have 10.3.9 need 10.4 then 10.5.......help

**vegietableman** · 8th February 2012, 02:41 PM

Hi all new here but lurked a while......
i have tried the search function but have failed to find the info i require, as a noob here i expect a certain amount of flaming for my seemingly silly Q'n but...... i will bite bacK

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i have bought a g4 running 10.3.9 which after being on the phone (1-2hrs) with bigpond have told me that they support 10.5 min.

can i jump to 10.5? or do i need to step ......10.4.....10.5? If so how can i do it cheaply (obviously as i bought a second hand g4) sexy as hell but looks like i will need upgrade bits and peices

thankyou Luke

**lostom** · 8th February 2012, 03:02 PM

Welcome, can't you just do software update (free).?

Don't see why there should be any problems.
About the Mac OS X 10.3.9 Update (Delta)

**vegietableman** · 8th February 2012, 03:10 PM

nah...... spent time on the phone to mac and the answer is i have to pay.......... unless the mass tech here can supply me......

thanks for the link though have gotten one step closer to 2012

if someone out there has a 10.4 tiger disk thingy(you know what i mean) they no longer need, i am happy to pay postage. in sydney.

**DeKa** · 8th February 2012, 05:38 PM

What hardware from Bigpond are you using? If it is a WiFi or Ethernet modem, you can use any OS you like.
If you are using a USB ADSL modem (terrible idea whatever OS you run), tell Bigpond to send you a new WiFi ADSL modem.
If you are using a USB 3G stick, buy Telstra's WiFi / 3G modem which is called Telstra Elite WiFi Modem.
Pre-Paid Mobile Broadband - Get Started - Telstra and put your SIM in that. Then you connect to it via WiFi from your older Mac.

**soulman** · 8th February 2012, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by vegietableman

can i jump to 10.5? or do i need to step ......10.4.....10.5? If so how can i do it cheaply

You may not need to upgrade past 10.3.9, as per DeKa's post, but if you do you can go straight to 10.5 from 10.3 and the cheapest way to do that legitimately would be to find a second-hand copy of a 10.5 retail disk. You shouldn't have to pay much for it - $20-30 I imagine.

**leon** · 8th February 2012, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by soulman

You may not need to upgrade past 10.3.9, as per DeKa's post, but if you do you can go straight to 10.5 from 10.3 and the cheapest way to do that legitimately would be to find a second-hand copy of a 10.5 retail disk. You shouldn't have to pay much for it - $20-30 I imagine.

10.5 retail is around the $60+ region now. Maybe you have a friend who can "lend" you a disk.

**vegietableman** · 8th February 2012, 07:05 PM

we have a ethernet connectiopn as we are in the blue mountains....... we run wireless for my wifes laptop (mac book pro luck girl) but the rest of us have to use the tower.

Leon a friend like that would be a friend indeed....but i have no such friend.... anyone out there know a friend like that.

also leon i have trawled the interwebz for cheap 10.5(lion by name?) where would be the best place if a friend could not be located?

One last question my mac runs at 400mHz is that gonna comply with 10.5 or do i need to ask more silly noob tech Q's....

thankyou all agian.

**soulman** · 8th February 2012, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by vegietableman

One last question my mac runs at 400mHz is that gonna comply with 10.5 or do i need to ask more silly noob tech Q's....

The last 400Mhz G4 was called the PowerMac G4 (Gigabit Ethernet) and it, like the other 400Mhz models before it, will only go up to 10.4.11. This is according to MacTracker, a very useful free app which gives full specs on all Macs & iDevices. There may be a way to hack it to get it to accept 10.5 - I don't know.

Perhaps you might want to explore the options that don't require a system software upgrade. 10.3 is perfectly good & 10.4 is too if you can find a copy cheap enough.

**justincraggs** · 8th February 2012, 09:08 PM

What are you actually trying to achieve or what problem are you having? If you can get bigpond to set your account up via the MacBook it should be fairly easy to get the G4 up and running with a bit of help from the forum

**vegietableman** · 8th February 2012, 09:22 PM

i went through the usual with telstra .......time ,time,time, and then they worked out that i had a mac. i was transfered then i was told that i needed 10.5 or bigpond didnt support anything less....... the mac book pro that my wife uses the same internet but wireless.
if the forum could help i would much appriciate it.

the ppp0e seems to be the problem.... wtf does that mean i am not sure.

**harryb2448** · 9th February 2012, 08:44 AM

In short maybe the encryption is WPA2 Personal or similar and the G4 is simply too old and too slow for that and it will run Leopard (OSX.5) woefully slow. Native install calls for an 867MHz processor minimum.

**Byrd** · 9th February 2012, 08:48 AM

Hi vegietableman,

sadly your 400Mhz G4 tower is not going to run 10.5; the specifications of your Mac are well under what is required (it needs an 867Mhz + G4, 1GB+ RAM, bigger HD and decent graphics card). With 768MB+ RAM, OS X 10.4.11 is your best bet and can run a browser such as TenFourFox, a recent version of Firefox for PPC Macs.

You could share your internet connection from your wife's Macbook to the G4, by either wireless or ethernet cable. With some stuffing around, you might be able to get the Bigpond connection working on your G4, the networking features have not changed a great deal from 10.3 - 10.5 (wired connection that is, wireless features have changed). As you've discovered it is similar but not quite the same, and Bigpond refuse to help for technical support reasons, so it is DIY or nothing

JB

**Lachlanit** · 12th February 2012, 06:16 PM

Greetings fellow Blue Mountains resident

You say you have Ethernet in your house? Can you perhaps describe a little clearer as to how it is setup? Do you have your phone line going into your Modem, which you then connect your computers to via Ethernet cable? And your wife's Macbook connects via wireless? If that is the case then I see no reason why you would need to upgrade your version of OS X.

If however your Modem connects to your G4 via USB cable then you may need to employ one of the sollutions mentioned earlier in the thread. I am not too familiar with the Telstra Modem you have but I know some allow the option to connect via USB or Ethernet.

Either way, if you are intending to connect to your Modem via Ethernet cable, it really shouldn't matter what operating system you are using.

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