Originally Posted by Oldmacs

Does anyone think that there will be anyway to hack mountain lion onto ...

I haven't had a good read, but have missed the part which lists the requirements (or expectations)? Can someone point me towards that list?

edit: Suppose I should also install 10.7.3 update now so I can play with iMessages on the Mac!

OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion System Requirements

Basically just about anything that can't boot into EFI64 is out. Either way, I suspect that that the Hackintosh community or someone else will probably come up with a solution. However that doesn't change the fact that it seems ML is going to want a machine with better graphics than what the unsupported machines have, and as such even if you do get it going, performance might suffer.

I don't really care if it runs slow up until mid last year I was using an emac 2004 with leopard! I think i read somewhere that they had been able to get mountain lion running on intel integrated graphics.

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i found it on mac rumours:OS X Mountain Lion Drops Support for Many 2006-2008 Macs with Integrated Graphics
Thursday February 16, 2012 11:25 am PST by Eric Slivka
Cult of Mac points to a report from French site MacGeneration highlighting the system requirements for OS X Mountain Lion. Among those Macs currently compatible with OS X Lion, those with lower-end Intel GMA X3100 or GMA 950 integrated graphics will not be able to upgrade to Mountain Lion:
- Any Intel Core 2 Duo MacBook from late 2007 – late 2008 (Model Numbers: MB061*/B, MB062*/B, MB063*/B, MB402*/A MB403*/A MB404*/A, MB402*/B)

- The Mid-2007 Mac mini (Model Numbers: MB138*/A, MB139*/A)

- Late 2006 polycarbonate iMac (Model Number: MA710xx/A)

- The original early 2008 MacBook Air (Model Number: MB003LL/A)
Users of those older systems may still receive a few of Mountain Lion's enhancements such as with Apple's Safari 5.2 for Lion, but the vast majority of improvements will require a new machine with higher specs.

Update: At least one developer tells us he has been able to install Mountain Lion on a Late 2006 iMac and MacBook Pro without problems. So, the developer builds do not seem to enforce these restrictions.

Update 2: Systems using ATI's Radeon X1600 graphics will also be incompatible with OS X Mountain Lion.

I would suspect apple is using a limited set of hardware for earlier developer releases. It is likely to work on a wider range closer to full release. At least it's a theory.

It's great to be able to watch the OS develop and play with the new features but it just gets far too unresponsive and buggy for the first few developer previews. Think I'll stick with Lion for now.

Originally Posted by simonm

They can't afford the $30 for Lion in the meantime? It's still 6 months away probably...

US summer, meaning June/July usually. Going by the Lion release I'm thinking mid July.

As for waiting, 10.6 is perfectly fine and not broken. I was going to upgrade the Mrs computer from 10.6 (I bought the family upgrade when Lion came out and have yet to do it) but I might just wait until ML now.

With yearly releases I suspect we'll see a lot more people skipping every other release, even if it is $30 a year to keep up to date.

Just a heads up for people, Parallels 7 and VMWare Fusion 4 don't currently run on Mountain Lion.

Originally Posted by simonm

They can't afford the $30 for Lion in the meantime? ...

*IMO* $30 is a small price to pay for quality updates. Compare that to windows where an upgrade DVD can run in a couple of hundreds.

I can't wait! looks awesome, I am a real fan of the app store and love how everything is starting to look the same on all platforms :-)

I agree keddi

I love the fact that you can pickup (or now sit down in front of) any of you devices and continue where you left off seamlessly!

Originally Posted by Pharaohsam

I agree keddi

I love the fact that you can pickup (or now sit down in front of) any of you devices and continue where you left off seamlessly!

Unless you are on a 3GS. That is not happening for me. Post in messages are just that, and posts in imessage. All separate

[edit] Troubleshooting Messages Beta tells me that my apple ID has to be the same on all devices. I had not actually "signed in" with my appleID in iMessage, didnt even realise I had to, because my phone was sending messages just fine. I wonder how setting the email as the "CallerID" affects conversations with people who do not have a mac desktop, and so will never have messages.

[edit #2] and to add insult to injury, I have discovered that using imessage and messages means that, like it or not, my itunes login must also be the same. The me.com account has never been used to log in to itunes. Ive been using that old mac.com address since 2005. Now, Apple says if I want to use messages (and I do want to) I must use me.com as my AppleID...EVERYWHERE. Seriously pissed off about a) not being able to resurrect that old ID to use as a complete appleID, b) not being able to transfer purchases made on the old ID to the new one, and c) now finding that the credit I have left in the old ID itunes account CAN NOT be moved to the new ID. Way to go, Apple

[edit #4] The knowledgebase article was wrong in one respect. I did not have to set the iMessage "callerID" to my AppleID at all. Just the phone number. I've reset it and now have synchronicity.*

I do hope all my rambling today will be of assistance to anyone else who may have struggled with that.

Originally Posted by kyte

Must you shout?

and learn to speak properly, not broken english