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    Default Mac App/Program for monitoring net download traffic across all networked devices?

    My partner and her two kids recently moved in. The 16 year old boy is being a typical teenager and 'doing' things he's been asked not to do. Once such thing is downloading (and torrents I might add, but thats another topic! )at times during the evening when my partner needs the full download/upload speed for the work. Of course he says he isn't but 'we know' different. I run iStat Pro as a widget but am wondering if there are any recommendations out there for a prog or app that will list ALL devices, both wired and wirelessly connected to the network, that shows what each machine is doing in terms of net access? And if one even has a 'kill switch' that would be even better!!!

    Thanking you guys in advance.

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    I understand your problem, but killing torrenting 16-year-olds is still illegal in most Australian states, unless you are Warner Brothers, Disney etc.

    I don't know of a system wide monitor, but it is possible to give limited access via Airport Utility under Access Control, where you can control the hours the offending machine gets air time.

    Maybe that would work?

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    Cheers mate,
    I should've pointed out that his machine is an inherited PC/Windows 7. With the exception of iPads/iPhones, everything else on my network is hardwired. The Airport utility only gives me Access Control to any wired/wireless Apple product on my network, such as my Airport Express.
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    what router do you use?

    http://192.168.0.1/start.htm

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    Im on Vivid Wireless and using their home gateway . Yeah I Was thinking just seeing whats available through the gateways menus, but for me, an app would be ideal. IF I have to resort to that, then so be it!

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    I haven't used either but they may give you some control

    Path Analyzer Pro :

    * Research IP addresses, e-mail addresses, and network paths
    * Pinpoint and troubleshoot network availability and performance issues
    * Determine what ISP, router, or server is responsible for a network problem
    * Locate firewalls and other filters that may be impacting your connections
    * Visually analyze a network's path characteristics
    * Graph protocol latency, jitter and other factors
    * Trace actual applications and ports, not just IP hops
    * Generate, print, and export a variety of impressive reports
    * Perform continuous and timed tests with real-time reporting and history

    ProteMac NetMine 2.0

    This is more like "Little Snitch" for your computer traffic not strictly what you are after but you may be able to restrict what the little bugger can connect to etc
    The Protemac website has a lot of other utilities and worth a browse.
    Both are applications and you can download free trials of them to see whether they are suitable.

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    K9 Web Protection for Windows would probably stop this.

    K9 Web Protection - Free Internet Filter and Parental Control Software | Free Internet Filtering and Parental Controls Software

    Hopefully you can get access to the system that will allow you to install this software on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrology View Post
    Cheers mate,
    I should've pointed out that his machine is an inherited PC/Windows 7. With the exception of iPads/iPhones, everything else on my network is hardwired. The Airport utility only gives me Access Control to any wired/wireless Apple product on my network, such as my Airport Express.
    The smart move is to either hard wire him into the Airport hardware or to wifi him on to it. Then you've got the control features of the Airport system to limit him. Of course, the real simple method is that you remove the computer from where he has privacy and put it in a place where you have oversight of what's going on.
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    Hey all,
    Possibly MRTG will do what you want, but looks like a bit of work to setup on OS X. I've configured and run it on Windows in the past, so you maybe be able to set it up on the 16yr olds PC, and monitor it though a web interface. MRTG - Tobi Oetiker's MRTG - The Multi Router Traffic Grapher
    I am looking to install it on our Mac's here for no other reason than "just because". If I get it ticking over, I'll let you know.

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    There's actually two parts to this problem.

    First, there's the monitoring software - MRTG does it, it's newer iteration as RRDTool will do it with added front-end visualizers (like Cricket), there are other choices out there too.

    However, having something that'll monitor the traffic is only going to work if you can see the traffic in the first place. If you're using a switch (or router, which will usually use switch technology for ethernet/wired ports) a computer connected to one port won't be able to see the traffic destined to another port. That's the whole idea behind why switches are better than hubs.

    In the business world there's two normal ways around this - use a switch that supports having a port in "promiscuous mode" where that port will spy on all traffic passing through the switch (not all that common on consumer-grade gear) or put a device between the switch and the up-stream router (not all that practical if you're using a modem/router/switch in a single device).

    If neither of these is an option then you're down to relying on software installed on each computer reporting back to a central repository. The usual way of achieving this is using SNMP. You'll need to specifically enable SNMP on each computer (and may need additional software to collect the right data and make it available via SNMP) and then you'll need to run a collector - this is where MRTG, RRDTool/Cricket and others come in.

    I haven't looked at the level of SNMP support in Windows for some time so I don't know how well it supports the relevant bits.

    For further background try:

    Simple Network Management Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Heh, just unplug the cable that goes to his computer from the router whilst you need full speed.

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    Not sure if you're still having this problem but if you are, you may find this app useful:

    Examinet

    It doesn't answer the question of _what_ each person is doing but it does show your Internet activity in real-time, which may help.
    Last edited by EpaL; 30th January 2012 at 12:07 AM.

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    Knock up a fake letter from Warner/Disney/whatever movie studio/all of the above (ie multiple letters) in Photoshop.

    Nice scary legal threat, reminding you of possible imprisonment. Don't make a big deal of it - just leave it somewhere where he'll find it.

    Search the net and find some news articles about people that have copped the nasty side of studios. Print them out, and leave them with the nasty letter(s). Maybe an article or two on male rape that happens in prisons, for some added drama.

    (And don't let him see this post!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrology View Post
    My partner and her two kids recently moved in. The 16 year old boy is being a typical teenager and 'doing' things he's been asked not to do. Once such thing is downloading (and torrents I might add, but thats another topic! )at times during the evening when my partner needs the full download/upload speed for the work. Of course he says he isn't but 'we know' different. I run iStat Pro as a widget but am wondering if there are any recommendations out there for a prog or app that will list ALL devices, both wired and wirelessly connected to the network, that shows what each machine is doing in terms of net access? And if one even has a 'kill switch' that would be even better!!!

    Thanking you guys in advance.
    I can see that this question was asked awhile ago. However, it's probably still relevant for many parents searching for Mac parental control software for monitoring net download traffic across all networked devices. Take a look at Intego's Internet Security Barrier X6, which is normally a Mac app for internet security; some of its features sound a lot like what you need. I highlighted the important stuff in bold, so you can easily see the Mac parental control features I think you might be interested in.

    Features - (from the ContentBarrier tab):

    Blocks and filters all offensive material from the Internet
    Customizable profiles - if you have several children, you can adjust the settings for their age and maturity
    Seamless interface with Mac OS X user accounts
    Setup assistant simplifies user configuration
    Adjustable levels of protection
    Overview screen shows all user settings
    Pre-determined filters for safe and easy content filtering
    Web site blocking—block or allow specific web sites
    Full recording of activity: sites visited, sites blocked, chats, e-mail, applications, screenshots and keystrokes
    Prevents external disks and volumes from mounting
    Remote web administration from any computer
    Quick enabling/disabling of protection for each user
    Add user photos for easy recognition and configuration
    Blocks streaming media, newsgroups and peer-to-peer software
    Blocks chats and e-mail
    Blocks selected applications
    Filters protocols such as FTP/SFTP, SSH, SSL and online games
    Start and stop time limits from the Intego menu
    Instant authorization for blocked sites
    Automatic search engine redirection
    Limits Internet access by day and time
    AntiPredator function to block predatory language in chat sessions
    Detailed logs of each user’s Internet usage
    Traffic data recorded for an overview of Internet use
    Only authorized users can change program settings
    Automatic updates with NetUpdate
    Automatic e-mail notification of certain events
    User manual in the Help menu

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    If you're relying on software installed on the computer that's being used by the person you want to monitor/control then be aware that they might actually be smarter than you think and will work out how to circumvent locally installed software. This is all too common from what I see - the number of school kids I talk to who know how to access the admin network at their schools and/or by-pass parental controls on their own computers is quite high.

    There's not really and "set and forget" solution to this type of problem.

    If you're serious about having good control/oversight on what's going on be prepared to learn a lot about how computers and networks operate. You'll need pretty good knowledge and on-going effort to keep any solution effective.

    David


 

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