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mainframe
26th May 2006, 09:13 PM
got it today

black macbook
80gig
2g RAM

it is flawless, no noises, no crashing, no dead pixels, been charging it since i got home to calibrate the battery and it is barely warm in the top left corner, and the rest of it is cool.

the trackpad button wasnt as crisp and responsive as id have like and when it made the lick sound you had to press harder to get it to respond, but i heard about somone having that problem on the apple discussions and they fixed it bu taking the battery out and pressing on the round circle for the trackpad button, and it has indeed fixed it.

it also wasnt very fast when i first turned it on.
but when i zapped the ram and varified and repaired permissions, it has become veeeerry snappy indeed and when i restart it starts up very quickly.

im sharing music and photos etc from my imac to this via front row, its pretty damn cool.

and i am definately glad i got the black, its gorgeous :D

woooo.

tintinaujapon
26th May 2006, 09:15 PM
Your trackpad makes lick sounds?

Steve's taking this 'good enough to eat' thing too far now.

macmate
26th May 2006, 09:19 PM
well the macbook pro do the cow sound (mooooo) the macbook does a cow lick

congrats on the macbook.

Ric

mainframe
26th May 2006, 09:44 PM
haww hawww

Click :P

titan44
26th May 2006, 10:05 PM
Congrats

I went into compnow in sth melb today to see a macbook first time in the flesh, i wasn't very keen on the blackbooks, but after seeing it, it's a very beautiful machine.

Lissay
26th May 2006, 10:05 PM
Can we have some pics? I can't get enough, I swear...

downsys
26th May 2006, 11:05 PM
i just read a review from someone who got the black macbook. in the beginning, when he first brought it home, his love for the black finish was priceless. a few days later he updated his review saying how much he hates the black finish, how it easily gets dirty and . he's also got some problems with his macbook now. maybe he wasn't too lucky.

hope your experiences differ though.

here's the review btw:
http://www.johnwaller.org/apple/macbook/

SoVeReIgN
26th May 2006, 11:06 PM
I got mine today too :)

http://users.bigpond.net.au/sovereign/macbook01.jpg
http://users.bigpond.net.au/sovereign/macbook02.jpg

dotmike
26th May 2006, 11:07 PM
Great news, mainframe! Sounds perfect.

Did you buy it from AppleCentre Hurstville?

Do you recommend them?

Quamen
26th May 2006, 11:18 PM
http://static.flickr.com/70/153587545_56aaa21a2c_o.jpgFlickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/quamen/153587545/)

El Guardo
26th May 2006, 11:32 PM
Black wins.

mainframe
27th May 2006, 12:02 AM
xp! BLASPHEMY!!!

haha....and yeah i got it from hurstville, yeah they seemed very quick and helpful :)

heresy11
27th May 2006, 12:17 AM
edit: double post

heresy11
27th May 2006, 12:28 AM
quamen, you have the same sheets as me.
if only it had a black macbook sitting on them.

Lissay
27th May 2006, 06:45 AM
Black definitely wins. Very nice indeed. Now make your bed, Quamen! ;)

vargz
27th May 2006, 08:05 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mainframe &#064; May 26 2006, 11&#58;32 PM) 176232</div>

xp&#33; BLASPHEMY&#33;&#33;&#33;
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LOL&#33; Yeah it appears to be XP on all three of displays - running on the two monitors and being installed on the MacBook. Someone is a glutton for punishment :lol:

EDIT - Yep Black wins... so sexy, so glossy but so pricey as well dammit&#33;

SoVeReIgN
27th May 2006, 08:12 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vargz &#064; May 27 2006, 08&#58;05 AM) 176271</div>

LOL&#33; Yeah it appears to be XP on all three of displays - running on the two monitors and being installed on the MacBook. Someone is a glutton for punishment :lol:

EDIT - Yep Black wins... so sexy, so glossy but so pricey as well dammit&#33;
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haha okay okay i apologise, but in my defense - I couldnt get a mini DV -> DVI converter anywhere yesterday, Apple Centre, Myer, David Jones... None had one :(

cgollner
27th May 2006, 08:38 AM
Congrats on your Macbook. That keyboard still concerns me. Let us know how it is. just looks wrong.

vargz
27th May 2006, 09:23 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SoVeReIgN &#064; May 27 2006, 07&#58;42 AM) 176273</div>

haha okay okay i apologise, but in my defense - I couldnt get a mini DV -> DVI converter anywhere yesterday, Apple Centre, Myer, David Jones... None had one :(
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Hehe...:) As much as I like Mac OS X, I don&#39;t hate Win XP. And yeah, when I get an intel Mac, I&#39;ll be putting Windows on it also (or at the very least using Windows apps on it), cos the reality is there as some things I need which OS X just can&#39;t do.

I find it annoying that they didn&#39;t include the video adapters with the MacBook, unlike the PBs that came with adapters to connect to both VGA and DVI displays. Might be quicker getting one from the Apple Store Online?

ialienam
27th May 2006, 10:11 AM
will you guys actually see a difference between MB and MBP (entry-level) when running non-GPU applications?? In theory, running office, 2D and daily stuff on both MB and MBP wouldn&#39;t have much difference (same CPU, HD rpm and memory).

My friend ordered a white one last Monday, will help her to install all sort of stuff, you guys reckon it would get here by end of this month?? even though, apply said it won&#39;t happen after 1st of June

mainframe
27th May 2006, 03:12 PM
the edges are seamless and perfect. there are no gaps or elevated areas whatsoever, the battery fits in 100% snug and tight, the screen doesnt make a noise or feel stiff when opening or closing.
even the power button is peeerrrffecccttllyy centred and depresses in the nicest way, it feels nicer to turn on by the power button than the powerbook did, even if the powerbooks button was sexy shiny metal.

the trackpad button is perfect now that i have pressed the circle insde under the battery and responds as it should

the keyboard took a while to adjust to because it is spaced more than i am used to with my desktop keyboard, but seriously....i LOVE this keyboard. i feel like i can type at double the speed than i could on a regular keyboard....it is VVVVVVVVVVVERY nice. infact all i heard when i was reading reviews on the keyboards is that people are really impressed with them. i dont think the keyboard is something for you to be worried about, once you adapt to its spacing which takes all of what....an hour or two? you will start to love it.
i think this is without a doubt THEEEEEEEEEEE best keyboard ive ever used. desktop AND notebook.

and i popped in the disc and custom installed the developer tools, CHUD tools. which gives you an extra option in the system preferances for PROCESSOR and you can click a box to make it show in the toolbar up the top which i have. which lets you shut down one of the core duo cores and operate on one processor, and monitor the processes being performed on each one etc. its cool :D

and dvds on this thing is incredible.
still no noises, no heat and no dead pixels.

i am thrilled with it :D

dRanged
27th May 2006, 08:27 PM
I tried to buy one in syd today - couldn&#39;t find a shop with stock :( Only the top and bottom models about. Apparently Monday :(.

Or of course maybe someone here can disprove this? B)

titan44
27th May 2006, 08:50 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dRanged &#064; May 27 2006, 08&#58;27 PM) 176417</div>

I tried to buy one in syd today - couldn&#39;t find a shop with stock :( Only the top and bottom models about. Apparently Monday :(.

Or of course maybe someone here can disprove this? B)
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I&#39;m in the same bucket as you dRanged, but i can&#39;t find any at all in melbourne, i&#39;ve rang around and emailed every store i could think of.

Maybe by next weekend.

Quamen
27th May 2006, 08:51 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cgollner &#064; May 27 2006, 08&#58;38 AM) 176275</div>

Congrats on your Macbook. That keyboard still concerns me. Let us know how it is. just looks wrong.
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The keyboard isn&#39;t a problem at all. In fact it&#39;s actually quite nice to use and the spacing of the keys isn&#39;t causing me a problem at all. The only adjustment I have had to make is not putting my finger too far to the left when typing the letter &#39;a&#39; because I was hitting the caps lock key a fair bit. But I&#39;ve adjusted to that now.

Wheels
27th May 2006, 09:11 PM
So the keyboard is much better than the PowerBook&#39;s keyboard?? I hate the PB one and also the Apple Keyboard I bought. I really should have gone for the MacAlley.

dotmike
27th May 2006, 09:12 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(titan44 &#064; May 27 2006, 08&#58;50 PM) 176419</div>

I&#39;m in the same bucket as you dRanged, but i can&#39;t find any at all in melbourne, i&#39;ve rang around and emailed every store i could think of.

Maybe by next weekend.
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Patience, they&#39;re coming&#33;

But if you know that you really want a certain machine, you could order it from the online Apple Store. That&#39;s usually the fastest way to get them.

It seems many of the seasoned Mac&#39;ers on this board do that, because they&#39;re always comparing their ship dates&#33;

Rayd
27th May 2006, 10:33 PM
i really dont like the black :P is it just me or does it look too PC-ish, not to mention the trackpad is too &#39;sticky&#39;

jeremy_warnock
27th May 2006, 11:18 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ipod_man &#064; May 27 2006, 10&#58;33 PM) 176438</div>

i really dont like the black :P is it just me or does it look too PC-ish, not to mention the trackpad is too &#39;sticky&#39;
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Agreed ipod_man - there are so many black laptops around itll just blend in with all the thinkpads others. Besides WHITE is the new black = white is cool B)

mainframe
28th May 2006, 12:05 AM
actually, i find most generic pc venders are starting to go silver and sometimes even white.
usually grey.

and if you mistake a macbook for a pc, then you&#39;re blind.

the trackpad is fine? not sticky at all
most trackpads perform better after some use anyway, when they smooth down and dont have the matte finish on them when brand new.

forgie
28th May 2006, 02:16 AM
You people with your "the black looks too PCish" really need to get some perspective....

you all sound a tad pretentious, like you only want a mac to feel special. Just my opinion.....

jeremy_warnock
28th May 2006, 09:51 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(forgie &#064; May 28 2006, 02&#58;16 AM) 176481</div>

You people with your "the black looks too PCish" really need to get some perspective....

you all sound a tad pretentious, like you only want a mac to feel special. Just my opinion.....
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Each to their own opinion forgie - i support an office with 200 black hp dc7100 desktops and 50 black ibm r52 think pads - for me the white is a nice change.

jeremy_warnock
28th May 2006, 09:57 AM
What spec&#39;s are you guys ordering - i know mainframe went for the 2gigs about what about others did you go for the standard ram, the 1 gig or the 2?? &#036;700 odd for 2 seems pricy is it justified guys???

geektechnu
28th May 2006, 11:20 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jeremy_warnock &#064; May 28 2006, 10&#58;27 AM) 176512</div>

What spec&#39;s are you guys ordering - i know mainframe went for the 2gigs about what about others did you go for the standard ram, the 1 gig or the 2?? &#036;700 odd for 2 seems pricy is it justified guys???
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First thing - all intel macs use PC2-5300 SODIMM (667Mhz), so we should be able to look at other brands of RAM.

Street price for 2gig of PC-5300 SODIMM right now?
- Nintek is sells Apple compatible Crucial 1gb&#39;s for &#036;235.00
- MacOnline has the same RRP, but has it on sale for &#036;185 (unknown brand)

I&#39;d say depending on brand, 2gb is worth less than &#036;600.
Given that Apple gets to keep the orginal 512mb, it&#39;s only really worth &#036;500-550 max.
This also factors in the cost of installation (as it&#39;s so easy on the macbook).

All up, if you buy the RAM seperately (and pay for shipping), you&#39;ll still save a significant amount.

Squozen
28th May 2006, 11:31 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wheels &#064; May 27 2006, 09&#58;11 PM) 176423</div>

So the keyboard is much better than the PowerBook&#39;s keyboard?? I hate the PB one and also the Apple Keyboard I bought. I really should have gone for the MacAlley.
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Whaaa..? The PowerBook keyboard is the best notebook keyboard I&#39;ve ever used*. What in your opinion is better?

* Current winner for worst notebook keyboard goes to HP/Compaq - stiff and unresponsive.

Quamen
28th May 2006, 11:33 AM
I bought a stock Black Macbook.

120GB hard drive and 2GB of memory are on their way.

Extra cost &#036;560

titan44
28th May 2006, 12:29 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dotmike &#064; May 27 2006, 09&#58;12 PM) 176424</div>

Patience, they&#39;re coming&#33;

But if you know that you really want a certain machine, you could order it from the online Apple Store. That&#39;s usually the fastest way to get them.

It seems many of the seasoned Mac&#39;ers on this board do that, because they&#39;re always comparing their ship dates&#33;
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True, bu ti prefer to the experience of picking it up & driving it home.

mwidjaya
28th May 2006, 12:44 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(titan44 &#064; May 28 2006, 12&#58;29 PM) 176555</div>

True, bu ti prefer to the experience of picking it up & driving it home.
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Admittedly, nothing beats instant gratification. I ordered online because that was the only way I could use corporate discount. So have been "sitting in a corner shredding papers" while waiting for the Macbook to ship. :-(

mainframe
28th May 2006, 09:30 PM
my 2 gigs cost 389.
cause they did it at the apple centre, not tbo by apple :)

mac_man_luke
28th May 2006, 09:42 PM
Thats pretty good mainframe - which apple centre?

Also Quamen where are you buying your ram from and how much is it costing? how much for the drive?

voss
28th May 2006, 09:56 PM
To all the smirking faces and the boys in black
Why can&#39;t they be pleasant?
Why can&#39;t they have a laugh?
He&#39;s got his hand in your chest
He wants to give you a duff
Well secretly I think they want it all to kick off
They want, arms flying everywhere and
Bottles as well it&#39;s just
Something to talk about
A story to tell you

Yessums black takes the hand.

vargz
28th May 2006, 11:10 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Quamen &#064; May 28 2006, 11&#58;03 AM) 176534</div>

I bought a stock Black Macbook.

120GB hard drive and 2GB of memory are on their way.

Extra cost &#036;560
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Are you upgrading the hdd and ram yourself or going back to the reseller? Sounds like a good price.

forgie
28th May 2006, 11:26 PM
You people all know about staticICE (http://www.staticice.com.au), right? Type in "1gb 5300 ddr so dimm" and it&#39;ll find you the best prices. Don&#39;t worry, you can only get DDR2 RAM in that speed AFAIK.

Then try "120gb SATA 2.5" for the HDD.

I can get a total price of &#036;501 for 120GB + 2GB RAM. That&#39;s not including shipping, and from 2 different places (A.I. Tech for the HDD, Jantech computeres for the RAM).

staticICE is your friend.... I&#39;m going to wait for rev B/Merom (August hopefully) before I get me a macbook.

vargz
29th May 2006, 10:25 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(forgie &#064; May 28 2006, 10&#58;56 PM) 176764</div>

I&#39;m going to wait for rev B/Merom (August hopefully) before I get me a macbook.
[/b]
Do you think the next revision will come out so soon? A minor update maybe...but a major revision plus change of processor?&#33;... Just seems too soon.

Quasar
29th May 2006, 11:11 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vargz &#064; May 29 2006, 10&#58;25 AM) 176813</div>

Do you think the next revision will come out so soon? A minor update maybe...but a major revision plus change of processor?&#33;... Just seems too soon.
[/b]

Whilst the meron is a drop in replacement, I really think Apple will keep that for MBP. At least for a while.

mwidjaya
29th May 2006, 11:33 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Quasar &#064; May 29 2006, 11&#58;11 AM) 176840</div>

Whilst the meron is a drop in replacement, I really think Apple will keep that for MBP. At least for a while.
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I agree. That sounds right.

Wally
29th May 2006, 11:52 AM
No more waiting for me thanks&#33;

invisible
31st May 2006, 12:58 AM
I received my macbook today&#33;

however, after a short burst of adulation i think ive stumbled upon a patch of buyers remorse.

Well, the fanís switching on and off and on and off.. mooing like a mechanical cow giving me the water torture. Even with music playing it comes through.
Apps under Rosetta run painfully slow (all the major ones: flash, dreamweaver, photoshop, toast, word) Ė much slower even than on my 1.5Ghz PB.

So yeah. Itís a beautiful computer, but I feel ive jumped the gun before these apps are native and the rev A cow sounds settle down.

*sigh.

downsys
31st May 2006, 01:25 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(forgie &#064; May 28 2006, 11&#58;26 PM) 176764</div>

You people all know about staticICE (http://www.staticice.com.au), right? Type in "1gb 5300 ddr so dimm" and it&#39;ll find you the best prices. Don&#39;t worry, you can only get DDR2 RAM in that speed AFAIK.

Then try "120gb SATA 2.5" for the HDD.

I can get a total price of &#036;501 for 120GB + 2GB RAM. That&#39;s not including shipping, and from 2 different places (A.I. Tech for the HDD, Jantech computeres for the RAM).

staticICE is your friend.... I&#39;m going to wait for rev B/Merom (August hopefully) before I get me a macbook.
[/b]

careful with staticice. there are 1gb sticks with that spec from Corsair and it isn&#39;t yet Apple compatible. sure, same specs, but it won&#39;t work all that well, as clarified by Corsair themselves (they&#39;re trying to contact Apple to resolve the issues)

anyway, i&#39;d like to ask if this harddrive would work with the macbook:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BRAND-NEW-120GB-LAP...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BRAND-NEW-120GB-LAPTOP-NOTEBOOK-HARD-DISK-DRIVE_W0QQitemZ6884530948QQcategoryZ31567QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

mwot
31st May 2006, 09:03 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(invisible &#064; May 31 2006, 12&#58;58 AM) 177513</div>

...
however, after a short burst of adulation i think ive stumbled upon a patch of buyers remorse.
...
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Aside from the performance hit, which I was expecting to a degree, especially as I bought mine with stock 512mb RAM, the optical drive on my MacBook sounds a bit clunky. You can really hear it click and clunk away - the whirring of the disk is normal, tho. Anyone else find this?

Anyway, I&#39;ll give it some time before I pass judegement. Have only really just switched the thing on and loaded a few apps (Office, EyeTV2, Accordance so far, none of which are native so will all run under Rosetta) in the past couple of nights without really giving it a thorough test drive.

Being used to the whizziness of my iMac G5, I will certainly be maxing out the RAM on my MacBook as soon as possible.

Lovely little device. I don&#39;t see the screen as being an issue; however, Apple should pack a cleaning cloth with these things - they sure do show every little smidge and smudge of the inevitable finger prints on screen, on casing, etc.

Just waiting on delivery of my bitlothic protection pack before I start tucking this machine away into my briefcase to bring it&#39;s portability to life&#33; :D

Newbie
31st May 2006, 03:31 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mwot &#064; May 31 2006, 09&#58;03 AM) 177541</div>

Aside from the performance hit, which I was expecting to a degree, especially as I bought mine with stock 512mb RAM, the optical drive on my MacBook sounds a bit clunky. You can really hear it click and clunk away - the whirring of the disk is normal, tho. Anyone else find this?[/b]

My optical drive you do hear it whizzing when the cd is in and all that kinda stuff but it&#39;s not that loud but not having anything to compare it to I wasn&#39;t quite sure what to expect :( but I&#39;m loving my Macbook although I do only have stock white 1.83ghz standard :unsure:

gizo
31st May 2006, 03:35 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(invisible &#064; May 31 2006, 12&#58;58 AM) 177513</div>

..... like a mechanical cow giving me the water torture. .....
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what an amazing imagery. priceless. thankyou.

purana
31st May 2006, 03:42 PM
I&#39;ll further confirm some things, although I dont have a Macbook this applies to intel duo machine with 512mb ram.

If you can afford it, get more ram. The default shipped machines with 512mb swap like crazy with only a few apps running. My mac mini duo would swap when running, xchat aqua, adium, apple mail, apple safari... you were left with about 9mb of ram. Which means it would swap soon after badly.

And of course its apps that are not native, soon as an app needs rosetta you loose a good chunk of memory. So by all means look to getting more ram and dont settle for 512mb default.

My suggestion would be to get a single 512mb chip with whatever machine you get, if it comes with 2 x 256&#39;s, pay extra for the single chip. As 256mb chips are worth nothing should you have to sell and replace. But with a single 512 you can atleast go buy another for a modest price and run 2 x 512&#39;s.

My 1gb memory chips arrived today via courier from QLD, so I will be installing one into my mac mini tonight and another in my wifes macbook pro.

I can&#39;t put up with paging of memory any longer.