential.

You werent comparing apples to apples. So to speak.

EDIT: Just realised you were talking about the 17", not the 15" as per my calc. With the 17" MBP it works out to be about $465 diff.

EDIT No 2: And if you are looking at a laptop, why not take advantage (if your employer allows) of the huge tax benefit of salary packaging an FBT free laptop. Try and beat the effective price then!

chrism238
25th August 2006, 06:47 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feeze &#064; Aug 25 2006, 04&#58;39 PM) 208410</div>
Yeah, but EVERYTHING in the USA is cheaper.[/b]Well, except for health insurance, any insurance, lawyers, most groceries, land taxes, school taxes, most education, aquaducts, ....

Bachman
25th August 2006, 06:52 PM
Now I&#39;m going to cry

Hey whats the FBT?

macsyd
25th August 2006, 06:54 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bachman &#064; Aug 25 2006, 06&#58;52 PM) 208420</div>

Now I&#39;m going to cry

Hey whats the FBT?
[/b]

1 laptop per year is allowed FBT free. So you effectively save your highest marginal rate of tax (depends on the tax bracket you are in).

Some employers will also refund the GST credit, if they arent greedy&#33;

So effectively, if you are in the top tax bracket, you can get a half-price laptop.

Ask your HR dept/person...if you have one&#33;

melbmac
25th August 2006, 07:01 PM
You want American prices, move to America.

Bachman
25th August 2006, 07:04 PM
Sounds like a plan......ta

No tanks..I&#39;ll stay in Johnnies Little America for now

Squozen
25th August 2006, 07:05 PM
Going to the US? Fine. Just don&#39;t get sick or unemployed. Or expect any holidays.

I&#39;m annoyed with Apple Australia because US Apple customers get a replacement battery before having to return theirs, but I have to hand mine in and then be without a battery for 4-6 weeks. Oh, and I can&#39;t buy a replacement because my Apple retailer says Apple is out of stock.

macsyd
25th August 2006, 07:06 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Squozen &#064; Aug 25 2006, 07&#58;05 PM) 208427</div>

Just don&#39;t get sick or unemployed. Or expect any holidays.
[/b]

Isnt that almost the case here now? ;)

Sorry, couldnt resist...

Squozen
25th August 2006, 07:10 PM
Actually, in my current job you&#39;re dead right, I don&#39;t get any holidays at all, I barely get a weekend to myself, and I&#39;m still earning under &#036;40k... you&#39;ve convinced me, I&#39;m off to Utah.

Byrd
25th August 2006, 07:10 PM
The original question has been answered - well.

Before this turns into more of a moan about everything else, I&#39;ll close it.

JB