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    Default Parallels 4.0 Released

    Parallels 4.0 released... Windows on Mac and Mac Virtualization: Parallels Desktop for Mac

    Not sure how much faster it will be, although it claims to be 50% faster... might download a trail, not sure if the $39.99 upgrade is worth it yet... the rate parallels goes its probably best to just wait for v5.0.

    Something which bugs me is the logo. I know it sounds petty but i like nice logos on my dock and apps... looking at the screen shots the 2 bar logo looks... well crap! I liked the old gold/orange loop logo.

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    Interesting.. *sticks to vmware fusion* I'll still give it a red hot aussie go though. but yeah, im not swapping back to parallels for anything..

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    Err what is this ability to run multiple Mac OS's using this?

    Or have I been hiding under a log for too long?

    Is this something that vmware fusion already did?

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    *Hears the cheers of the two people who still haven't migrated to Fusion*
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    i don't have any issues with Parallels. Maybe I'm not using it for gaming or something but I've never had any issues with it. Vmware on the other hand I did have issues with. I'll try out the trial and see how it works.

    BTW, if you download and test a trial of Parallels, you can win a macbook.

    Parallels Desktop 4.0 for Mac Contest

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    People shouldn't go so hard against Paralells, to be honest. But I too am sticking with VMWare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissionMan View Post
    BTW, if you download and test a trial of Parallels, you can win a macbook.

    Parallels Desktop 4.0 for Mac Contest
    Does that apply for us here in Oz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SyncMan View Post
    Does that apply for us here in Oz?
    Doubtful, competitions are rarely international because of the legal requirements

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    I didn't see anything in the terms and conditions which said only USA but maybe I didn't check hard enough because I just glanced over them.

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    I'm just annoyed its a paid upgrade. 50% almost but still...

    Then again, until they stop bundling MacFUSE with it I'll just ignore Windows as best as I can. Everytime, without fail - Parallels + MacFUSE = Kernel Panic!

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    Interesting...I've been using Parallels for about 6 months now (on my imac - mainly for CAD) without any problems at all... and was going to try VMWare on my MBP just to see how it was... but now Parallels 4 is out, i'm not really sure whether to start using VMWare... like quite a few of you guys do. No doubt we will see a few reviews soon comparing the new Parallels to VMWare...will wait for them. A lot of people have said this update brings it on par with the current VMWare... but to me that sounds like it's fallen behind a bit, as im sure VMWare will have a update out within the next quarter.

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    Seriously, why is Fusion better than Parallels?
    I want some honest facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffmiester View Post
    Seriously, why is Fusion better than Parallels?
    I want some honest facts.
    Ok....

    - The UI of Fusion actually has some thought put into it

    - Fusion doesn't make your whole computer stop responding for 3-10 seconds every time you open a VM

    - Fusion doesn't crash (at least it hasn't for me)

    - You can see VM settings while the VM is running (the UI of Parallels is so half-baked that you can't even see the settings. I don't want to change them, I just want to see them. But no. You have to shut down the VM to manage that.)

    - Hours of my life have been spent trying to work out obscure crashing bugs with Parallels, and I helped out with beta testing to try and fix them. Then I tried Fusion, and I haven't had to spend a minute beta testing, complaining on their forums or even reporting bugs, because I haven't found one. Not one.

    - Fusion is faster. It doesn't just randomly freeze up for a second or two like PD does (or used to when I last used it 12 months or so ago).

    - Parallels had an annoying tendency to "steal" the keyboard. You'd type something in, and a bug in the Parallels keyboard hi-jack kext meant that your keyboard wouldn't work unless you activated PD then quit again.

    - I had a few mysterious networking problems that disappeared when I completely uninstalled PD.

    - VMWare's hypervisor is mature. They've been working on it for years. Those years of development and ironing out of bugs is part of the reason that Fusion is both fast and stable.
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    Is this a New clause?
    Are they trying to score more money out of you?

    Extended download for 12 month(s)

    An additional AUD 11.35 will be added to the product price for this option.

    If you purchase the "Extended Download" service, you can download the electronic product version up to 12 month(s) after receipt of your payment by going to "My account" in the Customer Care Center. Please notice that this service is not an extension of your original product and does not give you access to any additional licenses for the original product. However, this does not entitle you to download updates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forgie View Post
    Ok....

    - The UI of Fusion actually has some thought put into it

    - Fusion doesn't make your whole computer stop responding for 3-10 seconds every time you open a VM

    - Fusion doesn't crash (at least it hasn't for me)

    - You can see VM settings while the VM is running (the UI of Parallels is so half-baked that you can't even see the settings. I don't want to change them, I just want to see them. But no. You have to shut down the VM to manage that.)

    - Hours of my life have been spent trying to work out obscure crashing bugs with Parallels, and I helped out with beta testing to try and fix them. Then I tried Fusion, and I haven't had to spend a minute beta testing, complaining on their forums or even reporting bugs, because I haven't found one. Not one.

    - Fusion is faster. It doesn't just randomly freeze up for a second or two like PD does (or used to when I last used it 12 months or so ago).

    - Parallels had an annoying tendency to "steal" the keyboard. You'd type something in, and a bug in the Parallels keyboard hi-jack kext meant that your keyboard wouldn't work unless you activated PD then quit again.

    - I had a few mysterious networking problems that disappeared when I completely uninstalled PD.
    All largely due to the fact that VMWare have been in the virtualisation game for a hell of a lot longer than Parallels has - and it shows!

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffmiester View Post
    Is this a New clause?
    Are they trying to score more money out of you?
    Yep, as far as I could tell, that's what you might call deceptive.... some might call it fraud. Charging for something that you can already get for free....
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    Quote Originally Posted by forgie View Post
    Ok....

    1 The UI of Fusion actually has some thought put into it

    2 Fusion doesn't make your whole computer stop responding for 3-10 seconds every time you open a VM

    3 Fusion doesn't crash (at least it hasn't for me)

    4 You can see VM settings while the VM is running (the UI of Parallels is so half-baked that you can't even see the settings. I don't want to change them, I just want to see them. But no. You have to shut down the VM to manage that.)

    5 Hours of my life have been spent trying to work out obscure crashing bugs with Parallels, and I helped out with beta testing to try and fix them. Then I tried Fusion, and I haven't had to spend a minute beta testing, complaining on their forums or even reporting bugs, because I haven't found one. Not one.

    6 Fusion is faster. It doesn't just randomly freeze up for a second or two like PD does (or used to when I last used it 12 months or so ago).

    7 Parallels had an annoying tendency to "steal" the keyboard. You'd type something in, and a bug in the Parallels keyboard hi-jack kext meant that your keyboard wouldn't work unless you activated PD then quit again.

    8 I had a few mysterious networking problems that disappeared when I completely uninstalled PD.

    9 VMWare's hypervisor is mature. They've been working on it for years. Those years of development and ironing out of bugs is part of the reason that Fusion is both fast and stable.
    1. Arguable. I prefer parallels, and the version 4 looks much better, better than vmware as far as I am concerned.
    2. Not a problem I have experienced.
    3. VMware doesn't crash? I experienced a number of crashes when I trialed it. Its one of the reasons I got parallels. Different experiences from different users.
    4. Never had an issue with having to look at settings of VM's while I am in the VM but it is available in Parallels ver 4 if its really that important.
    5. Confused - you were part of beta testing and were confused when you experienced bugs? Why? Isn't that what beta testing is for? It also depends on the level of beta testing, some companies release products to different sets of people for different levels of beta testing.
    6. Again, never been an issue, but I suspect both companies were always going to optimise their products over a period of time.
    7. Never had the issue
    8. Haven't experienced any network problems with my parallels.
    9. Most mature doesn't always mean the best or windows mobile would be better than the iphone OS and we all know what most people think of that concept.


    Quote Originally Posted by forgie View Post
    Yep, as far as I could tell, that's what you might call deceptive.... some might call it fraud. Charging for something that you can already get for free....
    At least 50% of the sites I've been to in the last year have done this. Its not unique. I'm not defending the practice, just saying that its not unique to Parallels.

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    im going to get 4.0 then skip 5.0 and get 6.0 I skipped 3.0 alredi


 

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