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imacattack
30th December 2012, 02:19 PM
Looking to put a Linux OS on one of the G5's I have and with so many around I don't know what is the best one to run on a G5 2.0GHz model. ?

Pismo
30th December 2012, 04:28 PM
Ubuntu is the*easiest**to setup and use you are going to have use an early version of it
as now it only runs on intel version 8 may be cant*really*let they stopped with PPC i stopped playing with ver 5
a quick google will tell you

mmulhern
30th December 2012, 05:50 PM
Linux MintPPC | fast and slick Linux for PPC computers (http://mintppc.org/)

imacattack
30th December 2012, 06:07 PM
Linux MintPPC | fast and slick Linux for PPC computers (http://mintppc.org/)

Looks like the guy stopped working on that in 2011 when his G4 broke.

Linux is not looking promising for the PPC these days how very sad.

mmulhern
30th December 2012, 06:24 PM
If you wanted to go older than PPC to 68K, then this one is interesting

Resurrecting m68k - We're on track again! | blog.windfluechter.net (http://blog.windfluechter.net/content/blog/2012/12/25/1564-resurrecting-m68k-were-track-again)

imacattack
30th December 2012, 08:10 PM
If you wanted to go older than PPC to 68K, then this one is interesting

Resurrecting m68k - We're on track again! | blog.windfluechter.net (http://blog.windfluechter.net/content/blog/2012/12/25/1564-resurrecting-m68k-were-track-again)

If it's not properly supported and not easy to install then I won't be interested and it looks like linux has given up on PPC from what I see so far.

Some have download links for PPC but after you select them they ask what system it is for and PPC is missing in the list of selections even thou they still have PPC upfront.

bljpoad
30th December 2012, 08:24 PM
I guess my question would be what do you want to use it for? If you want to use it as a day-to-day desktop, I have always been a bit of a fan of OpenSuse, but I am not sure if their PPC port is still active. If you combine it with a lightweight DE it is ok for most tasks.

I did have OpenBSD running for a while on my G5 (4.8 I think....could be wrong), but I don't know if that is something you want to try or not.

imacattack
30th December 2012, 10:45 PM
I guess my question would be what do you want to use it for? If you want to use it as a day-to-day desktop, I have always been a bit of a fan of OpenSuse, but I am not sure if their PPC port is still active. If you combine it with a lightweight DE it is ok for most tasks.

I did have OpenBSD running for a while on my G5 (4.8 I think....could be wrong), but I don't know if that is something you want to try or not.

OpenSuse looks like the go but same thing again they have a link to download PPC but click on it and nothing there ???

And yes looking for something as a day to day desktop machine.

UPDATE:-
I found this site Linux Freedom - Complete Computer Freedom (http://linuxfreedom.com/) which has download links to PPC versions so I might have some luck here.

bljpoad
31st December 2012, 12:59 PM
OpenSuse looks like the go but same thing again they have a link to download PPC but click on it and nothing there ???
You can get the netinstall image from here:
Index of /ports/ppc/factory/iso (http://download.opensuse.org/ports/ppc/factory/iso/)
Index of /ports/ppc/distribution/12.2/iso (http://download.opensuse.org/ports/ppc/distribution/12.2/iso/)

The links I saw on Linux Freedom were mostly for old (2008-2010) distributions, so starting with a net install and pointing it to a PPC repository like:
Index of /ports/ppc/factory/repo/oss (http://download.opensuse.org/ports/ppc/factory/repo/oss/)

will probably get you a reasonably modern system. I don't think there are many current distros that will get you going straight out of the box though :(

imacattack
31st December 2012, 01:22 PM
You can get the netinstall image from here:
Index of /ports/ppc/factory/iso (http://download.opensuse.org/ports/ppc/factory/iso/)
Index of /ports/ppc/distribution/12.2/iso (http://download.opensuse.org/ports/ppc/distribution/12.2/iso/)

The links I saw on Linux Freedom were mostly for old (2008-2010) distributions, so starting with a net install and pointing it to a PPC repository like:
Index of /ports/ppc/factory/repo/oss (http://download.opensuse.org/ports/ppc/factory/repo/oss/)

will probably get you a reasonably modern system. I don't think there are many current distros that will get you going straight out of the box though :(

Thanks for those links 12.2 for ppc and after all the reading it's only meant to be for intel machines only ???

I am also reading that Yellow Dog might be the best one and still support ppc machines for now but the site is down till 8th Jan 2013 :-(

UPDATE:-
Having trouble doing the install with openSUSE can not find any instruction on how to install it.

Byrd
1st January 2013, 06:48 AM
Looks like the guy stopped working on that in 2011 when his G4 broke

Have you actually tried it? It's "only" one year old, the forum support for this distro is excellent, looks like the easiest way to get Linux onto a PPC.

imacattack
1st January 2013, 10:27 AM
Have you actually tried it? It's "only" one year old, the forum support for this distro is excellent, looks like the easiest way to get Linux onto a PPC.

After reading the instructions doesn't look easy.

Byrd
1st January 2013, 12:42 PM
Installation instructions MintPPC 11 | Linux MintPPC (http://www.mintppc.org/content/installation-instructions-mintppc-11)

I can't stand Linux, but this doesn't look difficult. Burn the ISO for G5 processors, then let it install what it needs online.

Going to try it now on my G5 Quad :)

JB

imacattack
1st January 2013, 01:00 PM
Installation instructions MintPPC 11 | Linux MintPPC (http://www.mintppc.org/content/installation-instructions-mintppc-11)

I can't stand Linux, but this doesn't look difficult. Burn the ISO for G5 processors, then let it install what it needs online.

Going to try it now on my G5 Quad :)

JB

I just managed to install it on one of my G5's it got installed but is not usable as by the looks it does not like the video card half the text's are missing or I get blue screens etc.

neoxide
2nd January 2013, 08:28 PM
I haven't used linux on a mac before (properly, at least), but I used to have a small tonne of PPC Ubuntu discs. I guess if you could find an old distro, that'd work well?

There's a laptop in a lab office at my uni that they use for guests' (undergrad research students) daily tasks - a TiBook running Ubuntu.

imacattack
4th January 2013, 09:09 PM
Not having luck with linux either the Mint or openSUSE I'm not getting any help from there so called support forums at all. I found out how to get the installer working for openSUSE 12.2 and it installed but it won't boot for some reason ??

kyte
4th January 2013, 09:39 PM
On an older machine, I would be looking at an older distro. Here's a list of whats still available from Ubuntu... Not sure I'd recommend going past 11.04 at the very most, but there they are for trying out. Its worth joining the forums at Ubuntu Forums (http://ubuntuforums.org) and hanging out in the Apple Users forum.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads

You might also want to look at the following links
PowerPCKnownIssues (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues)
PowerPCFAQ (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ)

imacattack
5th January 2013, 02:29 PM
I just wiped openSUSE as I was getting zero help from there support forum instead being told to get a PC and dump the Apple computers the jerks.

I downloaded Lubunto 12.10 for PPC for the G5 and I am just getting the same thing again this time I get a command line did what it told me to type and started loading and another command line pops up and have no clue what I am meant to type. As far as I understand it should just load up a test boot for me to try out and if I want to install it onto a drive.

Pismo
5th January 2013, 04:22 PM
Try typing live it should load and then should see the interface to try it out with out installing any thing then if you decide to install you will see
the install icon on the desktop this is how it is with Ubuntu. not sure if this will work with Lubunto 12.10 i have never looked at that version of Linux
Lubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) Daily Build (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/) here is a link it is a later version supposed be a live version

imacattack
5th January 2013, 05:53 PM
Try typing live it should load and then should see the interface to try it out with out installing any thing then if you decide to install you will see
the install icon on the desktop this is how it is with Ubuntu. not sure if this will work with Lubunto 12.10 i have never looked at that version of Linux

Yeah I typed "live" as it told me to it started loading but then I got another command line it didn't load the OS.

Here is the image of the command line I get :-

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/AussieHolden/20130105_191259.jpg

Pismo
5th January 2013, 06:33 PM
go back to the download site and check to see if there is a live version download with Ubuntu there are several ISO files some are install only
maybe it the same with the version you are using sorry i cant be more helpfull

imacattack
5th January 2013, 06:47 PM
go back to the download site and check to see if there is a live version download with Ubuntu there are several ISO files some are install only
maybe it the same with the version you are using sorry i cant be more helpfull

That is the live version ?

Desktop live install CD, alternate install CD

Lubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/)

Mac (PowerPC) and IBM-PPC (POWER5) desktop image
For Apple Macintosh G3, G4, and G5 computers, including iBooks and PowerBooks as well as IBM OpenPower machines.

Yuri
5th January 2013, 06:54 PM
The correct image is in the desktop image section at the top of the screen, have you tried typing (without the quotes) 'live video=ofonly'
Apparently that is used to correct video issues, might be worth a shot.

imacattack
5th January 2013, 07:03 PM
The correct image is in the desktop image section at the top of the screen, have you tried typing (without the quotes) 'live video=ofonly'
Apparently that is used to correct video issues, might be worth a shot.

Yes that was the exact line I typed and after that it started loading and then came up with what you see in the image above.

Lubuntu@lubuntu:~$

Yuri
5th January 2013, 07:28 PM
Yes that was the exact line I typed and after that it started loading and then came up with what you see in the image above.

Lubuntu@lubuntu:~$

Perhaps try the later version that Pismo suggested, might have fixed the issues in the next release?


Try typing live it should load and then should see the interface to try it out with out installing any thing then if you decide to install you will see
the install icon on the desktop this is how it is with Ubuntu. not sure if this will work with Lubunto 12.10 i have never looked at that version of Linux
Lubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) Daily Build (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/) here is a link it is a later version supposed be a live version

imacattack
8th January 2013, 04:21 PM
Perhaps try the later version that Pismo suggested, might have fixed the issues in the next release?

I got the same result so I have now moved onto Yellow Dog 6.2 it's the last release they have and I am currently downloading it it is meant to be the best out of the bunch from what I have been reading I guess I will find out if I have issues with it or not.

Orestes
16th January 2013, 12:32 AM
Another vote for Lubuntu, or if you want real commercial level support then a Debian based distro is pretty much your only option. While Ubuntu is community based, it is a Debian based distro, so has Debian updates rolled into it.

As far as app support goes, the software centre, synaptic and aptget are nice and being Ubuntu based you have pretty much the largest amount of software and access to repositories that you're going to get on PPC.

Unfortunately, it is what it is though, PPC is pretty much dead and whats not already receiving a fork, or source based won't be coming to PPC, this means you're stuck in a similiar situation to OS X and no Flash at all, rather than just an outdated version, you'll have to put up with Gnash. No Chrome and either only Firefox, or Webkit based browsers and a fairly limited, though complete enough for most tasks, software repository.

The good news is for all of this you get current and up to date versions of most media players such as VLC and most web based stuff you'd be familiar with such as current Transmission and the super bonus of current Firefox updates. The bad news is no real Office software alternatives with any decent amount of document compatibility excepting rudimentary levels. Linux on PPC IS NOT a valid option if you need Office for Business or tertiary level academic studies and Gimp is no alternative to Photoshop if you need Photoshop for business purposes. There is no option of running Wine either as x86/AMD64 is a completely different CPU arch. The alternative is Mac-On-Linux for a PPC virtual machine, or if you need windows an emulator such as Bochs.

LXDE will run lighter than OS X 10.5, but at the cost of viable software alternatives for most things and to be truthful about the facts Mac-On-Linux is pretty much dead with no recent updates. After using Debian 6 for a while I just ended up finding OS X was a better option on PPC. While some software may not be current, it is at least compatible.

If you're having video issues you may have to try the alternative text based installer. If you're still having video problems after you've installed, you really need to play around with your Xorg configuration... something like pico /etc/xorg.conf. You should be able to find a working Xorg configuration script for your specific machine on the internet, RTFM :sick:

Also use a current version of whatever distro you choose as it will have the latest stability/security updates. Old hardware, is no excuse for using an old distro.