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    Default Bought a blocked/stolen iPhone. What are my options?

    Hey guys,
    Recently purchased an 8GB 3G iPhone off OCAU about a week ago, but only got to start using it today. Buyer said it was in great condition and it was working fine on the Optus network.
    Tried to make a call this afternoon and got the message that the handset was blocked by the Optus network. I checked the ATMA website and sure enough, it has been blocked since Dec 23, 2009. I stupidly didn't request this before paying for it, I guess I have been too trusting of people on here and there recently.
    Rang Optus, and they said only the original owner can request for the block to be removed.

    What are my options? Pretty annoyed about it all. I admit it was my fault for not checking the IMEI prior to purchase but wondering what I can do from here? Have contacted the seller on the forum but he has been online twice since then and not replied.

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    Sorry to hear that

    My suggestion would be to go formal straight away and let the seller know it's happening right now, if they don't make good. Then raise with with FTO and the AFP and take their lead.

    EDIT: Looks like fair trading don't handle this issue.
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    Sorry to hear that hey!

    When you paid the seller, was it via bank deposit? Do you have any details the police would use to track him?

    If he doesnt respond, go to the police with what you have, they should be able to get him for selling stolen merch...

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    same thing happened to me actually. except i bought it off someone at school, stupidly believing their rubbish story, then unable to get money back (person was in one of the huge asian gangs, raising the issue with police would probably result in me getting stabbed, literally).

    anyway, i tracked down the original owner of the phone through some serious facebook stalking, and he said it was covered by insurance, which sorta made me feel okay about what i did next.

    i posted on a open website about my situation and found someone in the UK who was in the same situation, but found his phone in the back of one of londons black cabs. I found out that IMEI locks are only country specific, so we posted eachother our iphones, and now each have working iphones, jailbroken and ultrasn0w'd. it's a long shot, and probably breaks several laws but worked for me.

    so i recommend contacting police etc, but if not, and you trust strangers overseas, then you could have a go with my idea.

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    Thanks for the replies guys.

    Might report it to the police on Monday morning if I don't get a reply from the seller before then. I have his full name and bank account details. No more than that though. Hopefully he replies so I don't have to take it further.

    On a side note, how does one go about getting rid of it? I don't really need it as I already have an iPod Nano for music, and I'll be getting an iPad for everything else. Can I hand it in to the Police or sell it anywhere? Not sure about the legalities about blocked phones. OR is there anyway I can see if it is stolen or lost and track the original owner down by IMEI number?

    Don't really care about the money lost, well I do, but I have accepted I lost out on it unless the seller resolves this problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NathR32 View Post
    Thanks for the replies guys.

    Might report it to the police on Monday morning if I don't get a reply from the seller before then. I have his full name and bank account details. No more than that though. Hopefully he replies so I don't have to take it further.

    On a side note, how does one go about getting rid of it? I don't really need it as I already have an iPod Nano for music, and I'll be getting an iPad for everything else. Can I hand it in to the Police or sell it anywhere? Not sure about the legalities about blocked phones. OR is there anyway I can see if it is stolen or lost and track the original owner down by IMEI number?

    Don't really care about the money lost, well I do, but I have accepted I lost out on it unless the seller resolves this problem.
    Pretty sure if you take it to an Optus store and hand it to them, and say its a stolen/found phone, they will know the customer contact details from the IMEI number and will let them know that they have hold of their phone, and may even deliver it to them.

    Ollie

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    On a side note, I had my iPhone stolen also, and asked to get the SIM and phone barred, and then eventually got a new SIM and had the SIM unbarred. However through some dodgy story it was recovered (I think the thief felt guilty and found a way to get it handed back to me), and I placed my new SIM in it and it was fully functional. Never had to unblock the phone. Thanks Vodafone.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NathR32 View Post
    On a side note, how does one go about getting rid of it? I don't really need it as I already have an iPod Nano for music, and I'll be getting an iPad for everything else. Can I hand it in to the Police or sell it anywhere? Not sure about the legalities about blocked phones. OR is there anyway I can see if it is stolen or lost and track the original owner down by IMEI number?
    I would hand it over to the Police. At the very least ask them what you should do. If it is stolen, the Police can track the owner down and return it to them.

    Selling potentially stolen goods can get you into trouble.

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    yes, i certainly wouldnt on-sell it, even if you where disclosing to the buyer its "issues".

    rollsrox's idea seems like something worth investigating if the police avenue doesnt take off...?

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    Yeah I wouldn't be comfortable selling it, even if it was just destined to mp3 duties.

    rollsrox idea is good in theory but I really don't have enough energy to swap with someone overseas to get around the country specific locks.

    Might hand it into an Optus store in hope it goes back to the original owner if it was lost or stolen.

    One last thought was getting it replaced at the Apple Store? I assume I could get it replaced under their Out Of Warranty service, as I have taken water damaged or screen damaged iPhones there before and paid $250 to get a replacement. I still need a phone so it might be an option, not sure if they check IMEI though.

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    Your above option could work but it's probably illegal. Shame to hear about what happened, did you receive headphone etc because it may be possible to sell/give those off. Good Luck getting some sort of benefit out of it

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    Yeah I dunno about the legalities of the OOW replacement...I'll be in Sydney on Sunday so it will be convenient of it would work.

    No headphones, just the phone and the USB cable. If the replacement fails, I'll just take it to an Optus store.

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    wouldnt you need a reason to replace it?

    my suggestion would be you smash the screen prior to taking it in if you do.

    and no. no IMEI checking, just maybe dont have a sim in it at the time ;]

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    Quote Originally Posted by mallo View Post
    wouldnt you need a reason to replace it?

    my suggestion would be you smash the screen prior to taking it in if you do.

    and no. no IMEI checking, just maybe dont have a sim in it at the time ;]
    Yeah, I was thinking about smashed screen or water damage. Yeah I thought they didnt check the IMEI.

    Oh well I'll have a think about it some more.

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    I'd DEFINITELY talk to Optus and the Cops before trying a trade-in at Apple.

    I'm sure sooner or later if you went the trade-in, they'd check it out... if not when you do the trade, then when it gets back for investigation towards being repaired...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmichobo View Post
    I'd DEFINITELY talk to Optus and the Cops before trying a trade-in at Apple.

    I'm sure sooner or later if you went the trade-in, they'd check it out... if not when you do the trade, then when it gets back for investigation towards being repaired...
    With all due respect, i'm willing to bet you're wrong.

    My minimal education on the matter, has me informed that the returns get shipped back to asia somewhere, the pull them apart, work out whats still good, and then put the good parts from various phones back together to make a refurb, or, just replace the broken part.

    I'd be pretty certain, as part of that process the phone gets a new IMEI, and maybe even UUID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NathR32 View Post
    Yeah I dunno about the legalities of the OOW replacement...I'll be in Sydney on Sunday so it will be convenient of it would work.
    Apple will have the old phone (including IMEI) and all the paperwork that shows you came in and swapped it though. So if they ever do check, they'll know you swapped it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NathR32 View Post
    Thanks for the replies guys.

    Might report it to the police on Monday morning if I don't get a reply from the seller before then. I have his full name and bank account details. No more than that though. Hopefully he replies so I don't have to take it further.

    On a side note, how does one go about getting rid of it? I don't really need it as I already have an iPod Nano for music, and I'll be getting an iPad for everything else. Can I hand it in to the Police or sell it anywhere? Not sure about the legalities about blocked phones. OR is there anyway I can see if it is stolen or lost and track the original owner down by IMEI number?

    Don't really care about the money lost, well I do, but I have accepted I lost out on it unless the seller resolves this problem.
    On that question, AMTA say that the police will be able to access all attempts to register the IMEI so they and the phone company will have the information of the original owner if I read it correctly, along with any other attempts to register it.

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    Default stolen iphone 879230253NQ

    Someone who i thought was a friend lead me to believe my iphone could be fixed eventhough it wasnt broken and told me he could get it to work for tmobile.. well I guess he did then sold the phone .. is there anything you can do to report a stolen iphone? The phone was still under warranty if anything I would have sold it myself if I could not use it.... want to file a police report but individual said his roomate that wasn't even there will vouch that he paid for the phone from me.. I have the apple care in my name which Im getting refunded for.. I see all this about blocking the phone.. the unfortunate thing is I have tmobile so cant report it to at and t since I was using it as an ipod touch and looking into having it unlocked for tmobile.. is there anything I can do?

    iphone: 879230253NQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by azredhangel View Post
    is there anything I can do?
    Do you have the IMEI number? I believe it is printed on the box.

    If you do, report it to the phone company and the police. They will block it and the phone will be useless. This won't bring it back but it will stop someone else from using your phone.

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