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kyte
7th April 2013, 07:05 PM
I've got a decent Mini for today's computing and also the usual iPad/iPhone combo, but I am finding that when I want to play some older games that I own, I can't, because I can't install Leopard or Snow Leopard, both of which I own, into a virtual machine. Its server only, and I dont have those. Its a royal pain in the you know what.

So, what I would like to know is wheres the best place for acquiring G4/G5 stuff. I have a screen which I use with the mini, so would only be wanting either an old Mini or an old tower. I've seen the freebies offered and am constantly annoyed that they only seem to turn up in Melbourne, which is just a tad far away from me.

Second hand minis and towers... where?

nibbles
7th April 2013, 07:42 PM
To little too late - I just disposed of around 20 G5 iMacs of varying conditions though there might still be one kicking around. I'll have a look tomorrow if you're interested in driving down this way.

mmulhern
7th April 2013, 07:46 PM
With VirtualBox you can select to install OSX10.6 server, but happily install 10.6 standard. I've installed from a 10.6.3 install DVD both on my MacMini and Ubuntu Server.

As to G4 or G5 cheap stuff comes up on eBay every now and again. Just recently got a non working G5 PowerMac for $25, and 1 weekend later, a perfectly good machine running 10.5.8.

Oldmacs
7th April 2013, 08:13 PM
eBay :)

Apple Mac Mini G4 1.42ghz with WiFi | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Apple-Mac-Mini-G4-1-42ghz-with-WiFi-/261195750969?pt=AU_Computers_Apple_Desktops&hash=item3cd07ade39&_uhb=1#ht_2450wt_1156)

Only problem is that that is a bit expensive for what it is!

You could get something like this:
Apple Macbook 2007 13.3" - boots up. keyboard & cd rom not working. for parts | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Apple-Macbook-2007-13-3-boots-up-keyboard-cd-rom-not-working-for-parts-/151022559448?pt=AU_Computers_Apple_Laptops_Noteboo ks&hash=item2329a560d8&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1219)

You could leave it connected up to the screen and use as a desktop. Plus because it is a newer machine you can run Snow leopard and run the Power PC programs really fast!

leon
7th April 2013, 09:17 PM
What games are you trying to play that require Leopard or Snow Leopard? I'm assuming they're PPC games?

kyte
8th April 2013, 10:36 PM
With VirtualBox you can select to install OSX10.6 server, but happily install 10.6 standard. I've installed from a 10.6.3 install DVD both on my MacMini and Ubuntu Server.

As to G4 or G5 cheap stuff comes up on eBay every now and again. Just recently got a non working G5 PowerMac for $25, and 1 weekend later, a perfectly good machine running 10.5.8.

I'll try again on VB to install, but when I did (it did detect it, but as a server) it then refused to go any further because it was not actually the server.

I'll keep looking at ebay. A tower might be OK, I have a tower space not being used due to relinquishing Windows some 10 years ago, but still having the shitty desk.

kyte
8th April 2013, 10:36 PM
What games are you trying to play that require Leopard or Snow Leopard? I'm assuming they're PPC games?

Yep. ONly a couple, which is why I'd be happier if Leopard would gracefully install in a virtual machine.

kyte
8th April 2013, 10:37 PM
eBay :)

Apple Mac Mini G4 1.42ghz with WiFi | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Apple-Mac-Mini-G4-1-42ghz-with-WiFi-/261195750969?pt=AU_Computers_Apple_Desktops&hash=item3cd07ade39&_uhb=1#ht_2450wt_1156)

Only problem is that that is a bit expensive for what it is!

You could get something like this:
Apple Macbook 2007 13.3" - boots up. keyboard & cd rom not working. for parts | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Apple-Macbook-2007-13-3-boots-up-keyboard-cd-rom-not-working-for-parts-/151022559448?pt=AU_Computers_Apple_Laptops_Noteboo ks&hash=item2329a560d8&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1219)

You could leave it connected up to the screen and use as a desktop. Plus because it is a newer machine you can run Snow leopard and run the Power PC programs really fast!

Thanks fr the headsup, I'll keep looking :)

mmulhern
9th April 2013, 07:48 AM
I'll try again on VB to install, but when I did (it did detect it, but as a server) it then refused to go any further because it was not actually the server.

Just make sure your install DVD is for 10.6.3+ I had to track down and buy two 10.6.3 install DVDs for my virtual machines as I've I've found that the original 10.6.0 install media does not work/install into a VirtualBox VM.

kyte
9th April 2013, 03:55 PM
Just make sure your install DVD is for 10.6.3+ I had to track down and buy two 10.6.3 install DVDs for my virtual machines as I've I've found that the original 10.6.0 install media does not work/install into a VirtualBox VM.

There ya go. Mine is a 10.6. I bought it on release day

fleegle
11th April 2013, 01:20 PM
Would an old G4 iBook be suitable? I'm pretty sure it was one of the last PPC models. It's got some minor cosmetic issues, but last I checked it all worked.

rpjallan
11th April 2013, 05:11 PM
Is it possible to clone a 10.6 installation into a virtual machine with, say, CCC?

Orestes
12th April 2013, 02:03 PM
Is it possible to clone a 10.6 installation into a virtual machine with, say, CCC?

VirtualBox is fine and all, but it doesn't really support proper 3D hardware acceleration. If you're wanting to run PPC OSX binaries, the machine need not be that old either. An intel machine with a Core i3/5/7 processor from around 2011 will still boot just fine into Snow Leopard.

If you want to run OS9 binaries that's a different issue, in which case you'll need at bare minimum of a G5 mac if you want a hardware solution, or alternatively you can look at Sheep Shaver and run it on your current Mac which will handle any System 7 to OS 9 games.

kyte
13th April 2013, 11:28 AM
Thanks all, the games I wanted were old gamehouse and popcap games and I have found PC versions now which I am running inside a Windows 7 VM. I'd rather go native Mac but its not to be, for now, and works well enough.

rpjallan
13th April 2013, 02:58 PM
This link might be useful to someone looking in this thread:

Virtualization: Questions (http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/virtualization/topic4198-001.html#item.170542)