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djjeffree
23rd July 2006, 10:20 PM
I am managing several emails using entourage 2004 and no matter how careful I am about who I give my email address to I seem to start accumulating spam. Id like to know what other people are using to try and minimize spam. Im sure im not the only person out there who is searching for solutions!

J.

purana
23rd July 2006, 10:28 PM
The best spam filtering is the filtering that takes place on your mail server... unfortunately I dont want to run my own server for now, as I just dont want to for now. Although I have in the past and this is beyond most peoples scope to fighting spam.

Oddly enough the best spam protection I have found for myself personally is to use a gmail account, it appears to eat every bit of spam and the odd one that dont I can mark it as spam and help myself and others.

I recently setup a subdomain off my own domain and signed up for google hosted with this subdomain. I've since started using it quite a bit and put my folks and brother onto accounts off this google hosted. My parents now get 0 spam into inbox. As gmail servers eat it all :)

I have an email address from several years ago still getting hit with spam.. it now forwards to my gmail google hosted account.

Mikey
23rd July 2006, 10:34 PM
Both Mail and Thunderbird allow multiple email accounts and have very effective spam filters built in. I know that Charles Wright (bleedingedge.com.au ??) at the Age recommends some service that attracts spam so that they can then filter it, but it costs money. Most ISPs will filter spam, too. Netspace allows none through.

djjeffree
23rd July 2006, 10:34 PM
Id have to agree with you. I started a gmail account a while ago that I use sparingly for personal emails and I dont get a lot of spam coming through on that account. However, I have existing email accounts that are linked to my website that I cannot change or move over to a gmail account. How can I filter these accounts if they are starting to become flooded with spam?

purana
23rd July 2006, 10:41 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(djjeffree &#064; Jul 23 2006, 10&#58;34 PM) 197816</div>

Id have to agree with you. I started a gmail account a while ago that I use sparingly for personal emails and I dont get a lot of spam coming through on that account. However, I have existing email accounts that are linked to my website that I cannot change or move over to a gmail account. How can I filter these accounts if they are starting to become flooded with spam?
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Get a provider who does good spam filtering, or do as the poster says above get/use a decent mail client with spam filtering plugins... of course your still going to download all that spam by pop (but it will then get deleted by the client filters).

djjeffree
23rd July 2006, 10:51 PM
My mail client does a good job of identifying spam on my pop accounts, but as you said it still downloads them into entourage. I guess there is no way to stop it before it gets to entourage the way gmail can?

purana
23rd July 2006, 10:55 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(djjeffree &#064; Jul 23 2006, 10&#58;51 PM) 197824</div>

My mail client does a good job of identifying spam on my pop accounts, but as you said it still downloads them into entourage. I guess there is no way to stop it before it gets to entourage the way gmail can?
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That&#39;s correct. To filter before you client downloads, it has to be done on the server...

ClockWork
23rd July 2006, 11:09 PM
Djjeffree,

If you wish to continue using Entourage - cause let&#39;s face it - for a Microsoft product, it&#39;s classy, easy to use and has multiple all-in-one organizer style functions, one can purchase a SPAM Filtering Application for Mac OS X, yet regardless of price, or format, they all operate in a similar way.

They work outside of Entourage, and they need to be taught (by you) who is friend and who is foe.

A couple that I&#39;ve installed for people that appear to have good results are:

POPMonitor 2.1.3 (http://www.vechtwijk.nl/dev/popmonitor/)
SPAMFire 2.22 (http://www.matterform.com/mac_software/spam_email_filter/)

(SPAMFire comes with what&#39;s known as a Revenge Feature - which allows you to send the same crap back to the SPAMMERs - though how successful this ability is, is questionable).

Both do the same kinds of things. They both need to be activated before you enter Entourage. They both are able to peer into your Service Provide and list what&#39;s new in there before you download it, and they both allow you to select that which is clearly SPAM - like parts of its name - ie: penis, viagra, Phd, hornyteens etc - or parts of its email address - that which comes after the @ symbol, and tell these applications to Block and Delete anything looking like these, and then to allow Friendly e-mail to be recognized as "friendly", so that after you quit either of the anti-SPAM programs and enter Entourage, the SPAM just isn&#39;t there as it was blocked and deleted by you straight from inside your ISP before it ever reached you.

They are by no stretch of the imagination, what one would call: Instant Cures - as they need to be taught by you which mail is crap and which mail is OK, so if you&#39;re receiving let&#39;s say 300 per day, after 10 days of teaching these anti-SPAM applications who&#39;s friend and who&#39;s foe, the SPAM will should go from 300 per day down to a trickle of 3 per day - and then those can be Blocked and Deleted.

Doubtless there are many other antiSPAM Applications out there - though these two seem to do a decent job. Installed and configured POPMonitor for one poor bugger who was receiving 500 SPAMs per 30 minutes - and after around 12 days or so, it had trickled down to 1 a day - so that is at least bearable.

Cheers,

ClockWork

djjeffree
23rd July 2006, 11:19 PM
Clockwork,

Great information thanks. Ill give one of them a try and report back here with my results.

J.

Kuma
24th July 2006, 04:57 AM
I was getting quiet a build up of spam on my .mac account (I think there server side filters suck - if they have any at all). So I forwarded all mail from .mac to gmail
It works a treat...
I think in 3 months of active use (as opposed to the stagnant gmail account I had for over a year).. I have only marked 2 emails as spam...
all the rest goes to the spam folder...

cgollner
24th July 2006, 07:18 AM
Gmail. The odd one comes into the inbox which I mark as spam. Highly recommended.

mac_man_luke
24th July 2006, 09:09 AM
I run SpamAssassin on my server at level 8 and it picks up 99% of spam, its excellent

Currawong
24th July 2006, 10:04 AM
All so unnecessarily complex. I found the best, free method for stopping spam.

Google Mail.

I also signed up for their hosting trial for one of my domains, which uses the GMail system.

The filtering is almost perfect. It only catches, very rarely, genuine mail, usually from a mailing list or similar that doesn&#39;t have a clear "To:" address.

djjeffree
2nd August 2006, 02:02 PM
What about .mac accounts? Are the spam filters decent? I was thinking about getting an account but it would be good to hear some feedback from people first.

J.

On-Site-Tec
2nd August 2006, 03:57 PM
I use Spam Assassin like Luke, its an amazing spam filter. Everything that it doesn&#39;t catch, Mail.app will catch.

Spam Assassin comes with just about every web hosting package I think, definately comes with cPanel anyway.

Currawong
2nd August 2006, 05:22 PM
Is there a spam filter on .Mac accounts? I can&#39;t seem to find options for mine.

rob05
2nd August 2006, 06:09 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Currawong &#064; Aug 2 2006, 05&#58;22 PM) 200578</div>

Is there a spam filter on .Mac accounts? I can&#39;t seem to find options for mine.
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Not that I can find either.

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On-Site-Tec
2nd August 2006, 08:07 PM
But .Mac would use the same system for filtering junk as Mail.app does.

Doesn&#39;t the .Mac webmail section have a "Junk" button? If it does then id bet on that its the same "learning" type of junk filtering system as what is in OS X.

warren21
2nd August 2006, 08:59 PM
I use the spam filter that Optusnet provide. Works well.

something2sea
2nd August 2006, 09:20 PM
Gmail has great spam filtering, I use that, and check via mail.app. so that gets the &#39;last shreads&#39; out, like, 1 a month or so, so, yeah, all good for me.

I nearly had to ask "what&#39;s spam", becuase i hardly ever use webmail

spargo
2nd August 2006, 10:05 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cgollner &#064; Jul 23 2006, 10&#58;18 PM) 197867</div>

Gmail. The odd one comes into the inbox which I mark as spam. Highly recommended.
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Another vote for GMail, which I access over the web when at work or on the road, or via Mail.app at home on the PB. Very little spam makes it through to my Inbox or through to Mail.app

It is sweet. Hotmail is shite.

djjeffree
6th August 2006, 10:15 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kuma &#064; Jul 24 2006, 04&#58;57 AM) 197864</div>

I was getting quiet a build up of spam on my .mac account (I think there server side filters suck - if they have any at all). So I forwarded all mail from .mac to gmail
It works a treat...
I think in 3 months of active use (as opposed to the stagnant gmail account I had for over a year).. I have only marked 2 emails as spam...
all the rest goes to the spam folder...
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This looks like a good option that will work for free. So if I set up my email to forward all mails to a new gmail account I can use the filters to weed out all the spam? Theres no problem with Gmail thinking the messages are spam since all the incoming emails will be forwarded? I can then reply with my original email address instead of the gmail account?

Kuma
7th August 2006, 10:14 AM
Yes... gmail will filter out the spam from .mac using Mail just create a POP account and download the email.. no problems there. (you can elect in gmail whether you want to keep a copy on the gmail server). and yes you can reply from your original address. 2 other things worth noting. If you use gmail (as a webbased client) all outgoing mail will be downloaded into your inbox (I guess that is the way gmail uses it mail services). You can also configure gmail with other email accounts and send from the gmail client from the other address that you want to use. hope this helps.

djjeffree
7th August 2006, 11:25 PM
Ive set up two of my email addresses now by forwarding to gmail and downloading the POP account into entourage and so far it seems to be working very well. Whats even better is when the email arrives into entourage it still shows which email account the email was sent to. I was worried the all the mail would be tagged with the gmail account it was forwarded to. I can then choose to reply with my original email address so others will have no idea that a gmail account was in the loop.

J.

knightcruiser
7th August 2006, 11:33 PM
I use the spam filters supplied by Netspace and I do not select SORBS ...

I visit Spamhaus and collect the top 10 domains and blacklist them ...
When the spam starts getting a bit much I update the list &#33;

I have given up telling people not to junk mail their email addresses to all and sundry with jokes etc.